Battle of wills – sorta
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I’ve personally experienced it at some clubs; and have read about it in reviews from time to time – i.e. dancers not taking anything off on stage b/c PLs are not tipping.
I know there is the rare exception of clubs like Cheetah Atlanta where it seems to be a club policy that dancers need to be tipped $5 for them to take anything off – but more often than not it seems to be a “battle of wills” per se where dancers don’t want to take anything off on stage b/c no one is tipping and PLs may not want to tip on stage b/c dancers are being lame and not taking anything off.
What’s wrong w/ these hos – or is it us PLs – nah it’s them – thoughts?
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I will say this though; I have been to clubs where people are tipping and SOME (not all) of the girls don't take their tops off. They just take their bottoms off and that's it
Honestly, it's rare that a girl's top being on or off influences whether I go up to tip. You can tell whether or not she's worth tipping with her top on, so it's not like she's gaining or losing anything by keeping the top on, at least in my world.
It was a quiet night at one club in Indy. The dancer took the stage, lethargically walked around the pole a couple of times, then just sat down. Didn't do anything. The DJ yanked her (had her sent home, too, if I remember right). Course then the dancer he called up to the stage had to be the one sitting with me.
At another club in Indy, on another quiet night, I went back into the VIP with one dancer. When she took her top off, she told me I was the first guy to see her boobs that night -- and this was around midnight.
Course, in Fargo, I've also seen guys start to line up to tip one 50-year-old dancer I know before she's even started to take her clothes off. While she's pretty much just a strutter on stage, she still manages to own it and project a smoldering intensity and energy. She tends to get far more stage-side tips than a lot of the younger dancers who seem to think all they have to do is take off their tops and walk around.
Rule is, Up Top, you've gotta have a top on unless you're getting a tip, then you can lift it for the tip. Side 1, you've gotta show something -- maybe it's take the top off, or if you've got a shirt, you have to open it. Then Side 2, you've gotta show something more. Maybe it's take the shirt off, or maybe you take off a pair of panties to reveal a G-string, or whatever.
Just the policy of that club, I guess.
Unless the girl is much hotter than the other dancers at that club, and is the only one there who is that hot, I'm more stubborn than them. I won't tip girls who meander around stage with their clothes on. I've sat stage side for 4/5 girls in a row and not tipped a cent because I didn't see a single nipple.
For the most part, if its more than one girl in a row with that attitude, I leave. It won't keep me from going back ever, but its something I'll consider next time I'm out. Sometimes I'll go out of my way to make it known that I'm willing to tip to see if I can get them to break, but the success rate is fairly low. On occasion sitting at the stage and tipping the waitress a couple extra bucks for shaking her ass at me or popping a boob out has been enough to turn the tide. Sometimes tipping the first girl who takes her clothes off works too.
As far as what the girls are thinking, I have no clue. I don't talk to those girls. I often wonder what management is thinking though. I know I can't be the only one who leaves a club much quicker when the girls on stage have clothes on. They can't make any money off me when I leave. That's one of the advantages Cheetah has over other local clubs, they enforce a topless on the 2nd song and nude on the 3rd song rule. If a girl still has her top on in the 2nd song the DJ starts announcing 2nd song 'dancer name' and either she takes it off or I've seen a bouncer come pull her off stage and escort her to the back. I've actually tipped the DJ for being on top of that shit. Tootsies must have a similar rule, cause I've never seen a bitch pull that shit there. In both cases, I've gone to those clubs over nearby choices for that reason.
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Agreed, and girls with this classic 'I won't take anything off if they don't tip me first" attitude are shooting themselves in the foot. In every club where I've seen this happen, more guys tip the girls who take more off, all else being equal. And those same girls end up in the back far more often.
There is one nude club in CT where the girls are notorious for doing this. Many of them won't even go topless unless a guy approaches with cash in hand. No skin off my teeth. They have already told me everything I need to know about their personalities, so I just keep my money in my pocket. If an attractive, fun one gets up on the stage, I become motivated to get off my ass and spend some cash, but on some nights the entire crew is doing this stuff.
No "battle of wills" needed really. If you want to hasten the departure of the uptight ones from the business, just don't reward bad behavior. I don't. It's a strip club, not a peep show. If a girl doesn't want to do her proper set, then she is dead to me. If an entire crew is acting like that, then they are all dead to me. End of story. There is always tomorrow at another club. :)
For this reason at my favorite club I rarely tip on stage. The girls know what the score is and they take it all of regardless of the amount of tips. They are lucky if a 3 song set will get them $10 but they realize the importance of advertising.
At other clubs I too have seen the ones that don't take anything off and I have noted that they are not getting any tips and not getting many dances when they get off stage. They are the first to complain about how bad business is. Their loss not mine.