To tip or not to tip ... that is the question

How interested am I in playing with her again?

If I honestly felt like it wasn't her, it was me, I'd probably throw her a little something extra. But the main reason to tip is to make her enthusiastic about doing it again.

^^^agreed

Sounds like she made a good-faith effort. No sense in penalizing her for something completely out of her control.

Just go with your gut instinct. If you want her to remember you, a tip is always good

I always over tip.It separates the wheat from the chaff.Lovedart and I never wait in line.

James is right, reinforce the behavior you want repeated with a tip. In this case....no tip for you.

If she put in the effort, she deserves the tip.

Except in cheap (ie $10) dance places, I rarely tip after a lap dance. Instead, if I like the girl I just get lots of dances with her. I will also tip her well on stage and buy her food/drink. Only the worst ROB complains and expects a dance tip in addition to everything else I do for her.

I only tip for *extraordinary* service. For just really good service, I don't tip, but will show my appreciation by buying more dances. Above-and-beyond gets tips. But based on the description in the original post, I can't really tell what's being asked. Of all places, why choose here to be coy?

Do you mean that you agreed on a regular VIP dance (whatever that costs -- say, $100). She went in there and tried as hard as she could to get you off. But you didn't get it up, or you didn't cum. Should you tip her on top of the $100? Well, if in the club you go to, playing iwth the titties, FIV, etc., constitutes above-and-beyond service, then yes, I'd tip her something. If it's par for the course, then no.

Do you mean you agreed to an overall price -- $100 VIP + $50 "tip" for a HJ -- and she tried as hard as she could, but you didn't get off, should you still pay the $150? Yes, of course, you made an agreement, it's not her fault you couldn't come through, as it were.

I tip for performance, not results. Why should I stiff a dancer because I myself wasn't stiff? Luckily, due to modern medicine, that doesn't happen to me any more.

Like Johnsmith and Subraman, I show my appreciation by buying more dances.

Subraman - I didn't think I was being coy. I was trying to be straightforward I had a nice VIP session yesterday with a hot Asian girl (clubber would have loved her) and as I was driving home this scenario popped into my head. Thought I would put it out to the brethren to see what you guys would do.
If she didn't work hard and didn't deliver on what she said she would do or allow, no tip. If it was just that I didn't get off despite her best efforts and everything was on the up and up, I would give the tip.

The reading comprehension of a couple of you guys suck. The OP is not referring to ordinary lap dances.

I always tip. Keep the hoes happy and they usually treat you a little better. Its not their fault you didn't cum if she really was trying but my goal usually isn't to get off unless she's fucking or sucking. Do you go to a restaurant and not tip if you didn't finish the meal? They still cooked it and brought it out right?

rh: I'm willing to assume that I'm the one being dense... the way I understand what you wrote, the answer seems so straightforward, that I'm thinking I don't understand what you wrote -- maybe just because things work differently at strip clubs in our areas.

You wrote: " You've negotiated the price and services". So I assume that means you've negotiated, say, $200 for a BJ (just an example). She tries as hard as she can, but you don't get off. Are you asking if you should pay the $200, even though you didn't get off? Yes, of course -- although I'd consider that just a pre-negotiated fee, not a tip. Are you asking if you should tip on top of that $200? Nothing in your description sounds above-and-beyond, so no.

Am I mis-reading this?

Shadowcat, remember this board is 85% trolls and retards...

Maybe the misunderstanding comes from "play with her titties, FIV, and/or do other fun stuff". That's pretty routine dance mileage IME, and that alone never makes me cum, so I don't usually tip for it.

However, if I read the question as whether to tip for service that normally produces a HE, the answer is obviously yes. She's not responsible for your dysfunction. Tip her.

Not my dysfunction, just a scenario. Lol.

Subraman - I understand what you're saying now. This would be the additional money you pay on top of the price for dances for additional services (hj, bj, fs) in VIP.

Obviously what everyone can get away with in regular lappers differs depending on the club.

This exact situation has happened to me a couple of times: We have agreed to an amount (say $150) for some time and service in the VIP room and, for whatever reason (usually because I got greedy and wanted a second pop in the same day), I don't "cross the finish line". Instead of tipping $50-100 (depending on the dancer), I'll still tip $20-30, especially if this is a one-time "failure" and I expect future happiness from that same dancer. If I don't get off despite her best efforts, she shouldn't be penalized.

If the dancer and I agree to $X for Y services; then that is what I pay.

IMO one should not feel an obligation to tip – I like to tip when I feel the dancer has gone above and beyond or perhaps the amount agreed upon was a big low or in the middle of the acceptable range for the service(s) – i.e. if I paid $150 for FS but she really went out of her way to please me; I may tip an extra $50; but if I'm in an upscale club and paying $300+ for FS; I don't feel as big a need to tip and usually won't but depends on the circumstances.

I try to use a variation of the Golden Rule – i.e. if a dancer takes care of me I often feel obliged to take care of her; within reason.

In my case it depends on the price, her performance and whether I plan on seeing her again. For high priced dances, I tip little or nothing, regardless of how well she did. For reasonably priced dances, I'll tip her based on her performance, and not whether she necessarily got me off. If it's known that giving a good tip gives you a better dance, as long as she made a good effort I'll tip her, but I will only tip her what she requested, if she actually succeeds then I may tip her higher than what we negotiated.

If I like a dancer I usually get 2+ dances from her rather than tip. Almost always, both the dancer and myself are much more happy with that than 1 dance and a tip.

If she did her best and it just didn't happen, tip her for her effort.