Missing girl from Boston found dancing at Providence strip club

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• Dougster

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  11 years ago

  Isn't MADFAG_ROMEO from RI? I wonder if that was him?
• SlickSpic

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  11 years ago

  Did they find Hoffa there too? Maybe working as the floor manager.
• Lone_Wolf

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  11 years ago

  The question here is - can all the PL's that took her to VIP be charged with felony for fondling a minor. Sounds fucking crazy I know but crazy shit like that has happened in the past.
• SlickSpic

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  11 years ago

  Did anybody ever get in trouble with Traci Lords?
• Dacandyman

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  11 years ago

  This is sick. that Troy guy should be locked up forever but the shouldnt go after ppl who went to vip with her cause they thought she was over 18. Going after girls youngr than 18 and ppl who do it should be in jail Like did u guys hear about tad nugent?? He is a stupid old guy who playd guitar and han a stupid reality show. Im ok wit hunting some animals but not with Nugent cause he is an asswhole. i heard he hunt illegal and just tortures animals an thats not cool. I also heard that Courtney Luv gave him a bj when she was 12. that is sick an i think nugent is just an asswhole like this Troy guy
• Moose42

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  11 years ago

  How can you mistake a 15 year old girl for someone with an ID indicating they are over 21?
• Cheo_D

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  11 years ago

  "Footman has a quarter-century history of sex crimes, from a rape conviction in 1986, to being convicted of running a prostitution ring with girls as young as 14 from Massachusetts to Delaware. According to court records, Footman and another prostitute were running underage girls to prostitute themselves at various places" -- OK so one would expect that with a prior history of rape, that conviction of interstate pimping of 14-year-olds should have put him permanently out of circulation. Or at least on a more strict watch. As to PLs who were inadvertently involved in this, I believe the authorities will exercise prosecutorial discretion and decide it's not worth going strict on them for regular shows/dances, as they'd have a reasonable expectation that management had done the checking. OTOH if they can identify any who they can prove engaged in actual sex with her, those guys could be in trouble, but it would be a more complicated investigation to carry out.
• Cheo_D

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  11 years ago

  @Moose42: I know women pushing 30 who get regularly carded and the ID looked at very closely; and I've seen girls of 15 (such as the aforementioned T. E. Lords) who by physique and attitude easily passed for their mid-20s.
• thenumber10

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  11 years ago

  Not surprised that it was Cheaters. That place is notoriously seedy even for an SC. As far as the PL's? Find out which guys took her back that, identify them, then prove what actually happened back there. That is a massive amount of leg work for cops, and knowing RI cops they won't want to do it. I could see the City and the Law going hard after Cheaters. There have been plans to renovate that whole area and Cheaters is right in the middle of it. Plus they were the ones who argued they could legally hire minors a few years ago. Those guys probably have no leash when it comes to law enforcement.
• Dacandyman

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  11 years ago

  thenumber10 Im def not going to cheaters if i go to Providence. Im not planing to in the near future but i dont like stuff lik this. It would be 1 thing if the were a good place that jus got fooled by a rly good fake id but if what u say is true the prolly dont care Thats not cool.
• ilbbaicnl

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  11 years ago

  There are many 21+ dancers who bank because they look much younger. I think that, any time an adult has sex with a minor, there is sufficient grounds for an indictment (of the adult). However, proof (beyond a reasonable doubt) of intent to commit an act which (you are presumed to know) is unlawful is required for you to be convicted. A lack of reasonable care to avoid fucking a minor would be considered a form of intent. The prosecution might successfully argue the club was so sketchy a reasonable person would not rely on an assurance from the club that dancers were not minors. Prosecutors don't always indict when they have grounds, they prioritize cases based on the chances of winning.
• Papi_Chulo

