Tijuana or City of Industry, CA? Help!
pensionking
Illinois
Let's say I am from out-of-state and am traveling to L.A. for two days (one night -- technically, Anaheim, CA). Understanding different strokes for different folks . . . if a monger was determined to pursue skin on skin fun, would locals in the know recommend . . .
a) negotiating extras in COI (a 30 mile trek across crowded freeways with no "guarantee" of successful "completion") or
b) Tijuana (a 110 mile trek and a border crossing with the potential of a "sure thing").
Or, is there somewhere else in Southern California I am unaware of that is a better or more convenient alternative than COI? Maybe Pahrump, NV? (while legal, that's 5 hours away and much more expensive, right?)
I'm just having a difficult time sorting out cost, value, quality, convenience, hassle, certainty, etc.
Yeah, yeah -- I know, try them all -- maybe I will someday -- but for now, given time to do one and only one -- which would tuscl experts recommend???
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I see that you have reviewed clubs in Illinois and Indiana. I know that there are high mileage clubs there too. The East Saint Louis area is well known for this, as are places near Chicago, both in Illinois and Indiana.
People do make pilgrimages to TJ, lots and lots of people. Read TMojo's article. That Hong Kong Bar and its Cascadas Hotel are like nothing else in this world.
Maybe someday Ciudad Juarez will be back in action. It could become just as good. So for now it is TJ.
Hit up Slick or Lopaw for more SoCal info. There might be some OC clubs that will fit the bill. With only 2 days forget about TJ. Too far.
It's funny that TL is down the street from 5 colleges, a theology school, a botanical garden, and a cool, old neighborhood.
As others have said COI is great for virtually guaranteed mileage that doesn't cost a lot but the traffic can be bad. If you aren't looking for 9's and 10's try Flamingo, very cheap and incredibly high mileage. Most of the girls there are 5-6 but every shift there is always at least one 8-9. They aren't shy about wanting your money and being willing to work for it.
There is another close alternative but it can be expensive. Go to Extacy in Santa Ana (really on the boarder with Costa Mesa). The club is very low key, they always have a ton of dancers that are mostly 8+ and the nude bed dances are fantastic. The bed dances are expensive however but with the right girl they can be amazing.
IMO, Hong Kong club in TJ is the best place to go, slam dunk. HOWEVER, if you're only here for one night, i would NOT recommend it. In fact, it's so crazy only someone like I would attempt it. Why? TRAFFIC !!! Dude, unless you time it right, you're gonna hit crazy traffic getting out of Anaheim to Mexico, and also in San Diego. Personally, I think that by the time you make the 3 hour, traffic filled trip down there, and the 2 or 3 hour trip back, overall the great experience in TJ would be destroyed by the agony of the trip.
Personally, since you're already in Anaheim, I would highly recommend the Flamingo Theater. I used to be a huge Flamingo fan, and it was my vote for the best mileage club in Southern California. Sadly the dancer quality has eroded considerably in recent years, but mileage is still there and you might even find a hottie. And the $10 high mileage laps will, if nothing else, get your blood going. If that doesn't pan out, head down the street a half mile or so to Sahara Theater, with similar mileage but $15 laps.
If neither of those pan out, and if you love you some black booty, you can head to south central LA for some sure mileage with some hot (or semi hot) black chicks. But if you prefer Mexican chicks, head to City of Industry. I used to be a fan of the area, but no longer. But if you want mileage, it's not too far from Anaheim, and there are a few clubs to choose from.
COI has more clubs, so you can go from club to club to find what you like. If you are going on a weeknight, you should be able to hit several clubs without paying too much for cover. The cover charges will probably be cheaper than the tank of gas to get to TJ and back.
As far as mileage in or near Anaheim, I've only found it at the Flamingo. The only reason to try there in your situation is that OTC might be available if you are staying close by.
Avoid Imperial Showgirls; years ago it was a destination club with hot dancers and sneaky high mileage; that is no longer the case IME. As mentioned, the Flamingo can be high mileage but the waitresses are annoying.
TJ is silly idea from Anaheim. Two hours south (with traffic), however much pussy you want, and then the trek back through US Customs (don't forget your passport). Been to TJ six times (I preferred AB to HK), but, as much as I lust after Latinas, I just don't think it's worth the effort after all is said and done.
Happy mongering!
CP
I think there is a need for greater specificity, especially when it comes to the COI and LA clubs, and California in general where extreme mileage seems to be the exception and not the rule.
Some have said Rio is very high mileage, but I don't know. Some say Starz and KHVIII are high mileage. Some say that Club Fantasy in Sacramento is very high mileage. I think there is a problem with lack of precision in terminology.
