Are We the Only Ones Who Would Like to See Some Artistic Dancing?

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m00tpoint
We will admit to being fairly new to the whole strip club thing. In addition, we are a couple (man and woman) who like to visit together. We expected to see more artistic dancing and some pride in performance. However, this seems to be mainly missing from the majority of clubs and dancers we have experienced. I understand Las Vegas has more "show quality." We think that many entertainers are missing the boat on a boatload of $ by not having a gimmick that sets them apart. IE, Sexy Secretary, Dark Lolita, etc. (In New Orleans we saw one gorgeous middle eastern looking woman who danced covered in scarves and removed them setting herself apart from the rest and she was quite sought after.) Are we the only ones who miss this?

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Clubber
14 years ago
As an old-timer, basically, a lost art.
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samsung1
14 years ago
I would prefer them to just walk around fully nude but that is just me.
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SuperDude
14 years ago
Most dancers just do a lazy walk around the stage for three songs, assuming that a routine display of physical charms will sell LDs. Artistic expression, imagination or even sensuality are rare. The stage show is a flat billboard ad.
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jackslash
14 years ago
Artistic performances suck. Girls, just get those clothes off fast!
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georgmicrodong
14 years ago
No, you're not alone. I also like the more artistic dances (as long as the artistry also involves nudity). I'm not going to lament the loss too much; nudity by itself is good, too.
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vincemichaels
14 years ago
Well,mOOtpoint go to a club where there is a feature entertainer, then. They will have stage shows. I'd say most of us want to see them naked, but I enjoy a good stage show too. And then, there are the extras. . . . .
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gatorfan
14 years ago
Artistic dancing? You want to see ballerinas?
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farmerart
14 years ago
I enjoy the fine stage dancing in Alberta SCs but that is ALL that I enjoy about Alberta's lame clubs.
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sinclair
14 years ago
Nowadays, it is all about selling lappers and extras. Most girls can't stage dance or pole dance worth a shit. Lots of dancers do not even like going on stage: get topless and naked while most patrons just gawk, modest tips at best.

There are exceptions. I was at a club earlier this year where a 10 got up on stage and made $250-300 in singles and fives in just two songs. I couldn't believe it. Lots of highrollers trying to one-up each other I guess.
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shadowcat
14 years ago
I can only remember seeing one that really put on a show. Her stage name was Lil Bit. She was very tiny. This was at the Memphis Plastinum Plus. Maybe 10 years ago. I could not get close to the stage to tip her.
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Dudester
14 years ago
For artistic dancing, there are burlesque clubs. Burlesque is an accepted rising art form. Most strip clubs are bordellos in disguise. Most "dancers" don't really understand dance. They were raised in an age of hip hop and don't begin to understand waltz, cha cha, and salsa. Those have been relegated to the burlesque shows and some TV programs.
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how
14 years ago
Nothing wrong with some entertaining and sexy artistic dance, but the purpose of the SC experience these days is intercourse.
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lopaw
14 years ago
Artistic stage shows are all great and good, but what I've found too often is that the artistic dancing on stage translated into artistic dancing in the lap dance booth, which wasn't what I was looking for.
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m00tpoint
14 years ago
Sensuality beats plain grinding in our books every time. We are well acquainted with burlesque but that is not what we meant by "artistic." For instance, in New Orleans, one tall athletic blonde dancer exuded great sensuality and clearly showed she understood sexy. Many of her dance moves replicated a woman in the throws of orgasm - the arching of the back in conjunction with tension in the rest of her body, the closed eyes and slightly parted lips, the deep breath and shudder as she pinched her own nipples, etc.

And, even in lap dances, a pure and simple mechanical grinding is not very satisfactory to a lot of customers. In order to be a top earner, a dancer has to be able to sell that she likes what she is doing. A strippers identity can set her apart from the other dancers and make her memorable.

As the musical Gypsy said,sometimes, "You gotta get a gimmmick if ya wanna get ahead."
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m00tpoint
14 years ago
Sensuality beats plain grinding in our books every time. We are well acquainted with burlesque but that is not what we meant by "artistic." For instance, in New Orleans, one tall athletic blonde dancer exuded great sensuality and clearly showed she understood sexy. Many of her dance moves replicated a woman in the throws of orgasm - the arching of the back in conjunction with tension in the rest of her body, the closed eyes and slightly parted lips, the deep breath and shudder as she pinched her own nipples, etc.

