I'm going to end up getting played arent I?
kingcripple
Texas
Monday, December 31, 2012 2:39 PM
Friday I invited my ATF to watch the JDS/Velasquez fight with me the following night downtown. She said she'd take me up on the offer providing that she was working. So I go down and see her the next evening for happy hour. She was on the fence because she had gotten to work two hours late but gave me her number to text or call. We talked a bit and currently are planning to do something this weekend. She has not yet told me any compensation she wants in return for her going out, said her boyfriend doesnt need to know her business and i swear i thought her say the term "other johns". That one threw me off. I have never done this before, asking out a stripper, so I am curious is she going to at the last minute tell me to give her like $400 or something to go out? I am not expecting sex or anything but am new to this whole OTC thing. will she spring a hourly rate on me last minute?
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It would suck to get stiffed on an event like that.
Good luck.
Especially if she has a bf; most likely she is not looking to “date†someone else and just “dates†other “johns†b/c the guy she fucks (i.e. the bf) probably doesn’t have two pennies to rub together and she is the bread winner.
You need to ask her straight out. If you don’t have the balls, or experience, to know how to be straight up with a dancer, be careful – you may not be ready for the ride.
I “think†you are treating your potential “date†with her as if you were dating a civilian. Is your interaction w/ dancers in the SC the same as your interaction w/ women in other settings, most likely not – thus I would not expect my interaction w/ the dancer OTC to be as it would be with a civilian.
My 2 cents.
You would be getting played if you think it is something that is not such as her genuinely wanting to go out w/ you w/o any form of compensation – it can happen – but not the norm IMO.
If she really wanted to date you, she would not be “on the fenceâ€.
You may also perhaps get a “free†date w/ her- but this may just be a way of her reeling you in as a potential future side income, IMO.
She “could†want to date you for real – but most dancers hook up with customers purely for additional income purposes .
I also think that many a dancer actually look down on SC goers and view them as not dating material – sounds odd I know – but I’ve heard from various dancers (i.e. dancers saying they would not date a guy that goes to SCs).
I have gotten plenty of phone #s from dancers and them telling me to call them; hardly any of them tell me, “call me and we’ll do this for this much†– it is kind of implied.
Their purpose for interacting w/ men is for $$$, is what they do – they hardly ever hook up w/ guys b/c “they like themâ€; especially SC customers. They usually have the guy “they like†(or like to fuck for free) already – and like I said b/f, most dancers do not see customers as potential dates, they see them as sources of income, and the more a dancer thinks you/I are into her, the more $$$ she can get from you, in her eyes.
It is natural to feel awkward about telling a woman – “do you want $$$ in order to go out with me†– but really, are our interactions w/ dancers “normal†or more precisely “the norm†– don’t think so, IMO.
If you are not sure, just ask her politely – something along the lines of “don’t mean to offend you, but do I need to pay you for your time on our date?â€. She is a dancer; she is the sex business; she already gets paid to spend time with guys; I don’t think she would be out of this world offended if you asked.
She gets busted and needs to "cooperate" with the popo, she'll be callin you to the jail cell with a solicitation charge and us posting your picture in a thread.
I'm talking about, zero money given to her, don't buy her drinks, NOTHING.
Otherwise of course she's seeing you as a customer and a way to get money.
The one thing you can depend on for sure is that you can’t depend on a dancer.
Most of these girls have a lot going in on in their lives; often a lot of drama.
They have life issues and responsibilities outside the club; and if she already has a bf, which most do, then it makes things more complicated.
As to her not going to the SC to be with you instead; a good dancer in a good club can make more in her shift than on a OTC date (unless you are planning to spend $500 or more on her). Also, if she can see you on her off time, she can both make the money from her shift, and from you.
I don’t think most dancers will not go into their scheduled shift, especially on the highest earning night of the week (Sat.), to go on an OTC date – but I could be wrong.
It could also be that it may be P4P and the OP is worried that if it turns out that way, then he may be in over his head?
I appreciated her honesty, had a real nice night, but ended up at home at midnight boopiing the baloney. Several nights later I spent an hour in VIP with her and her naked body running itself up and down on me nearly put me over the top. Once again, home for a quick date with Mary Palm and her 5 sisters. She wants another "date", and I don't know where it leads - if she's testing me or what. But at least all is above board
I do think that if one is at least 10 years older than the dancer, it is much much more likely that the dancer will only hang with the custie b/c she’s getting paid.
I can see a dancer wanting/willing to hang with a custie that is about her age and they have similar interests - although I still hold to the default view that she more likely wants to hook up to make some side cash.
But the fact that the dancer in question said she has a bf makes me think that her “dating†other guys is not in the normal non P4P sense.
What's the Shadowcat phenomenon? I haven't heard brag about hanging with strippers for free.