No beatin around the bush
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
Yesterday I was at my favorite club and was approached by a dancer new to me. She said that she had been working at Pink Pony but it was dead, She was cute in a girl next door type of way and pleasant to talk to. When she asked if I wanted a dance I said yes. Well t was a terrible dance by my club's standards and I stopped her at one song. Then she surprised me by asking if I ever do VIP. I said that I did and asked if she was offering. She said yes, so I asked what was on the menu. I could tell be her hesitation that there was nothing on her menu that would interest me. Then she asked what I wanted and I just blurted out that "I wanted my dick sucked". I think that shocked the hell out of her and I doubt that I will see her again.
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Some girls are just born with the ho gene – god bless’m
#RightBackAtYa
#pound
Rather than accepting her initial dance offer, what would have happened if instead you just invited her to sit down, handed her some sitting tips which she will not have to cut with the house, and started talking to her, charming her, courting her, and in general tried to get her to start making out with you? What do you think would have happened? This is what I have advocated, drawing from AMP experiences, civilian experiences, and S.F. SC experiences, as well as having just thought the whole matter through, and then also from reading reviews of the most FS oriented clubs in the country as this is how the girls themselves push it. This is what Jestrite50 and Duke69 do all the time, and the results are phenomenal.
And then you and she could have retreated to the VIP room only when it was clear to both of you that you were going to fuck.
Where do you weigh in on this?
SJG
Stones 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLPKRikx…
But anyway, what do you think would have happened if you deflected her dance offer and invited her to sit down and started coming on to her. You talk to her, but it is to charm her and court her, but not to solicit her or to try and negotiate with her.
What do you think would have happened?
SJG
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you might find
You get what you need
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Of course this is true. Never want to ask the girl to solicit, or otherwise talk to her like a prostitute. Even if they approach me or I approach them out on the sidewalk, I don't talk to them as anything other than civilians.
So how about going the rest of the way in SC's and treating her completely like a civilian and just verbally coming on to her and then trying to get her to make out with you? No reason to ever talk explicitly about sex acts or menus at all. Talk about such stuff if for times when all you intend to do is talk.
At the SC's where I live this would be impossible as they are no touching. At the SF clubs it could work and experiences I have had suggest this, but more often than not those places are set up to be clip joints, and so they are screwed. They are places for chumps.
But at AMPs this is my usual mode. I select my girl and treat her in a completely civilian manner. There are never any solicitations and very few negotiations. Talk is to charm and court her, but never to get her permission or agreement to anything. What is to happen physically I just make happen. While once in a while this fails, most of the time the girls just eat it right up and turn the whole session into a GFA, Girl Friend Audition.
In SF RB AAMPs, where the parties have not met each other prior to the front door, some shameless parties coached the girls to start DFKing as soon as they get the guy inside, and before asking for the money.
Reviews from multiple sources describe how in the most FS oriented clubs in the country that it is done like this as the girls give you very little choice but to start making out with them on your lap. Tuscl members have affirmed that this is not restricted to black clubs.
Jestrite50
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
Shadowcat, we have talked about this on numerous related threads of yours. What do you think would have happened if you tried to do it this way in your regular clubs?
Would your advances get rebuffed?
Or maybe is it that that girl would probably end up making your breakfast the next morning?
SJG
Neil Young
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlHf8rjk…
You've always been a gentleman in clubs. Well as least as far as I've seen. :)