Judge orders Greenville Platinum Plus to temporarily close.

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• tumblingdice

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  9 years ago

  That's terrible.
• san_jose_guy

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  9 years ago

  Again, this is all interpretive and hear say evidence which would not have been admissible in a criminal trial. But then, this prosecutor isn't interested in getting any convictions. He has gotten to close the club for alleged crime, without there being any convicted criminals. The owners should have gotten out in front of the story, as Jim and Artie Mitchell once did. They should have closed the club themselves, saying that they don't want any of their customers to suffer a heart attack because of an unlawful arrest. Then they could have posted, "For show times call Walt Wilkins". I still don't understand what these PP owners must know that other club owners don't. Why do so many people like their clubs over and above others? Could it just be that they hire more dancers, making them more competitive and less likely to follow any rules except their own? This precedent is negative for all UHM strip clubs, particularly the total disregard for due process when dealing with criminal allegations. Has anyone checked into any local motels and found takeout already there waiting? Has anyone had any problems with people there to visit Bob Jones University? SJG
• san_jose_guy

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  9 years ago

  Another cost of this is just the owner's blue sky equity. That is the value of the ongoing business beyond it's cannibalization value. Often this is substantial. With the business closed, it is gone. With the laws the way they are, these sorts of businesses have to be considered expendable. Again, the real problem with this is the complete disregard for due process and the rules of evidence. SJG
• tumblingdice

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  9 years ago

  Just wait,a bulldozer is coming to PP Cola.
• gawker

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  9 years ago

  I wonder how many times the judge watched the video?.
• IHearVoices

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  9 years ago

  There goes my idea of SCing in South Carolina when I'm in Augusta in two and a half weeks...
• shadowcat

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  9 years ago

  IHearVoices - Don't cry. Follies in Atlanta is only 4 minutes further than Greenville according to mapquest.
• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  Fucking son of a bitch. That really pisses me off. Shadowcat, do not let this happen to Follies. Anybody know about the other clubs in Greenville? They might be running scared but this could be a great opportunity for them especially if this is just a land grab.
• GACA

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  9 years ago

  I don't get why theye just don't move the club up the way a bit to Spartanburg
• GACA

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  9 years ago

  Fck G-ville. A lot of pretend prissy people, like that town has got LA money or something. ..
• GACA

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  9 years ago

  OK well, not all the people in G-ville are prissy. ..sorry Sharkey
• IHearVoices

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  9 years ago

  Sheesh: didn't know Greenville was that far north of Augusta. I wanted to try out Follies anyway, but I can probably only make it that Thursday night. I know dayshift is great, but family obligations will keep me in Augusta so I can only hit Atlanta on the way there or on the way back. My line of thinking was that South Carolina is so small that it might scare all the clubs in the state...but it turns out there aren't any SCs anywhere close to Augusta anyway - and I've read the reviews about the ones in Augusta, so that's not an option. Maybe I should just have family fun (sigh) and not worry about it...yeah right: I'll hit Follies and/or Pin Ups that Thursday on the way.
• just_the_nuts

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  9 years ago

  Fook me
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  Sucks big time. Might as well drive a tornado through Greenville and bulldoze the mega church, Bob Jones and several homes. I like to visualize destruction done by mother nature when I become unhappy. I once had some dreams where I was a tornado. Strange dream. I really hated mobile homes but didn't know why. I had been feeling somewhat peaceful this year until yesterday. I even experienced a couple of electric shocks in Walmart tonight. Mother nature and I seem strangely in tune. Hoping for electrical storms next week. I miss those.
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  I don't live in Greenville but it still sucks.
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  I just heard the local news. PP ordered closed by Friday. Trial sped up in just 90 days. Usually takes a year. Court order does nothing to stop Patinum from opening up in another location. Then they talk about Goose Busters. A dog looking like a predator and a remote controlled litle speed boat scaring away the geese. Aparently some neighborhoods have too many geese. They were going to shoot them but some wanted to save th geese. Lccal geese lost the will to go back north and just stay here year round. They are lazy southern geese now. Who you going to call? Geese Busters. We just need soliticer busters now.
• shadowcat

