Privacy - Do you believe in it or NOT?
Alucard
It seems privacy is a value and concept NOT valued by some members at TUSCL. You welcome & applaud persons who VIOLATE privacy. You heap scorn on the victim(s)
This IMO speaks badly of you as supposedly civil people, in that you possess NO respect for someone else's privacy. It speaks equally badly of the upbringing you received in that the virtue and value of privacy was apparently not instilled in you by your parents. I was taught the value of privacy by my parents and it's importance.
As far as I am aware there is no Rule by the Founder regarding the posting of PMs in the public area. Members are supposedly on their Honor to keep Private Messages {PMs} private. It seems to be the whole point of a private message system. If PMs can't/won't be kept confidential, then IMO the Founder should simply eliminate the PM system.
I believe many of you would be talking a different tale should your privacy be violated. I'd love to be standing there to experience your reaction to having your privacy violated.
Those of you who obviously don't believe in privacy &/or don't respect the concept of privacy, try living in a society WITHOUT privacy. I don't believe you would like it at all. It's an important concept to be fought for and preserved in our country's society. Violations however small are important, because small violations turn into LARGE ones.
I'd like to hear from those of you who at least agree with some of what I've said.
I know the vile ATTACK DOGS both male and female will be heaping more scorn & doing more attacking. It is their nature, a Zebra can't change it's stripes and these "persons" won't or can't change their nature. Not sure about those members who appear to be TOTALLY indifferent to the idea of personal privacy.
Thus far I am disappointed that more of the Adult members haven't expressed support for privacy, either privately &/or in public. I'll go things alone if I must.
THX to those who have expressed support.
Sincerely - Alucard
This IMO speaks badly of you as supposedly civil people, in that you possess NO respect for someone else's privacy. It speaks equally badly of the upbringing you received in that the virtue and value of privacy was apparently not instilled in you by your parents. I was taught the value of privacy by my parents and it's importance.
As far as I am aware there is no Rule by the Founder regarding the posting of PMs in the public area. Members are supposedly on their Honor to keep Private Messages {PMs} private. It seems to be the whole point of a private message system. If PMs can't/won't be kept confidential, then IMO the Founder should simply eliminate the PM system.
I believe many of you would be talking a different tale should your privacy be violated. I'd love to be standing there to experience your reaction to having your privacy violated.
Those of you who obviously don't believe in privacy &/or don't respect the concept of privacy, try living in a society WITHOUT privacy. I don't believe you would like it at all. It's an important concept to be fought for and preserved in our country's society. Violations however small are important, because small violations turn into LARGE ones.
I'd like to hear from those of you who at least agree with some of what I've said.
I know the vile ATTACK DOGS both male and female will be heaping more scorn & doing more attacking. It is their nature, a Zebra can't change it's stripes and these "persons" won't or can't change their nature. Not sure about those members who appear to be TOTALLY indifferent to the idea of personal privacy.
Thus far I am disappointed that more of the Adult members haven't expressed support for privacy, either privately &/or in public. I'll go things alone if I must.
THX to those who have expressed support.
Sincerely - Alucard
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I consider everything else I do or say on this site private because it is anonymous. I would not participate on TUSCL or any other site unless it was anonymous.
I also know that EVERYTHING I write on this site, including PMs is now in the public domain but still anonymous because so very few fellow TUSCL members know so little about me.
So while I value my privacy tremendously I also recognize the fact I cannot control the actions of others. I have had personal e-mails forwarded without my prior knowledge or approval in my professional life, it sucks. Technology is potentially detrimental to all of us. Use it wisely my friends.
And I couldn't give a flip what anyone I don't know and will never meet thinks about me or anything I do, say, or stand for. Oh, wait, everything on here is a work of fiction, so all is well.
Now if she had posted his name, his pictures, his address, phone number, social security number, credit card numbers, name of ex-gfs and why they broke up with him (oops, he has none of those so n/m that point) then how serious an offense? 99? 100? Yeah, I'd but that.
How about this case. I would say 4, 7, maybe 10 tips. What says the rest if you? And what's says you, drac?
This is the Alucard I know. I didn't believe them when they said you insulted that girl, I know you'd never do such a thing. And yes, privacy is great. And yes, you still have your privacy. It was a PM, under a made up username, on a site NOT EVERYONE takes so seriously. But, it's the principle, right? She shouldn't have done it. And no, we don't need another Troop/Doc situation (as entertaining as it was).
