Sad day brothers
mrrock
Arizona
Well I just broke it off with my first OTC girl. She gave too many headaches and hassles and I couldn't take it anymore. Whether you like it or not you do form some kind of a bond with these girls so its still kinda sad. Almost like the breaking up of a real relationship. :(
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Get her out of your mind – go to the SC tonight if you can and enjoy yourself.
You never had it to begin with. If you gotta give her a $100 or pay her rent or cell phone bill....she's not your bitch...you're her bitch.
You think she's spending time (in between blowing the other dudes) telling them about how broke up she is that she needs to start paying her own cell phone bill??
Okay, bad example...she probably is...but still.
Well...how do I get that action!!? I could use the money I make to go to the club!
Especially for the jestie-girl!
But when people spend time together they gain affinity and hopefully there is something they like about each other, especially under the intimacy of a sexual relationship. You guys do realize to men sex is probably the most important thing to them?
Anyway as a relationship goes on it carves deep memories in the brain. Kind of like a goat path so to speak. Once these memories are imbedded they do not just go away when the person goes away.
They are WHORES. They provide you attention...for a fee. If you think they care about you...ask them to do it for free. Odds are, that relationship ends in less than 3 weeks tops...and that only if you're hung and good looking. These are not "girls", these are not "puppies"....these are not "good women that got bad breaks". And for every one that is...theres 12 that aren't.
And like a female friend told me...strippers HATE you. They may hide it well...but they HATE your guts. They blame YOU for "making them" get naked and dance around for money. YOU're the enemy. Which is why, once they have your cash...they are either on to the next John or hiding out in the back room on their cell phones.
Its okay to have fun and believe the fantasy...thats one of the great parts of clubbing. It's fine to let them lie to you...but dont lie to yourself man.
Men value sex FAR more than most women do. Top to bottom, side by side comparison...not even close. Any woman that says, "I'm the exception"...let her live with me for 3 weeks...by the 3rd week I'm sure I'll hear, "Seriously! All you think about is sex! Is that all I mean to you!?" Game over. And yes.
There is no fantasy for me. I don't give a fuck if they think I'm awesome or the biggest piece of shit in the world. As long as I enjoy my time with them, then who gives a fuck? If suddenly I didn't get to spend time with anymore I would regret that. That doesn't make me pathetic, clueless or desperate, it makes me a normal person.
I'd also be sad if my barber retired, he's good at what he does and his jokes are fucking hilarious.
Neither myself or any other customer "MAKES" them get Topless, naked or dance or go into VIP Rooms. I am quite curious as to where you came up with that bit of reasoning, if it can be called reasoning at all.
Regarding hating, do you read minds Leonard313? Unless you can read minds, I doubt you know what anyone is thinking.
Word it that Leonard313 tried to read Alutard's mind, but was foiled because alutard doesn't have one!
While I agree that I've never met a straight girl with a sex drive as high as my own, us oversexed gay girls are certainly the exception to the above claim. I suspect my heightened libido is a result of my lust for women, much like a straight man would experience. Maybe females who chase pussy, have higher sex drives than straight woman who chase dick. Who knows.
to me this reinforces my thought that women are too lazy for their own good in my opinion
Probably true in some cases, certainly not true in others. I've met far too many who like the job, from both sides of the "extras" line, to believe something that one sided.
They may not all love it, and some of them are certainly better actors than others, but the ones how really do hate it don't last long, IME. That kind of feeling can't be hidden for long, especially in the strip club world, and us pathetic losers will eventually notice and avoid such people.
There are some who don't hate their job (merely dislike it). Some have claimed to actually like it. Maybe true, but hard to believe, and, if so, I think the likeable days die off pretty quickly, then it's just a job they feel trapped in.
So even though his statement is not true about every single one of them, strippers do tend to be pretty hateful creatures. Their job is pretty lowly regarded by society and, often themselves, so they are looking for others to look down upon to make themselves feel better. And who better than loser customers who have to pay for it? But then, often, they are either jerking or sucking these loser guys off or fucking them, so that attitude only ends up compounding their internal hatred.
