Well I listened to alot of what has been said on here about not just exclusively going to see my CF when she isn't wanting to do OTC. So I have still been getting dances from my CF because her dances are great but haven't been getting nearly as many as I used to. I have started talking to a past CF again and spending a little time with her ITC. I have also gotten 2 other phone numbers. One of these women is so sweet and kind and just alot of fun to talk to and hang with. The problem is she has a BF so doesn't want to do OTC. My CF started sending me questions asking about certain people and everything and there seems to be alot of drama starting to happen now and I feel like all the women are going to talk (because they all know each other) and that they are all going to tell lies on me and then none of them will talk to me. I already have one of them that I think somebody told her a lie about me because she acted totally different the last time I saw her like she was mad at me. I don't go to clubs like some of you where there are like 50 different women to choose from. Where I am there aren't that many quality choices and I have most of them involved in this current drama. The threads that have been shared on here from SW makes me think I am in a bad situation because all of them may ignore me now because they believe each others lies instead of coming to ask me if something is true.
This a legitimate question.. How old are you ? (Please answer as it may explain your psychological stage in life)
Now, the only thing strippers generally care about are Benjamins -- they will believe all sorta dumb shut about you, as long as you have cash you're king and someone is going to pay attention.
Secondly, those strippers don't give a shot about you outside of trying to drain your cash. It's amazing that you're taking shit like their universe somehow includes you.
Play it "cool" admit that they can talk all they want you're going to be able to throw your cash at them anyway.
And you're a customer and only a customer they don't like you as a person, so get over that notion.
Last question. ..are you a troll? And us your other user name Bavarian?
You are treating the situation as if you were in damn high school and these chicks were upstanding church girls – damn you made my blood pressure rise.
As GACA and every one else w/ some sense will tell you – IT'S ALL ABOUT THE $$$.
There is NOTHING wrong w/ what you are trying to do – they are the ones taking their clothes for $$$ and you let them make you think like you are the one that is some kind of deviant – what the fuck.
You have 2 choices:
1) drop the OTC thing if this club is so conservative that they will black-ball you and you have a problem with that
2) go after what you want; and decent chance yourself find someone; these chicks are about $$$; and some feel more comfortable being more open
BTW – what is it that you want OTC – sex or just GFE/date – you don't need to answer if you do not feel like it.
You may want to consider TheEroticReview.com and find someone more outgoing there.
It's bad enough that in society in general most men have to take shit from women for being and acting like men; but to also take shit in the SC when you are paying is too much pussyfication.
I have seen this before. Trust me I understand but it is better to find out sooner than later who is just playing games with you and stringing you on and who is serious about doing OTC. I have had to go find new CF's and also become a free agent because they lose respect for you if you are too good to them and too reliable....they start taking you for granted and using you. When you stand up and show them you aren't going to take it anymore....then it makes them have to make a decision on if they are willing to lose a regular who like me is probably 20-25% of my CF's weekly income.
As was mentioned earlier; if your club is too conservative or you don't yet have the skillz to be able to navigate the often treacherous SC waters; you may want to look at a good escort at least for now – once you are getting some good pussy you may stop being one - LOL; I'm just busting your balls – but really – once you are not as hard-up and you have other options; you may be able to deal with the strippers better and not be jerked around so easily.
If you have the funds and the time; join us in Detroit for our meet so you can be schooled Detroit style.
"It's bad enough that in society in general most men have to take shit from women for being and acting like men; but to also take shit in the SC when you are paying is too much pussyfication." Well said.
Coolguy, it sounds like you've made yourself chum and all of these strippers are sharks. It's time for you to get out of the water, clean yourself off, and find another ocean to swim in.
coolguy - You are getting schooled by some of the best mongers around. They are getting on you, but what they say is spot on. Take it to heart.
You seem like a nice guy. A guy who when you have a civilian gf treat her well and respectfully. The SC game is much different. You can still be respectful and not an asshole, but you also can't worry about what they think of you. Because they don't think about you. They think about how they can separate you from your cash. It's a hustle. What you have to focus on is spending your money for what you want. If they are not providing it, move on.
It's your money, spend it how you see fit. The nice thing about strip clubs is if you don't like what you see tonight, come back another night there will be other dancers to choose from. Don't settle for sub par service just because you have some titties in your face. We all have had trips where we walked out with more money then we intended because the talent or service didn't meet our expectations.
^^^ Agreed. Don't let the dancers make you believe it's a sellers' market; it isn't. We're the ones with the cash, we're the ones shopping, so remember it's a buyers' market. (Well, at least try to get your dancer to believe that, okay?)
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Now, the only thing strippers generally care about are Benjamins -- they will believe all sorta dumb shut about you, as long as you have cash you're king and someone is going to pay attention.
Secondly, those strippers don't give a shot about you outside of trying to drain your cash. It's amazing that you're taking shit like their universe somehow includes you.
Play it "cool" admit that they can talk all they want you're going to be able to throw your cash at them anyway.
And you're a customer and only a customer they don't like you as a person, so get over that notion.
Last question. ..are you a troll? And us your other user name Bavarian?
As GACA and every one else w/ some sense will tell you – IT'S ALL ABOUT THE $$$.
There is NOTHING wrong w/ what you are trying to do – they are the ones taking their clothes for $$$ and you let them make you think like you are the one that is some kind of deviant – what the fuck.
You have 2 choices:
1) drop the OTC thing if this club is so conservative that they will black-ball you and you have a problem with that
2) go after what you want; and decent chance yourself find someone; these chicks are about $$$; and some feel more comfortable being more open
BTW – what is it that you want OTC – sex or just GFE/date – you don't need to answer if you do not feel like it.
You may want to consider TheEroticReview.com and find someone more outgoing there.
As was mentioned earlier; if your club is too conservative or you don't yet have the skillz to be able to navigate the often treacherous SC waters; you may want to look at a good escort at least for now – once you are getting some good pussy you may stop being one - LOL; I'm just busting your balls – but really – once you are not as hard-up and you have other options; you may be able to deal with the strippers better and not be jerked around so easily.
If you have the funds and the time; join us in Detroit for our meet so you can be schooled Detroit style.
You seem like a nice guy. A guy who when you have a civilian gf treat her well and respectfully. The SC game is much different. You can still be respectful and not an asshole, but you also can't worry about what they think of you. Because they don't think about you. They think about how they can separate you from your cash. It's a hustle. What you have to focus on is spending your money for what you want. If they are not providing it, move on.
It's your money, spend it how you see fit. The nice thing about strip clubs is if you don't like what you see tonight, come back another night there will be other dancers to choose from. Don't settle for sub par service just because you have some titties in your face. We all have had trips where we walked out with more money then we intended because the talent or service didn't meet our expectations.