You could've saved a bunch of paragraphs by just calling us "a bunch of miscreants!".
It's gonna be okay...okay.
Everthing you said is true.
However, I also think there is such a thing as good judgment and kittykate did not exercise that. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
She did admit to not knowing "the rules" and apologized. Props for that.
I'm with Drac on this one.
I also maintain my own, and don't expect others to respect it unless they've demonstrated their willingness to do so.
I think it's that he went to looking for some empathy for his beliefs from a stripped who just ended up kicking him in the nuts instead. So funny it makes me LMFAO!
I agree with the original statement, I don't think PM's should be public but I think it's a rookie mistake.
It's all moot though, we're overrun with people using multiple accounts and other trolls. They'll be no kind of decorum.
On the OTHER hand, I always PM with caution. Thinking back to all the stories about the craigslist blow ups and how EASY it is to blow up privacy over the net, I try to put everything I say in a cautionary state of mind, since I don't want to end up like Alucard there. I don't know who started PMing who, but apparently anger overrode caution but in this case, it's not much of a problem since they're talking about their views and nothing truly detrimental has been shown. not so much different on the other hand is it.
By the end of the day, PM exist for a reason. I'd like to PM in the comfort of knowing my messages will stay that way; private. BTW dougster, what reason did you have to call him a little bitch. he did not provoke you, he hasn't said anything to you. Because he did not respond to you? Aren't you being hypocritical right now
Thanks for asking though!
(And of course he was alluding to me ad an attack dog - I kinds like the title to answer your other question.)
And Dougster, I would never publish your real name. Even if you really pissed me off I wouldnt do it.
Besides, according to you guys any breach of privacy is as serious as a complete one so even if she just reported that I said "hi" it would be as serious as publishing my full name. Also according to you guys, you take full responsibility for protecting your privacy and just assume that any information they know will they will make public.
So I was behaving completely consistent with the principals supposed being argued here. Only thing is that nobody cares about principles. They will argue one set of principles one way against one person and the complete opposite against someone else, just depending how they feel about that particular person. The principles are just tools for saying "I like this person" or " I do not like this person" and the principles can go either at the drop a hat. Not do they have a good enough memory to remember what their supposed principles were in the past.
Anyway bottom line to this thread.
Alucard will argue that he is the staunchest most consistent privacy guy in the world one day, but then argue to just not worry about it another day depending on whom he is arguing with.
He has no real convinction one way or another and is a massive hypocrite. Like I said before the issue for him is not privacy at all here. It's that he tried to suck up to a stripper to get some compassion for his miserable point of view, but rather than compassion, all he got was a kick in the nuts that he so richly deserved.
Hint to alucard: in the future maybe send her some money via paypal first in the future before you PM and promise to keep up weekly payments and your response may have been more favorable. "Oh, poorly alucard. I totally get where you are coming from..."
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I laugh at the idea that this is some major serious breech and invasion of privacy. boohoo. you fake name with a throwaway email was outed as the douchebag we already know you are. Big invasion of privacy. Expecting privacy when talking to a stripper you don't know is about as stupid as it gets. But thats alucard, all his interaction is with strippers, its all he knows and he still made a stupid mistake like this. The only conclusion can be the guy is pure stupid. How else do you explain somebody who rails against trolls being the biggest one on here?
Shut the fuck up Alucard. If you weren't such a douchebag, you wouldn't be having these problems. You create them, you deal with the blowback asshole.
The rest of you should realize when you pm someone, especially if you do so with the intention like Alucard has, you're taking your privacy desires out of your hands and if the recipient doesn't appreciate your invasions of their privacy by sending them an unwanted PM in the first place, they may just pull out the ol strapon and fuck you back.
Vile ATTACK DOGS! Everywhere!
LOL!
Got to agree with Drac on this rare, lucid statement.
BTW, I am not followng you, I merely happen to view threads that you bump. When that is just about all that shows up on the first pages in Discussions, one cannot help reading your lameass attempts to call attention to yourself. That, along with you stalking alutardo makes you the homo (apologies to txtittyfag) stalker.
Sorry, our government already destroyed our right to privacy and is working on destroying all our other rights. Our government probably is even recording everything I type and never post unless they haven't gone there yet.
They are working on removing guns too. All in the name of destroying whatever rights we used to have. Apparently our government doesn't care if we keep secrets from each other though.