I've never gone as far as renting a room but I've definitely been strung along in the past by the promise of OTC. One thing I learned-if it's going to happen, it will happen soon or not at all.
And I have found that the signals vary widely--from the "we should go out sometime" with the cell phone number (which, to my great surprise, turned out to be a legitimate and serious offer) to, being told at ten minutes to closing time, "Come to my house after work and we'll get off." (which, while not tested, came at a time and with such an immediate sense of timing that I have always assumed it was genuine.)
Yeah, the LAST person you want to ask is another dancer.
A fav of mine (who doesn't do OTC). Was marveling at why so many wives hate strippers so much. "This is all a fantasy, this is the LAST place a guy is going to get laid, we wind them up and send them home horny". I have to agree, I think if wives really understood where some of their husband's romantic inspiration came from when they are awakened for romp after a "night out with the boys" they would appreciate strippers a lot more.
I'll add to the consensus. If a girl is available OTC, you'll know it.
I did once have a dancer tell me that, in her club, you could tell who was "on the market" because they were the ones sitting by the door in street clothes, essentially waiting to be picked up. Perhaps that is why some clubs don't let dancer hang around off-shift. (Or maybe she was bullshitting me).
For God's sake, don't rely on what other dancers tell you. The most common dancer/dancer diss is to say that a girl sees guys outside the club (for money).
Yoda, I agree. Gus go to SC's for a lot of different reasons - maybe their club is a nice place to hang out and have a few beers, maybe they enjoy watching naked girls on stage, maybe they enjoy talking to pretty scantily-clad girls, maybe they enjoy private dances, maybe their club provides some limited (or not) sex - and we're all there for different reasons. But if you're looking for OTC sex, the SC is probably not a good place to go unless it's a place that's known for that. Most strippers aren't interested and are insulted when asked.
Chandler: No problem. I'm probably an anomaly (a nice way of saying weirdo) in many of my opinions about SC's and escorts. I enjoy hanging around in clubs and I like women/dancers. If it turns into play for pay that's fine but I've been around clubs long enough to know that it's not the norm. In this day and age it's very easy to find a pretty, well-reviewed escort so why risk pissing-off a nice lady who accepts being naked for a living but doesn't want it to go any further? Sex is great but hanging around for an afternoon with a favorite dancer...or two or five is the best way to kill time that I've come up with.
Yoda: Forgive me for seeming to getting on my high horse about it. This group is different than I'm used to with other SC boards on the subject of escorts. I'm used to outsiders coming around and saying, "You guys are all idiots to waste your money on strip clubs when you could just hire an escort for a lot less money!" We'd all shrug and say he'll never understand - strip clubs are a completely different experience and mindset. It was an either/or proposition. Obviously, your attitude is quite different from that.
I admit to having very little experience in this area and no success whatsoever, so my comments are based on conjecture and what dancers have told me. But it's my impression that most dancers know they could make more money escorting than dancing, and that's what they would do if they didn't mind sleeping with guys for money. The fact that they are dancing is a good indication that they aren't generally for sale. I'm sure there are exceptions but those are probably a small percentage of the girls in most clubs. So I agree that you should wait for them to ask you. And expect a long wait. Most girls get propositioned all the time, which they interpret as a lack of respect, which makes you just another jerk in their eyes.
Chandler: Yes, I understand. I answered his question with my thoughts in the first sentence of my post. The second part of my answer was strictly editorializing on my part.
I've met lots of dancers I'd like to sleep with-all of my favs in fact (otherwise they wouldn't be favs I guess). On the other hand, if I asked them all to sleep with me they probably wouldn't be my favs either. I always wait for the dancer to make the first move. If the move never comes I'm perfectly happy to fantasize about the dancer (if I'm spending money on her it means I like her, no point in screwing that up) and hire a good escort to handle my other needs. If the move does come well....problem solved.
Yoda, note that Shrug asks, "How can you tell if a girl is available...", and not "Where can you find a girl...". There's a world of difference between saying to yourself it might be nice to fuck a particular stripper you see in a club and thinking you'd like to line up somebody who's good at fucking. I'm always thinking the former, never the latter.
I never ask. If a dancer offers it she won't keep it a secret. The more selective ones may wait a while before they mention it and will probably expect you to buy some dances first.
In any case an escort - either a service or independant - is a much better way to get laid by a hot woman. It amazes me that guys assume that a beautiful women who happens to be a stripper will automatically be great in bed. The worst sex I've ever paid for was from a dancer who did take out.
The odds are pretty poor. There are strippers who do take-out with guys who they barely know but those often aren't the most attractive girls in the place. You're better off calling an escort if that's what you're looking for.
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A fav of mine (who doesn't do OTC). Was marveling at why so many wives hate strippers so much. "This is all a fantasy, this is the LAST place a guy is going to get laid, we wind them up and send them home horny". I have to agree, I think if wives really understood where some of their husband's romantic inspiration came from when they are awakened for romp after a "night out with the boys" they would appreciate strippers a lot more.
I did once have a dancer tell me that, in her club, you could tell who was "on the market" because they were the ones sitting by the door in street clothes, essentially waiting to be picked up. Perhaps that is why some clubs don't let dancer hang around off-shift. (Or maybe she was bullshitting me).
For God's sake, don't rely on what other dancers tell you. The most common dancer/dancer diss is to say that a girl sees guys outside the club (for money).
I've met lots of dancers I'd like to sleep with-all of my favs in fact (otherwise they wouldn't be favs I guess). On the other hand, if I asked them all to sleep with me they probably wouldn't be my favs either. I always wait for the dancer to make the first move. If the move never comes I'm perfectly happy to fantasize about the dancer (if I'm spending money on her it means I like her, no point in screwing that up) and hire a good escort to handle my other needs. If the move does come well....problem solved.
In any case an escort - either a service or independant - is a much better way to get laid by a hot woman. It amazes me that guys assume that a beautiful women who happens to be a stripper will automatically be great in bed. The worst sex I've ever paid for was from a dancer who did take out.