How to best meet outside a club, so to assure safety of both?
drpenn
Texas
My plans are the following:
-Get a legitimate hotel room and register under my true name. This should discourage any criminal intent and show no criminal intent on my part.
-Get her true name or name that she would have on an ID.
-Include her name on the hotel registration a provide a key.
-Arrive at the hotel earlier than she arrive and get settled.
-Have her come up to the room or call from registration so I know of her arrival.
-Make sure she is alone when she arrives at the room.
-She has seen my ID, so she knows my name and has the upper hand with regards to knowledge. She should therefore comply to level this.
If she is unwilling to go with this plan and provide her name, then:
-The same as above, but she must call and I will meet her in the lobby prior to going to the room.
-By this means, no one outside of me has the room number.
As far as hotels go, the first plan is no big deal; I have spent plenty of nights with two people arriving at separate times with different surnames and separate keys, specifically, my significant other and I. I want to meet this dancer though because she is so sexy and has agreed to indulge some kinky yet legal activity with me. The second plan seems safer, but more troublesome and less trusting.
Other suggestions and/or critique of the above plans are welcomed.
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I went to the trouble to post coherently and you get your jollies by one-liners.
I am rather more adventurous than you might imagine.
Walked cliffs at night, skydived, and white water rafted.
None of that was with relative strangers who might want to conceal their identities.
Maybe I have more to lose than most if something went amiss, so yes, I will not be careless.
Whatever, I am not stooping to your level.
How about members here try to be intelligent rather than behaving lowbrow as is presumed of partakers of the entertainment discussed here?
dr, what the hell are you so afraid of? do you have reason to think she has a pimp? If so stay away. If not just meet and fuck. It's not hard.
And demanding her full name is fucking nuts. You will scare every stripper and escort away with that shit. You should not have given her your real full name but too late for that now.
If I were doing this I would have arranged to take her to dinner at a nice restaurant. Then I would have taken her back to the hotel and fucked her. Then after she swallows I would pay her. That's what I'm doing tonight
You're making it 10,000 times harder than it needs to be.
I think you have everything covered. I always make sure when I set up a rendezvous to let the stripper have a room key. That way she can have her thug boyfriend come in unannounced, hit me over the head and rob me.
First off, while there many places that don't require a credit card, I've never heard of a decent hotel or motel that will let you stay without having ID. So using your "true name" to register is probably going to happen whether you want it to or not. Unless you have access to someone with exceptional skill at forgery.
Second, I also agree that demanding, even with a fallback, her real name before she's swallowed even one kid of your jizz is probably contraindicated. The facade of anonymity that using their stage name gives to some of these women actually makes it easier for them to meet OTC. Take that away, even suggest you want to take it away, before she's ready, and you might queer the whole deal. Besides which, I've seen more than a couple of fake IDs in the possession of strippers, so you won't know anyway.
The idea of meeting her in the lobby is a good one, you should do that anyway, whether she gives you her name or not. You should be in the lobby when she arrives, to see if anyone accompanies her. You should also pay attention when you head to the room, to make sure no one follows. And take the stairs, not the elevator. Easier to notice when some is following.
When you get in the room, lock the door and don't let her near it, so she can't let her friend with a baseball bat in. Unless you brought a gun to a bat fight, that is. :)
With the exception of my ATF, after two years of seeing her, I have *never* given one of these girls a key to my room, regardless of how long we were staying.
As an aside, I know it wasn't intentional, but thanks for one of the funniest threads in a while.
I think we've all assumed the former! I don't think the issue is not knowing her identity! I suspect a girl that would hatch the plot of "my boyfriend will beat him up and rob him" won't care if you know her name!
She'll count on you being too embarrassed to call the cops and say "I was meeting Peggy Sue Ricketts in my hotel room but her boyfriend burst in and beat me up and took my money -- what? -- why was I meeting Ms. Ricketts? -- um, well, you see, she agreed to fuck me for $500" ;)
Just grab a room and meet her in the lobby! Don't give her a key! Have fun and stay safe! :)
Much more constructive discussion; thank you for the critical assessment and good ideas.
