Just remember to be careful and use language that cannot be used against you in a court of law. The bachelor party question is good, because it does not imply anything illegal. Does anybody remember Polar Bear? He made his living going to strip clubs, and bragged about arresting the customers as well as the dancers...:-(
I say something like this "do you ever work outside the club, ya know for bachelor parties and stuff" if they say no outright then that's the end of the conversation. if they say maybe or yes then i ask if they would do a private party and we talk about it really discretely. the key is that i never ask a girl who i haven't bought dances off of. i usually ask once the dances are done and they're just sitting and chatting and i only ask hot hot girls that turn me on and i definitely compliment them on how hot and beautiful they are first.
BTW, the reason I bought dances from her was because my buddy gave her super high marks for skill and mileage. He knows how fussy I am about how a woman looks and he said she was special. So special he called just tell me about her, which I thought was damn nice. :) (He likes attractive women too, but he'll settle for an old homeless woman who hasn't bathed in a few weeks if it means getting sex. He says he was a hell of a lot more desperate as a young man. What??????!!!!!!)
I can't see going to a massage girl or an escort service. The chance that I would be attracted to massage girl is fairly low and I need to see beforehand what I'm buying. Tootsie's has plenty of attractive dancers and usually I'll be lucky to find 1 that is what I'm looking for.
Strip clubs are ideal because you get see up close and personal every detail and potential flaw. Yes, some can be covered . . . but, I think I'm fairly good at seeing natural beauty. You get to talk with the woman to see if your on the same page. You can get a taste of her skills at a PG and R level before committing to a more X level or XXX level.
I met a really hot dancer recently. Perfect body and nice face. Personality was bubbly and sexually aggressive. Bought some expensive lap dances and was disappointed in her technique. She tried, the mileage was high, and I kept hoping she would relax and improve. No luck and it was basically a waste of $60. The worst part is I think she really wanted to do a good job and she had the body.
That $60 mistake was comparatively cheap--I could have easily made it a $20 mistake but her body was so perfect it was very nice looking at her. If she offered sex, there would be no interest.
I agree Yoda. I think strip clubs are probably the most expensive and least certain option for someone looking for sex. I go to strip clubs for entirely different reasons. Sex has little to do with it. In fact I avoid the few clubs I know of where sex is available. I have no interest in sex with strangers, and even if I did I'd find strip clubs way too dangerous in more ways than one.
Dancers who do extras for money don't keep it a secret. Once they trust you they will approach you. In general a strip club is an expensive place to look for sex. Incall-either FS or FBSM is generaly cheaper and much more of a sure thing. There are many ways to find beautiful talented women on-line who will deliver excellent services for the price of a 60 minute Champagne room dance in your average strip club
Shadowcat, I was actually thinking of girls who advertise for erotic massage rather than full service escorts. Some of them appear to be in the $150 range, vs. $200 and up for full service escorts (and I've spent more than $200 on a lot of strippers.) As far as getting to know someone vs. a total stranger, I totally agree with that, but it seems to me it would be just as easy to get to know a massage girl as a stripper. Anyone ever try that?
I agree with ToplessDancer, do not ever bring up the subject. If the girl is into extras she will let you know without you asking. (And if you are on the Baltimore Block you definately won't have to ask.) But as I've said before, what puzzles me about this subject is why anyone goes to a strip club looking for extras. It's much cheaper and easier to go to one of the web sites that reviews escorts to find what you want. Why go to strip clubs if that's what you're looking for? Most strip clubs are for fun and fantasy, not for sex. And I for one hope it stays that way.
Beware of crossing the line into what could be construed as criminal activity. You may not think it is, but an agressive prosecutor could make a case for soliciting an act of prostitution, given a certain set of facts.
On those rare occasions when I thought the situation might call for it . . . most often when serious $$$$ has been exchanged already . . . I broached the subject via vague questions about club rules. I've learned specifically not bring specific services in relation to cash. Ask the wrong girl the wrong question in the wrong city, and you're on the sidewalk or worse. Suffice to say, I have made other arrangements in a couple of cities: the Block in Baltimore and Bourban Street New Orleans come to mind.
If you like her lap dances, then I think that would be the best time. Tell her how fantastic she was and that you'd like to know if she offers any other services.
So far the few rejections have been sweet and classy. Two dancers actually apologized for not offering more; they worked at GCs. I told them you got nothing at all to apologize for I really loved your dances. The others are usually fairly upfront about their limits and what they would like as compensation.
When you ask a dancer if she offers more (after you've already bought some dances) you are paying her a very nice compliment. Even if the offer is very unwelcome I think it would be *extremely unusual* for a dancer to react too negatively in person. I've never heard of a strip club customer being mistreated by a dancer for politely asking if more service is available. It is sooooooooooo laughable and absurd to think that a dancer who is used to dealing with super jerks and agressive pawing/grabbing day after day would suddenly turn into super bitch because you were eager to spend even more $$$ on her. (You probably already know that everything posted by alleged dancers, customers, and others should be treated as 100% fiction. :) )
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BTW, the reason I bought dances from her was because my buddy gave her super high marks for skill and mileage. He knows how fussy I am about how a woman looks and he said she was special. So special he called just tell me about her, which I thought was damn nice. :) (He likes attractive women too, but he'll settle for an old homeless woman who hasn't bathed in a few weeks if it means getting sex. He says he was a hell of a lot more desperate as a young man. What??????!!!!!!)
I can't see going to a massage girl or an escort service. The chance that I would be attracted to massage girl is fairly low and I need to see beforehand what I'm buying. Tootsie's has plenty of attractive dancers and usually I'll be lucky to find 1 that is what I'm looking for.
Strip clubs are ideal because you get see up close and personal every detail and potential flaw. Yes, some can be covered . . . but, I think I'm fairly good at seeing natural beauty. You get to talk with the woman to see if your on the same page. You can get a taste of her skills at a PG and R level before committing to a more X level or XXX level.
I met a really hot dancer recently. Perfect body and nice face. Personality was bubbly and sexually aggressive. Bought some expensive lap dances and was disappointed in her technique. She tried, the mileage was high, and I kept hoping she would relax and improve. No luck and it was basically a waste of $60. The worst part is I think she really wanted to do a good job and she had the body.
That $60 mistake was comparatively cheap--I could have easily made it a $20 mistake but her body was so perfect it was very nice looking at her. If she offered sex, there would be no interest.
For my cheap budget a strip club is ideal.
If you like her lap dances, then I think that would be the best time. Tell her how fantastic she was and that you'd like to know if she offers any other services.
So far the few rejections have been sweet and classy. Two dancers actually apologized for not offering more; they worked at GCs. I told them you got nothing at all to apologize for I really loved your dances. The others are usually fairly upfront about their limits and what they would like as compensation.
When you ask a dancer if she offers more (after you've already bought some dances) you are paying her a very nice compliment. Even if the offer is very unwelcome I think it would be *extremely unusual* for a dancer to react too negatively in person. I've never heard of a strip club customer being mistreated by a dancer for politely asking if more service is available. It is sooooooooooo laughable and absurd to think that a dancer who is used to dealing with super jerks and agressive pawing/grabbing day after day would suddenly turn into super bitch because you were eager to spend even more $$$ on her. (You probably already know that everything posted by alleged dancers, customers, and others should be treated as 100% fiction. :) )
Good luck and best wishes!
Hope that helps!
Sara