And, even in lap dances, a pure and simple mechanical grinding is not very satisfactory to a lot of customers. In order to be a top earner, a dancer has to be able to sell that she likes what she is doing. A strippers identity can set her apart from the other dancers and make her memorable.

As the musical Gypsy said,sometimes, "You gotta get a gimmmick if ya wanna get ahead."
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m00tpoint
14 years ago
How -

Appreciate your comment but not all customers expect or are even looking for intercourse at a strip club. Just not the case. If that was the case, they could call an escort service and spend less. SC are, and always will be, about illusion.
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mmdv26
14 years ago
@m00tpoint. Even the customers have gotten lazy. Sometimes it's a lot easier to go to a strip club and have sex sitting up on a couch than to go through all the BS associated with hooking-up with an escort these days.
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m00tpoint
14 years ago
I guess our main point is: if clubs are going to hire all different body types because clientele has different taste, then can't they hire some decent dancers and entertainers who actually know now to entertain instead of just lie on her back and shake her legs or walk around a pole?
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Clubber
14 years ago
m00,

A sensual, erotic, exotic, sexual, whatever dance, to me, is preferable to the I'll show you my T&A anytime. Now that doesn't mean I don't care for the "here are my T&A dances". Each of us have our preferences. I am still looking for my holy grail, Asian, beautiful, intelligent, personality, sexual, etc. Oh and hates money. :)
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vincemichaels
14 years ago
LMAO, Clubber. I met several Asian women at the race yesterday. Want their phone numbers??
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georgmicrodong
14 years ago
m00tpoint wrote "...but not all customers expect or are even looking for intercourse at a strip club. Just not the case. [...] SC are, and always will be, about illusion."

While that statement may be true for a majority of strip club patrons, it is demonstrably *not* true for a significant number of others, myself included. Based on my observations at some local clubs, actual, not illusory, sex is in fact the primary goal of going to a strip club. That may not be true for all cities (and isn't even true for all clubs in Louisville), but I can't imagine that we're all that unique in that regard here.

m00tpoint also wrote "If that was the case, they could call an escort service and spend less."

If you want a rundown on the reasons why some of us believe that strip clubs are at *least* as attractive an option for sex as escorts, I suggest you post another discussion. It's been covered many times before, but I'm sure you'll get some responses even so.
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gatorfan
14 years ago
artistic lying thieving whores wow
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Clubber
14 years ago
vm,

Sure, especially if they have a way to fly me up there or they will fly this way. :)
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sharkhunter
14 years ago
The battle of the Masters at the Masters Club in Myrtle Beach has a lot of 15 minutes shows they put on in late summer and they film it and put it on DVD. I think they still do that. My first visit there they were doing nothing but these shows. I prefer just seeing a bunch of naked girls gyrating around up close at times. I don't care for shows. Of course that is one club that offers nothing but shows during the event they hold. That is if they still have it. My subsequent visits to the same club I made sure they were not having the battle of the Masters. I'd rather see 6 naked girls on stage at one time rather than one girl doing a show for 15 minutes plus some costume that takes 10 minutes to take off.
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sharkhunter
14 years ago
Feature entertainers will often do a show. If you want to watch a show and are tired of all the normal gyrating around on stage and just naked girls. I'll watch if the girl is hot. I once saw one of the tallest dancers in the world performing a show with fireworks and a very large sword. Combine a large dancer (but fit) on stage with a large sword and it becomes something you remember. There have been a few occasions where I did not think the feature entertainer was hot and instead I took advantage of the small crowd in the lap dance room to have more fun than watching another show.
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sharkhunter
14 years ago
I do not like shows where the dancer splashes things on me from the stage. On another occasion the dancer ripped my shirt open ruining a perfectly good dress shirt I was wearing. I did not like that. In other words, some shows can be hazardous. One time (among many) the feature was a porn star which I forgot. I enjoyed her show a little bit better than most since she made me part of her show. I'm just glad lipstick washes off of white shorts because they were completely red all over the front.
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LeeH
14 years ago
vincemichaels: "go to a club where there is a feature entertainer, then"

I think you misread his OP. He said he wanted to see artistic dancing. I've never seen a feature entertainer that could dance her way out of a wet paper bag.