I have not been to these places myself, not yet. But I should now admit that I have a more than casual familiarity with the now defunct San Francisco Red Book and the Asian Massage Parlor community.
Red Book GFE meant DFK + DATY + BBBJ + MSOG ( meaning covered full service with 2nd pop ).
Most of the Asian girls did not do Cum In Mouth, Facials, or Swallow. That was special, beyond RB-GFE. Likewise they did not do Anal. BBFS was considered irresponsible and something which should not even be discussed.
I am an especial fan of MSOG. It is nice because there is some in between time which is real nice for getting to know each other. And then with the second pop, the girl does more to make it happen. She really has to want it and has to offer herself fully to make it happen.
I can't see doing this on the floor of some SC's VIP room in 30min. But at an SC / Brothel like the Hong Kong with hotel rooms, it would be an awesome experience!
We need though to be mindful of TMojo's excellent article and check in to a room. Otherwise you just get 30min. You also have to negotiate the extra time and 2nd pop with the girl up front. Sure it is more time and work for her. But I have found that if you are already DFKing with a girl and getting her softened up, then she will be flattered that you want to do MSOG with her and she will definitely be eager to do it.
Of course I know that with age things change. But what it is is that things get slower and more purposeful. All the more reason for an FS oriented venue, rather than short times in VIP rooms.
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Maybe people don't want to get their favorite clubs in trouble? Or maybe there is just such a mileage disparity and the lack of a detailed terminology. I am a strong supporter of the RB-GFE terminology and as that being a basic standard for full service.
But this was with Asian immigrants. American civilian sex is different, influenced by porno movies. So the standard should be higher, like including Cum In Mouth, Facials, and Swallowing.
I am a big fan of DFK, DATY, and MSOG. This generally means more time, and more of a bedroom type environment than the "Jack Shack" booths you find some places.
But I know that some guys don't really want this and are instead more into HJ and BJ.
Again, more reason to get a more precise terminology instead of just "high mileage".
Can TUSCL be changed so that the discussions bump to the top of the list when someone comments?
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The terminology is usually fuzzy on purpose. If you want more specific information about what has happened at a particular place or with a particular girl, you may want to send one of the reviewers or comment writers a private message.
Without being too graphic, I will say again that Tropical Lei is the place to go, in my experience, for practically guaranteed mileage. If you want private rooms with bed, then Spearmint Rhino Rialto is for you. Obviously these places are strip clubs, not brothels, so MSOG is going to take multiple trips to the VIP area, unless you recovery period is about one song.
Spearmint Rhino Rialto? Again, as you say being fuzzy on purpose, do they have beds in the VIP room, or is it only in some special theme rooms with an extremely high price? My experience with such special rooms is that it means a fantasy and big money for the club, but not much delivery.
Being out of that area, but having generally followed Spearmint Rhino and DeJa Vu as being places with very attractive girls, but less mileage, I would be pleasantly surprised if there is extreme mileage for a sensible price at this Spearmint Rhino Rialto.
As far as one song recovery, that is indeed the issue. I have gathered that the guys who are into HJ and BJ are more into the dancer doing it to them. To me that's kind of like the old video arcade booths where you keep popping in quarters and doing DIY. Then there is the peep show version of this. And now, you have a real girl with real hands and a real mouth to do it for you.
For me that is okay, but just only okay. If she is going to give me BJ till completion, then I would rather that be in the context of an ongoing sexual relationship. That is, I want to be doing it to her. I want her to submit. So I want DFK, FIV, DATY, and FS. I don't want to do any of this measured in songs either. If it going to be like that I'd rather just play with them sitting on my lap, in the main room, and be feeding them some sitting tips. It's not so much that it is necessarily cheaper, it's that I stay more in control of it. Yes it is about control, about power, about seeing something I want and getting it.
My high mileage experience is not so much in strip clubs, but in AMP and AAMP environments. I do them slow and easy. Most of them are not expecting this either. So they really let go. One of the biggest variables though is if they can be gotten to DFK before hand. Often they will because they are not expecting it. If they do, then it will be a superb session. The flush will show in her cheeks and all the other girls will here about it and they will all be lined up next time for their turn.
Also, just to give our thread starter pensionking some advice which is not fuzzy, which is better then for him on his coming short stint in LA, Spearmint Rhino Rialto, Tropical Lei, perhaps Rio in Los Angeles, this Flamingo, or perhaps some of the black clubs in Gardena like Starz or KH8?
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I haven't been to most of the LA clubs, but I have been to several in Orange County and almost all of them in COI. My advice, which is the same as Slickspic's, is to go to Tropical Lei.
Dude, seriously, do you find you need to comment on things you have absolutely no experience with? It's kinda funny. You have never been, but you have all kinds of comments.
Sometimes it's best to sit out on a discussion. Really.