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  11 years ago

  No one should be forced to do things against their will; especially sexual acts. But, it seems like the females in questions always get a pass and are always portrayed as sexual victims as if they had absolutely no choice in the life they are leading. I am sure there are young women whom are forced or brainwashed into doing sexual work against their will – but IMO this seems to be the minority of those involved in sex work. The aforementioned Traci Lords started doing pornos around 16 I believe; I don’t recall it ever being mentioned she was forced to do it. Famous porn actress Jenna Jamerson I believe started stripping at 16 or 17; again I’ve never heard that it was b/c someone forced her. And some of us have come across; or heard stories from other SCers; of girls that willingly got into stripping at 16 or 17. There are a lot of young girls that are runaways for w/e reasons (legit or not) and they want to do their thing and live their lives as they see fit – like many females (especially attractive ones); they quickly realize they can make good and quick $$$ selling their bodies (stripping or escorting) and thus decide to do so. I often see those shows on TV where advocates try to convince the girls to “leave the life” – more often than not I don’t see the girls/women run into the saving arms of the advocates; rather they usually turn down the offers of “help” and these girls/women do not want to give up the life.
• georgmicrodong

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  11 years ago

  "No one should be forced to do things against their will; especially sexual acts." While I agree with the sentiment, I don't agree with the "especially" part. Sex is no more or less sacrosanct than anything else when it comes to consent. Elevating some above others is what allows things like stealing your money for a "good cause" or forbidding you sugary drinks for "your own good" to sound acceptable. *Any* and *all* coercion initiated against another person is bad, whether it be to make one pick one's nose to to kill one's self.
• Dougster

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  11 years ago

  I don't know, dude, I think forcing people to do something things is definitely worse than others. Example - blocking an intersection so people are forced to wait but as bad ad forcing someone to have sex with you. There is a reason some crimes carry greater penalties than others.
• ilbbaicnl

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  11 years ago

  @Papi if a 13-year-old ends up in the hospital because you let him drive your car "well he wanted to" would not work as a defense.
• georgmicrodong

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  11 years ago

  Not the same thing. There is no coersion in your example. Aside from the somewhat specious argument that driving is a privlege, not a right, those drivers chose to be there, knowing the potential for problems. Now, if your talking about holding a gun on them and threatening to shoot them if they try to leave, then yeah. But that scenarios *supports* my contention. I'm referring to actual rights violations against individual people, not circumstances, even those caused by stupid people, that are really just inconveniences.
• Papi_Chulo

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  11 years ago

  “… @Papi if a 13-year-old ends up in the hospital because you let him drive your car "well he wanted to" would not work as a defense …” I don’t think your comment correlates to my post. Yes – an underage girl should not be dancing in a SC (forced or o/w) – but the dancer in question did submit fake IDs so I don’t think the club may be liable if she lied. My post had to do w/ many of these young women being portrayed as absolute unwilling victims where it seems they know what they are doing (and are old enough to know what they are doing) and it seems more often than not they are willing and wanting to do it. This does not mean than anyone pimping out an underage girl, or any woman/person, should not be prosecuted for it even if the pimpee was willing to partake.
• Cheo_D

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  11 years ago

  Well, in the case of minors, remember that under the law they are incapable of valid consent to begin with, so by definition that makes them "victims" in the eyes of the Law -- IF there's a perp to be a victim of (in this case, the pimp). Now as to the matter of ID and responsibility for verifying it I can imagine the club arguing that "hey, all we're required to do is ask for ID and keep it on file; we don't get to rent a police station/gun store computer terminal to run an instant background check"; and the authorities saying "hey it's not the first time, a reasonable person would have taken steps".
• Dougster

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  11 years ago

  George - even if you are just talking about physical coercion I still say holding someone captive and forcing them to water flowers all day would, rightfully not be judged as harshly as forcing them into prostitution. For instance, there is no chance of STDs from the former and the psychological trauma, all though still bad due to the captivity and boredom would be less than effectively being raped multiple times a day on top of it,
• ilbbaicnl

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  11 years ago

  @Papi I agree that portraying adolescent girls as never wanting NSA sex with boys or men, and never wanting to use their sexual power over boys and men is very counterproductive. Adolescents girls need support and advice to deal with such feelings. It doesn't help to give them the message that they are freaks or bad for having these very common feelings.