Review:
"First time at the club. Visited on a Tuesday night. Girls ranged from 9 to 6. Body type for everyone. The club was slow. There was always a girl sitting on your lap and pushing for a dance. Waitress constantly asking if you want to..."
This is Bossnia, in Hermosilla, the capital of Sonora. It is also very close to Guyamas, the Gulf of California port written about by David E. Stuart.
What I don't understand is why would anyone want to trade this type of club for the 'extras' club?
I had read in a general audience oriented travel book about how in Mexico they laugh about American style strip clubs. They seem so silly. In Mexico, if they like a stripper, the first thing they do is kiss her.
Now I can see that being a bunch of guys getting drunk and silly. Or I can see it as a more deliberate act indicating to the girl that he is taking her to one of the back rooms.
Lap Dancing started in San Francisco in the late 70's, and it meant a girl sitting on your lap, and for about $1 per minute as decided by the original group of dancers.
But in the decades since it has meant action in booths and back rooms. But anyone who has ever experienced this, or even just thought it through, can easily see that while in principle more could happen in a back room, what typically is the case is that forcing all of the action into the backroom means that the girl always stays in complete control. She never lowers her emotional defenses. It also increases the house cut of the money. I say that it is a chumps game.
Sorry, I'm not interested in that. I don't do it that way.
So in Mexico it sounds like lap sitting and all forms of physical front room friendliness are the norm. You can feed her money. But sometimes she might be more interested in just getting you into the private room session. You can give her some money though to play out the front room preliminaries a little more.
But as reported on blackstripclubs.net and by some TUSCL members, in the most extreme US strip clubs, the girls do do it just like in Mexico, using front room physical friendliness. This only makes sense. If the girl wants results, that's the way to get it.
So why would anyone want to trade this for girls asking, "Wanna dance?", and then for the sorts of dances likely to come from that? Sure, if the girls huddle together and figure out how to make it so they can stay in control, then being on their feet and grinding and dry humping is going to be the way. Or if a bunch of suits at Deja Vu did a brain storming session, they would figure out how to screw up San Francisco.
But why would any customers go for this? That's what I don't understand. When I've been in San Francisco I've turned it around and DATYed dancers. They don't expect guys to come in and open their wallets for that, but when happens they love it and it shows.
Jestrite50 tuscl.net
And then one of the threads where this issue was first raised bac in August, "So you ask about DFKing in the VIP room. I don't see that there should be any reason to wait until you get her into the VIP room." tuscl.net
And then as I had talked about it, Shadowcat started a front room kissing thread: tuscl.net
So who does it this way, or at least tries, doing a front room makeout session before agreeing to anything measured in songs or time, or going to any private spaces?
And most of all, at what clubs do you see the most of this going on? Us PL's need to work together too and make some changes. No more 'extras'. No more treating dancers like vending machines. Instead, GFE.
SJG
more thread replies coming:
davevjr, Things Dancers Should Know About Customers tuscl.net
Shailynn, Unemployment Thread tuscl.net
Buddy Guy, Red Rocks, 2013 youtube.com
You should try writing something that you have experienced rather than read about.
It has been many years since I have been to Hermosillo but it is not a tourist town. My buddy and I got a motel room there for $2/night. For $2 you don't get a key. You just bolt the door from the inside. You get a horse blanket and a cold shower. But next door you could get a rib eye steak cooked over mesquite that was so big it fell of the sides of the meat platter it was served on.
The strip clubs/bordellos were located outside of town and if you didn't speak some Spanish you could forget about getting laid. Customers outnumbered the girls 10 to 1 and the best looking girls wouldn't give you the time of day. They were all waiting for the rich Ranchers to come in. Of course we had lots of Pesos and once that was known we were in. But the ranch hands that were sipping their cervezas did not have girls sitting on their laps and they weren't kissing them. $10USD could get you laid though.