Wow, you yanks have a gun problem. Japan has the strictest gun laws on earth, and the lowest gun violence rate as well, perhaps you can learn from them?
Here is my issues.... Look how many shootings just happened the past few days. Maybe if the media would make such a big deal people might stop thinking that they will go out in a blaze of glory and be famous!!!
@che, wow you did your homework, but the results are still the same, you yanks have too many gun deaths. Gun control worked well for Japan, and switzerland has a high standard of living for almost everyone in their country. As for canada, we may spend too much on gun control, but in its own way it worked. Compare california to canada, similar populations, and yet they have four times the violence...
The founders of America gave us the Constitutional right to bear arm along with other rights against illegal search and seizure for example (although patriot act kind of really fucked that up) because ~1775 the King of England sent his military into colonial homes to search private home and confiscate arms to prevent colonists from having the means to raise a militia to stand against the king's arm. But alas, too make American are poor students of history and don't understand this.
And then progressive smucks have the nerve to argue that those sorts of things couldn't ever happen in America even though it did in the past and we are certainty under a lot of arguably unconstitutional surveillance in present day.
Furthermore... correlation is not causation. Progressive smucks always argue that more guns lead to more violence. That's BS. The more violence there is, the more guns you have to have in order to maintain that level of violence. Violence requires guns, however guns don't require violence. We have a violence problem (not a gun problem) but admitting that it's a violence problem is an even bigger political hot potato for the elite ruling class here.
I don't know any details about the Purdue incident... In a lot of these types of incidents, after the anti-gun fear-mongers and the they're-taking-our-rights fear-mongers quite down, it seems to me a lot of the time the evident shows many warning signs were missed leading up to the final act. Navy shooter = multiple warnings missed. Lanza, investigated by the FBI but didn't dig deep enough.
We have a violence problem. Guns are only a tool. If that was not available, many Americans are resourceful and might use explosives. It wouldn't be the first time. Maybe the violence problem is a combination of economic factors and or psychotic factors. Mental health, terrorism, and being just plain evil are possible reasons.
@mjc01: "The founders of America gave us the Constitutional right to bear arm along with other rights against illegal search and seizure for example"
No, they did not. Nothing in the Constitution *gives* or grants those rights. Those rights are already ours by virtue of our birth as human beings, they are not granted or given by any human agency. Consequently, they cannot be taken away by any human agency. They can be violated, but not taken away.
Shark... You are correct. When people compare the US to other countries it is like comparing Apples to Oranges.
The US has a high population of many different cultures living next to each other. Other places don't have that diversity. Also in the US we have many illegal immigrants or people in our country on visas type things. So again more diversity. In the US we have many more "freedoms"....ie press, speech, bare arms, etc. than other countries. In the US there is just so much diversity in policy, policing, ethinicity, culture, etc. I mean just the difference between political parties gets people all heated up.
But guns are not the problem. We have enough laws in place to help with many of the problems but agencies don't follow thru.
Oh for crying out loud. Yes, GMD, you are technically correct that "certain unalienable rights" are technically protected not "given" by the constitution... but it was really really nice of those guys like Jefferson to put in in writing.
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The founders of America gave us the Constitutional right to bear arm along with other rights against illegal search and seizure for example (although patriot act kind of really fucked that up) because ~1775 the King of England sent his military into colonial homes to search private home and confiscate arms to prevent colonists from having the means to raise a militia to stand against the king's arm. But alas, too make American are poor students of history and don't understand this.
And then progressive smucks have the nerve to argue that those sorts of things couldn't ever happen in America even though it did in the past and we are certainty under a lot of arguably unconstitutional surveillance in present day.
Furthermore... correlation is not causation. Progressive smucks always argue that more guns lead to more violence. That's BS. The more violence there is, the more guns you have to have in order to maintain that level of violence. Violence requires guns, however guns don't require violence. We have a violence problem (not a gun problem) but admitting that it's a violence problem is an even bigger political hot potato for the elite ruling class here.
I don't know any details about the Purdue incident... In a lot of these types of incidents, after the anti-gun fear-mongers and the they're-taking-our-rights fear-mongers quite down, it seems to me a lot of the time the evident shows many warning signs were missed leading up to the final act. Navy shooter = multiple warnings missed. Lanza, investigated by the FBI but didn't dig deep enough.
No, they did not. Nothing in the Constitution *gives* or grants those rights. Those rights are already ours by virtue of our birth as human beings, they are not granted or given by any human agency. Consequently, they cannot be taken away by any human agency. They can be violated, but not taken away.
The US has a high population of many different cultures living next to each other. Other places don't have that diversity. Also in the US we have many illegal immigrants or people in our country on visas type things. So again more diversity. In the US we have many more "freedoms"....ie press, speech, bare arms, etc. than other countries. In the US there is just so much diversity in policy, policing, ethinicity, culture, etc. I mean just the difference between political parties gets people all heated up.
But guns are not the problem. We have enough laws in place to help with many of the problems but agencies don't follow thru.
"Well, you think the Constitution gives you rights? Well then, we'll just modify it to take them away, then."