Is Mongering a dying sport in America??

There are certainly bad signs -- the pussification of society, political correctness, loss of civil liberties, religious hypocrites, and overly aggressive law enforcement. But there are countervailing forces -- widespread pornography, the power of the Internet to connect people, and the slutification of American youth. My guess is things will continue to ebb and flow in various communities but there will be places to have fun for the foreseeable future. Also escorting services are going to continue to grow.

As an aside I have totally different experience in Atlanta. Rarely do the clubs there Follies in particular fail to please.

I do not find it to be a problem in Texas. I have spent the last 6 weeks in Gulf Port, Ms and AMP is the only option here.

In answer to the titular question, I don't see any evidence of it.

Prostitutuon hasn't declined in several thousands of years of human society, I doubt the next few will accomplish the task.

"Ebb and flow" is a good phrase.

Where I'm at, it's actually gotten a little better lately. But as we say so often, the quality of the clubs often depends on the quality of the dancers, and because dancers come and go, every club will be better sometimes than others. Maybe the ones you've frequented lately have just hit a bad stretch.

I wouldn't get too down on clubs. A lot like the stock market, which has corrections but generally trends upwards over the long term (i.e. decades), these clubs tend to allow more and more over time, too. The general trend will be towards allowing what makes money to happen, and greater permissiveness makes more money.

Remember that lap dances weren't really a thing before the 80's. Now, a club without lappers wouldn't do any business. I think extras culture is becoming more and more understood and allowed. Sex is starting to be better understood as a natural urge and not something dirty. As kids grow up with Tinder and hookup culture, I think they're realizing that sex and all things related don't necessarily hurt anyone, and some are probably thinking, "I like to do this, why not get paid to do it?"

Much like how we've seen a greater acceptance of things like homosexuality, recreational marijuana use, etc., I think the straightforward exchange of money for sexual services, from lap dances to prostitution, will become more accepted over the next 20 years. There might be stretches where things take a few steps backwards, but then they'll get better in due time.

Might depend on where you live. In Oregon stripping, lap dancing, and even live sex shows are constitutionally protected free expression.

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I have been club touring for years and to my knowledge has never been worth the effort. People think there and NJ are wild but I have never been in a club in either that was worth the gas much less the cover charge.

It seems that areas w/ “good SCs” are more the exception than the norm.

And it does look like the current trend is more anti-SC vs pro-SC in many areas – very few “good areas” have popped up in the recent past but seems like quite a few good areas in the past are no longer.

IDK WTF is going on but I don’t like it.

w.r.t ATL – in my limited knowledge it seems like Follies is about the only dub w/ liberal two-way contact w.r.t. dances (and Shooters is not bad but not as good as Follies IME).

This stuff runs in cycles in many areas. Always has, always will. For example, for many years N. Florida was considered a wasteland for dicey activities, but not nowadays. Providence was tight, and then loosened up a lot, and is now a bit tighter again. MA clubs sucked ass for a long time, but have gotten looser in recent years. CT clubs go through ups and downs on the p4p front. NYC is currently tighter than it was in the glory days, but an $800 CR room will still get you what you want. Greenville clubs loosened up, then tightened up, the loosened up again.

I could go on, but the point is that that this shit is cyclical. All it takes is for LE to lay off for a while for things to get swinging again. LE in most areas doesn't have the resources to keep sustained pressure on these activities, so really it is about riding out the storm and waiting for calmer times to set in.

I think there are two or three forces.

Local municipalities are becoming less SC friendly. They may allow existing clubs to hang around, but opening a new club is painful in many areas.

Extras culture has emerged, in no small part due to competition from the Internet and hookup culture. A lot of you older PLs may have come of age when getting a girl naked in the flesh was a struggle. A willingness to show tits could earn money in the past. These days? Meh.

Lap dances are the same or cheaper than 10, even 20 years ago in nominal dollars. A lot of the older strippers on SW lament how stripping used to be more about actual dancing for dollars. US PLs demand and get a lot more mileage for our cash.

Of course that increased mileage may be contributing to increased LE scrutiny.

Men like seeing women naked. But there's streaming porn and camgirls and more sexual openness than ever. Perhaps the physical club isn't necessary? But I expect they will be around long after most of you are in the ground.

I'll still be interested in visiting strip clubs even if someone comes out with photorealistic 3d holo projections where you could watch strippers stripping in your living room. However if you could select the girl's and make program changes, that might cut down the number of people visiting strip clubs. Interactive 3 d holo projections even more so. Now if they come out with affordable holodecks as in star trek, strip clubs are dead.

When you see clubs closing or going air dance / pasties, that's the Bible thumpers.

The subgroup of feminists who want to outlaw sex work support the "Nordic model" -- only the custies are the "criminals".

It will either die becuase of the economy or get cheaper, but in the end the number of clubs is way way down and it is because of e xtras.

Well, I've pointed out in other threads that the improving economy will probably help strip clubs stay open but hurt mileage/raise prices. It also will make it harder to stock dancers as more cute girls get boring office jobs with 401ks and medical insurance.