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  9 years ago

  GACAclub - The problem is not the city of Greenville but rather the county. PP and the other strip clubs are all located outside of the city limits and fall under county rule.
• impala

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  9 years ago

  Just anouther example of the judicial system assuming guilt and sentencing punishment before actually being proved guilty. I sure glad that a judge can violate the constitution and just suspend ha pious corpus when they feel like it.
• pop

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  9 years ago

  It's not over just yet as lawyers for p+ immediately appealed the order. It's unlikely that there will be a decision by Friday but it's possible.
• shadowcat

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  9 years ago

  Here is the latest including mug shots: [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  9 years ago

  And again it is always the same issues. Publishing names and pictures of the women could cause all sorts of problems for them, like with stalkers. So they should not do it. Now in Santa Clara County and in San Mateo County it has been done. They see such women as a societal menace. It is really disturbing. But in San Francisco the authorities and the newspapers would never dream of doing such. They know that it is wrong to try and stigmatize or place at public risk the women who do sex work. So if the authorities tried to publicize such information, the newspapers and the public would eviscerate them. Second, we still have no criminal trial. The vast majority of the evidence discussed would not be admissible in a criminal trial as it is either hearsay or interpretation. If a girl gets kinda silly and has sex with a guy, that does not mean they are engaging in prostitution. Prostitution is defined as the making of a contract. Usually there will only be two people who are party to this, and it better not have started with the one who is a cop. So if these defendants are willing to go thru a jury trial and if they have money for capable counsel, then the chances of conviction are very low. But these guys are trying to close the club before these trials have occurred and before the evidence has been held to such standards. The Prosecution knows that in prostitution cases the defendant will usually either plead guilty, or just split. This is what they are counting on. That they should be able to close the business by such lack of due process is wrong, and the media should be pointing this out. SJG
• Bigbiznezz

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  9 years ago

  Damn. And I'm moving to Columbia, so next week. What am I supposed to do now. I'm scared to go to any now
• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  Good dancer name among those arrested --Lindsay Willingham.
• GACA

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  9 years ago

  Amanda and Jenifar (where were they when I was there...damn!)
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  Thanks for the link Shadowcat. You really stay up to date on all the strip club stories. I have trouble recognizing people. I think maybe I saw one girl before. I probably have seen others walking around but mug shots are harder to identify and remember people. It makes sense that the dancers I'm most famaliar with were not involved in any charges. I never saw any prostitution in the last several years I've visited. You don't think people suspected me of being an undercover agent who didn't spend much do you? The average customer in the club does not spend much and does not even buy dances. I see people just sitting around watching and not tipping. They are the majority of the crowd or were on weekend nights when it was busy. So the average amount spent at $37 I can believe. I spent less than that the last two times I visited. I never tipped two dollars and certainly not 7 for a beer. I usually only got one or two though and got it myself.
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  I think it's ridiculous the club and agents are worried daty might take place out in the main club when a dancer swings close to a customers face with two bikinis on plus a thong. I'm not interested in that but I like to get close. I see more illegal sexual activity at sporting events every time a make cheerleader picks up and holds a female if we're going to criminalize every time a person touches someone else. It isn't sex but hey, if we want a strictly Puritan society where even touching is considered criminal activity, just fill up all the jails with ordinary people and let all the violent dangerous criminals roam the streets.
• sharkhunter

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  9 years ago

  My sleeping hours are messed up. I should be sound asleep. If the tv sound hadn't cut off, I might still be sleeping listening to the Scence fiction channel or ghost stories or ancient aliens. How am I supposed to sleep if I don't hear stories about aliens, ghosts, or dinosaurs in the background? Oh good, I see a program to put me back to sleep. Life after people. See you guys later.
• big_d_2011

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  9 years ago

  I recognize Micah. The mugshot does not do her justice. I always thought she was smoking. It just took me a few visits to get dances with her. Well worth it.