Don't give her a key, and don't let her stay in the room after you've left! Nothing that requires her to talk to the front desk. And no real names. Keep it simple.
But really, your plan is so alarmingly naive, I think you need to do more research before going ahead with this. Not that it needs to be complicated, but just to get more up to speed. Go back and find some past threads about OTC experiences, good and harrowingly bad. Google the shit out of related topics, and so on. And google this chick's phone number to see if she has sketchy looking escort ads, etc.
In my opinion, your best defense is to just book a nice hotel for your first encounter with her. I have never had a robbery issue with any of the countless strippers I have taken OTC, so I don't think it is common to be honest, but every robbery story that I have read her and elsewhere involved a perp with direct outside access to the door of the victims' rooms. I'm guessing that many perps just aren't interested in walking to and from the scene of the crime past hotel employees in a manned lobby, being recorded on cameras in various places and then enduring a very long trip back to the getaway vehicle after the deed is done.
Now I do also wait in the lobby or even outside the front entrance during a first time meet with a new OTC partner. I have never encountered anything problematic with a stripper when doing this, but I do believe that it saved my bacon once with a backpage girl. That is a story for another time, but suffice it to say that I never again dialed up a girl from BP after that.
If the OP is really concerned about his safety, try going to a hotel with security cameras visible.
Meet in the lobby and make a off the cuff comment about how "this hotel sure does have a lot of surveillance cameras in it..." So that she knows/is aware.
Or, if it's possible in your area, meet at a casino with a casino hotel attached.
Nothing goes on in a casino without it being taped. They have security cameras everywhere...
Just be smart like with anything else.
Some precaution is called for so option two seems like a good compromise.
As others have mentioned; your chances are much greater that you get stood up – you should also clearly outline what you expect and for how much b/f the meet; do not pay in advance and tell her so b/f you arrange the meet; and don't take any valuables w/ you or leave them laying around unattended (i.e. don't leave your wallet and your cash in the room while you go shower or take a whiz).
Your dancer almost certainly knows this, and that may be why she was so flirty with you about OTC. Dancers can sense money combined with inexperience a mile away, and will pounce on you like a lioness on a wounded gazelle. If you don't define the terms, she will, and will then likely ask for more money for every incremental addition to the menu. I agree with the others about the room. Rent it like you would for any other business travel. Don't give her a key. Meet for dinner if you want, or have her text you from the parking lot so you can go down and walk her in. If it's an upscale hotel, and you have to walk in through the lobby, suggest that she not dress like a stripper, but multiple outfits once in the room are always fun! Good luck.
If it wasn't RickyBoy won't have need a system now would he? Unless he's a complete idiot.
I usually forget to do all this and may even forget to ask her last name. I live dangerous.
In my experience, American strippers will only do OTC after dropping decent $$$ multiple times ITC. No ID checks involved though.
Canadian strippers who do OTC will offer it after a couple three dances. Cause people are nice, eh.
Hotels don't care what you're doing. They only care that the people who do care what you're doing don't know what you're doing and don't know that the hotel doesn't care what you're doing.
No need to reveal my education level, that is not pertinent.
Of course I am a newb at this; one post, duh.
Plenty of strip club experience without any trouble inside the club.
I would not expect to read of even a few people having been knocked up the head by strippers' pimps here. I would expect such failures would lead to embarrassment and an unwillingness to share what went wrong. Therefore I asked what works. But rather than being totally helpless, I offered some effort of thought. Can't win here. If I just posted "tell me how to do this?" I would expect everyone to reply UTFSE. Then I try to make an effort, and get some fraction of criticism for being naive or overdoing it or whatever. It's a discussion board. So I started a discussion. Excuse me.