As for this statment:
gmd: "They may not all love it, and some of them are certainly better actors than others, but the ones how really do hate it don't last long"
You have got to be kidding! I think it's the other way around. The longer they have done the job the more likely they are to hate it. Ain't no stripper more likely to be completely consumed by hatred than the lifers. Somehow they can hide it from most customers I guess, and they also do extras so they get by, but, to me, I can detect their hatred oozing out of them in the first minute of talking of them. Not sure how others do not pick up on it.
So why do they continue in a job they hate when the rational thing to do is get out? I think it's just what they are used to. Feeling trapped in a situation/life they hate but suffering through it.
IME, it's actually the more balanced non-hateful ones who will bail on it quite early before it ever turns into something they hate. So the selection effect is mostly the opposite of what GMD is describing.
Yes, some of the ones who have been around a while are not the hateful ones, but that's not how it typical plays out.
I know I've seen a lot of faces come and go at the local clubs. The ones who've been there the longest seem to like it, or at least tolerate it well. The ones who seem to hate it, or grow to hate it after a while, never seem to last for very long past the point where the hate creeps in. My observation is, of course, anecdotal. It is, however, direct observation.
Yes, there are a few. I've met a few here and there who stay on for reasons I cannot even begin to understand. Intellectually, yeah, I get that they have few other prospects and they perceive that this is all they have, but I *don't* get how they can take doing something they so obviously detest.
For me, their attitude simply screams "don't come near me, I'm a poisonous bitch who will ruin your night", and while I suppose there might be a PL desperate for some company or a blowjob that will sit with them, but if it's common, then perhaps I'm simply more sensitive to that sort of thing than most.
Maybe their attitudes are simply not noticed by their customers, or the customers like being around hatred radiators, or their plight ellicits sympathy, but like you I pick up on it quickly and will send them away in the first minute.
I guarantee you this stripper will call you again, they always do. I love it! You've got to always remember that you have the money, and regardless of what they tell you, that's ultimately what they want.
If you play your cards right, you'll meet someone hotter and nicer within a few days.
One of those people, would steal your money if you left it on the seat next to you. One of them wouldn't.
And before it makes everyone's heads explode..."generalizations" are by definition not "100%" true. I realize and admit that. But if you're sitting there disputing the statements I made because you once met a nympho or you dated one of 2 strippers in your state that are actaully normal...you're not really making a very good case against what I'm stating...kinda making my case for me.
And no....it did not support your case at all. In fact it pretty much reinforced ours.
Back to my main point: as long as you get a generally positive experience out of the relationship, regardless of what the type, it's perfectly normal to feel negative emotions if it stops. Not pathetic, human.
In regards to 'generalizations' many on this site, yourself included apparently, suggest that the vast majority of dancers fit into them. Even if they really think it's only 98% I still argue that's ridiculously high. Either they are from an area that is far outside the norm and aren't willing to consider regional differences, or they WANT to believe that it's that way for their own personal reasons.
Jobs that consist of working directly w/ people (i.e. customers) are often the most frustrating and emotionally taxing IMO – and one could say that stripping is the ultimate “dealing w/ people†job.
Then, a few years ago, I decided to start patronizing a local club in between road trips and my opinions on this changed a bit. After 15+ years of dodging this issue, I finally found myself with a favorite. I enjoyed visiting her in the club and also enjoyed the OTC. After a year, she retired and I will readily admit that I did miss my interactions with her.
Human beings are complex creatures and, regardless of the transactional nature of a relationship, intimacy can lead to a certain amount of comfort and even affection. Feeling a bit of loss over losing someone with whom you spent time, and perhaps developed a certain level of comfort, is natural.
At the end of the day, you just gotta' shrug it off and look for the next candidate. ;)