Newbie advice, please!
idaho_75
Love those PNW girls <3
That being said, I am young, well-groomed, and polite. The girls usually go straight to the older guys in the club first, but definitely come to chat with me before the gangster and the college kids.
Here the clubs don't serve alcohol, but on my side of the Washington/Idaho border, the girls can get naked, and the big club here serves booze next door. I have a great time chatting, drinking, and getting lap dances from the girls, but I need some advice from some of the SC sages here.
I have had some offers for discounted trips to the champagne room, which I have always turned down for lap dances. The girls who make these offers usually give some DIRTY lap dances in comparison to girls who don't try to upsell the champagne room. Aside from some titty licking and grinding, that is about as nasty as the dances here seem to get. In your experiences, have the champagne room visits been better bang for the buck? Any caveats and warnings associated with the private rooms?
Likewise, now that some of the dancers are starting to recognize me around, some of the girls I have had dances with seem to look at me funny when I take a dance from a different girl. Any tips on avoiding the stripper drama? Or is it time to disappear from that club for a while? Is it better to visit on busy or quiet nights?
The girls at the clubs are not yet suctioning all my money out of my pockets when I go out clubbing, but I feel like my experiences could be richer than they already are with a few tips from the pros.
I recognize that these questions are subjective, and I have read a TON of the posts on TUSCL, but I would be grateful for any tips and hints, and thank you for your time.
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I once did an 8-hour shift (6pm to 2am, so I saw a good amount of primetime) at the main stage of The Spearmint Rhino tipping out the $1s. $200 in singles. But that was about the most continuous stream of eye candy I am ever likely to witness throughout my living days. I think all TUSCLers ought to do the same once. [Of course the gals and the house want you to spend the big dough on lappers and VIPs, but let the other PLs pay that cost!]<p>
Many, many times, the VIP is no better than the floor. Sometimes, though, it is much, much better.
Best bet is to go with your gut until you find a few that will do what you want / expect. At least then, you'll have a sure thing if you want it. Gamble when you feel like it.
If you're just looking for a longer version of what you're getting on the floor, then, depending on the price, itight be worth looking into. However, like others have posted, it might *not*; some girls are aggressive on the main floor, but then don't deliver even that level in the back. Your floor "dirty" dancer might turn into an air dancer in the back.
If you're looking to get off, then you have to be even more careful, unless it's a club known to be extras tolerant, or even friendly (see "Detroit"). Many girls will promise the moon, until your money is in their hands, then it's "I'm not a whore!"
A firm statement of her intentions for the VIP coupled with a clear statement on your part that the size of the tip, and followup business, is dependent on her following through with that commitment may help you get what you want. It might not, though.
I don't know anything about the clubs in your area, so you're going to have to be the judge of how likely you are to get what you want.
Some of the more remote clubs can be real gems. Can be good if local LE just don't care. My experience with champagne rooms is that there is even more security and you get the same or less in there in mileage.
In the right club, with the right girl, you might get lucky with just LDs. A good sign is a dancer that likes to take off your belt, unbutton some of your buttons, run her hands under your shirt, pinch your nipples, reach into your pants, move the g-string as she pushes her cootch into your face, untucks your dress shirt so that she can get her hands under the tails. I had a fav that knew how to get my head just above the waistband and she did a lot of quick licks when she could get away with it. One night she was especially frisky and inserted my fingers for an energetic fingerbang for a song or two (which she unmistakably enjoyed) and then took in the johnson for a short while until I saw two bouncers together looking our way and pointing. I didn't mind *her* getting a little possessive. But this was after several visits and we had spent some time together. It is fairly rare, but you can tell if there is a connection developing.
I don’t do VIPs in the club so I can’t comment on that aspect except to say that sometimes the rooms according to the dancers are not very spacious and the clock is running once you decide to go there. In a club, the VIP could cost $150 but the dancer might only see $80 of that and then you have to tip her at least another $100 on top of the $150. So you are talking $250 minimum for 30 minutes assuming the bouncer gives you the full half hour.
The alternative is to meet a dancer outside the club, which is what I do and that seems to work better. The dancers prefer it because they get more money and I don’t feel as pressed for time and it’s usually only $150 for a minimum of 1 hour.
There is another dancer who when I first met her suggested exchanging phone numbers and something about she lives fairly close to me. If she thought about hooking up at one time, I think she has grown more comfortable with me just routinely spending a little bit of money in the club on a couple of drinks and a couple of dances. Even though she seems to make a point to get to me all the time. She's hot so I guess I shouldn't complain. I heard if you routinely spend a lot of money on a dancer, she'll think of you as a customer and you're less likely to ever hook up with her. Most of the time if I hooked up with a dancer, things happened fairly fast after first meeting them. I guess things might be different if other guys are talking about paying a dancer like an escort service. I'm not.
2. Find out how the VIP charge is split between the house and the dancer (if it's split at all). This gives you negotiating leverage.
3. Don't make a sucker purchase, for example:
--$300 just for a Champagne Room/dances extra (or whatever price point is personally ridiculous)
--A VIP/Champagne/whatever room, with cameras (an excuse for not doing anything beyond the ordinary)
4. Be a consistent spender on the floor and dancers will deliver more for you consistently without having to pay more for a VIP room.
5. To avoid being cornered as a dancer's customer when you want to stay flexible, try using this escape:
--"can you introduce me to XXX? I'd like to spend some time with her today."
--"is XXX here today?. Can you send her over?
--I'd like to buy XXX a drink? Have you seen her?
...then add: "then I'd like to spend time with you again next time I'm hjere" Keep it simple, polite but very clear. It usually works.
If Miss Possessive can't take the hint, then simply reach out and politely pull over an appealing dancer to your space and ask if you can buy her a drink, that usually sends the right message.
say songs are $20 each (3min songs) and you want 10. Why not go into vip for 30mins at $200. same cost/time and be more comfortable with more privacy? As long as she is actually dancing in there or giving you your extras, there you go!