So far the suggestion from her has not involved money or a meet up at the club again. No dollar figures have been discussed or implied. She is smart and putting herself through some education. That could be a line, but so could everything by everyone, including here. Maybe no one here has actually banged or met up with anyone outside as we probably don't encourage even other members to verify claims with eyewitness accounts, but we have some level of trust. But I have not heard from her the usual stuff about kids, or exes, or whining about stuff so many others carry on about. She likes what she does and has a plan. That is comforting on one hand, but then again cause me some caution as a smart opponent (if indeed an opponent) is a more challenging opponent.
I was not about to presume nothing ever goes wrong, and I had a perception that if it does go wrong, it goes really wrong. Some cash lost is no big deal. Every strip club visit is some cash lost. Car or wallet stolen is worse. Physical injury, still worse.
Anyone here actually willing to tell of their carelessness that led to their own injury?
Surely not everyone has had perfect experiences, no lapse in judgement of character, or a botched plan of their own?
As has been mentioned; pretty much most issues revolve around the dancer flaking out or asking for more $$$ if this was not ironed out beforehand.
Just b/c they are dancers does not mean they are hardcore criminals – dancing is legal and most of these girls often have low-education skills and dancing sure beats working @ Walmart and most are just trying to pay the bills – many of these women also have families and children so they too have a lot to lose.
w.r.t. her “education” - could be true – who knows – but any seasoned SCer will tell you dancers claiming to be in school or have degrees bla bla bla is as common a lie as dudes lying about the size of their wiener (and mine is huge of course – I wouldn't lie).
After all, she seemed so genuine. How could all of that have been an act? Why would she lie about something like that? What kind of person plays such cruel games like that? Doesn't she know that I would have stuck around longer if she was just honest with me? Blah, blah, blah.
I was hesitant at first to join this board thinking it would consist of a whole bunch lowlife pervs – but was surprised that many on here are smart; educated, successful dudes/lopaw; with a LOT of SC experience (and general life experience also) – i.e. most of the dudes/lopaw on here are good guys/lady.
Anyone willing to risk meeting a stripper OTC can not afford to be careless. AAMOF it tends to lean heavily the other direction, sometimes towards crippling paranoia for first timers which ultimately has them changing their mind and calling it off.
I would think that any of the long term posters here would be willing to share an embarassiing story, if there is a story to be told.
Most hardcore SCers will either use a burn phone or use a burn-app on their smart phone or get a Google ph # as to not give a stripper one's real ph # - it's a good PL practice.
“AAMOF” (As A Matter Of Fact)
Had to look them up
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+1 John Smith
Dang, he would write about all kinds of secret shit he would do to keep his hobby from his wife.
He must have been a CIA spook in a past life.
Go to 1:50 for the start of the conversation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLAbh_Lc…
Drpenn has his reasons for being discreet. Over fifteen year ago I wasn't and went to her room where she had hidden cameras. I don't think she wanted to film me for having a porn star pecker, but it cost me some very tense moments and nearly $40K later to ride myself of the situation. Was married at the time with two small children and obviously wanted to any playtime to be ultra private. In this hobby you are always taking chances. My two cents is to make damn sure that YOU control the situation. Ididthisonce and could damn near write a book on the afore episode.
ididthisonce <<<< never claimed to be the sharpest tack in the box.
The odds of shit going down in a nicer hotel that the customer books himself are extremely low to begin with, for all of the reasons I and others already discussed. I think that meeting her in the lobby is more than sufficient for an added check. I do like the lobby bar suggestion though and I've done it a few times myself for first time meetups, though unfortunately many of those lobby bars close too early and instead I am left to hang out on a couch or chair in the lobby.
Look, you can let paranoia run wild if you get crazy about it, but at some point it is just no longer worth the effort if you are so worried that you have to resort to extreme measures.
On a serous note, I've never stayed in an upscale hotel that has rooms with outside doors or rooms on the first floor. I don't think they would allow an obvious hooker with a pimp/shady boyfriend in tow through to the elevator. That, in my mind, is the major danger! Specifically, the issue is misjudging and going for a lower class of girl than you think. A girl making $500+ for an hour isn't likely to pull shit, she's going to take the money and be happy!
With anything there is some risk, but it can be minimized! ;)