Good luck finding an artistic dancer in a SC. MAYBE if you find one over 35, she won't look at you like WTF? I'll second the notion of burlesque.
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motorhead
14 years ago
I happened to catch a few minutes of "Forrest Gump" last night on TV (for the millionth time). By artistic dancing, do you mean like the scene of Robin Wright as "Bobby Dylan"?

Now Ms. Wright is kind of hot, but....

let's just say I'm glad it's not 1968 anymore.
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georgmicrodong
14 years ago
"let's just say I'm glad it's not 1968 anymore."

For reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with strip clubs, I agree completely. The *worst* year of my life, bar none.
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minnow
14 years ago
If OP wants to see more artistic performances, suggest that you and wifey go to ballet, "CDS", Vegas Show, or to clubs that specialize in features on feature night.
Understand that couples are a minority in stripclub, and target audience (single or unacompanied patrons) are more focused on potential laps/VIPS than seeing an artistic performance.
That said, I don't mind seeing a standout from the usual boilerplate walking around a pole, or swaying in front of stage mirror away from patrons. But as 1 poster said, distinct/unique stage performances don't always translate into desired performance in the back.
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Clubber
14 years ago
WHAT???? It isn't the 60's!!!!!!!!
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m00tpoint
14 years ago
As I suspected, most of the comments miss the entire point of the question. We were not talking about burlesque, nor were we looking for a return of the 60's. In fact, although we were both babies then, everything about them is awful to us!


Guess differences make the world interesting but seems like what is sexy to us is simply not the majority of what is in clubs. Glad we have found someone at our local club who fits the bill for us!
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LeeH
14 years ago
"As I suspected, most of the comments miss the entire point of the question."

Then why the hell did you ask? If I wanna get yelled at for doing my best but not giving the "right" answer, I'll go back to parochial school.
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m00tpoint
14 years ago
LeeH,

Thank you for your comments. Perhaps you should seek some counsel since you feel "yelled at"simply because someone posted a clarification and comment of their own.

We do not participate on here to try and make others feel badly or "yelled at." If we wanted to do that we could certainly post on any number of threads that we feel are in poor taste, excessively derogatory to women and in general make men appear to be the generic male asshole stereotype. We simply refrain from posting on those threads because each poster has a right to ask and say (within the guidelines of the site) what they think and feel. The same goes for us.
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LeeH
14 years ago
Ah, so "you missed the entire point" is a "clarification". Oh, that makes sense now. <insert eye roll here>
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LeeH
14 years ago
Ah, so "you missed the entire point" is a "clarification". Oh, that makes sense now. (insert massive eye roll here)
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LeeH
14 years ago
Ah, so "you missed the entire point" is a "clarification". Oh, that makes sense now.
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LeeH
14 years ago
Silly me - it never occurred to me that "you missed the entire point" was merely a "clarification".
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LeeH
14 years ago
"You missed the entire point" = "clarification"?
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LeeH
14 years ago
I have no idea why I have 5 posts here.
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m00tpoint
14 years ago
LeeH,

This is Mrs. m00tpoint. I am sorry that you feel the comment was directed at you. The original comment (pasted below) was posted to no one in particular. No where did anyone say YOU missed the point in the original post. Yes, after you reacted negatively there was a post directed to you but not before.

I quote:
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06/01/11 6:54 PM
As I suspected, most of the comments miss the entire point of the question. We were not talking about burlesque, nor were we looking for a return of the 60's. In fact, although we were both babies then, everything about them is awful to us!


Guess differences make the world interesting but seems like what is sexy to us is simply not the majority of what is in clubs. Glad we have found someone at our local club who fits the bill for us!

End quote.

Clearly, you were quite upset by the post given how many posts you made at different times. For that, I am truly sorry. Our goal is not to simply comment and give back to repay some of those who wrote reviews and articles from which we benefited.

Let's just end this and move on.
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steve229
14 years ago
@LeeH - just making friends all over the place, lol
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