Might have a chance to fuck a dancer for the first time
Slin
All right boys, gather around. I have a story and since I have no other friends that have been in a similar situation, I've come to the source for SC veterans to hopefully get some advice.
I've never really been the type of guy to seek OTC stuff in a club. For me, going to a SC is just about getting a hot lap dance and nothing more. However, recently I had an interesting encounter that I think may lead to more.
At the club I frequent, there is a girl that just goes absolutely nuts on stage. A lot of the gals at this club have a tendency to shuffle around like (half naked) zombies but she really puts her whole spirit into it. One of her more note-worthy antics is to climb about 5 feet high onto a pole then proceed to do sit ups suspended in mid-air with only her legs clamped around the pole. She also had a bunch of rather randomly placed tattoos all over her body which just further emphasized that she was probably at least a bit loopy in the head.
My buddy noticed her energy and proceeded to get a couple of dances with her. After they were done, she brought her back to where I was sitting. He told me that she was awesome and that I should make use of her services. After thinking for a few seconds I decided to give her a spin.
And holy shit this chick was as nuts during private dances as she was on stage. She did things that I have never gotten from other girls like constantly biting my dick (through my pants of course) and playing with my balls. Even without the high level of contact I still would have had a good time because of her sensuality and energy.
I went back to my buddies and was hanging out with them some more. Later she came by to ask one of my friends if he wanted a dance. He agreed and I told him to bring her back after wards. Once they were done, it was my turn again. Before my second dance started I said "All right this is my last one for now so just finish me off". I meant it as a figure of speech but she must have taken it literally because she told me she was going to make me cum. She then proceeded to give me the most intense lap dance I have ever gotten. She was biting me all over my upper body and started whispering dirty ass shit in my ear like "I want the tip of your cock in my mouth. Cum for me, I want you to cum for me" etc. etc. However, the DJ proceeded to cockblock me by calling her up to dance on the stage. Before she left she was like "Yeah sorry I couldn't make you cum. I could tell you were pretty close though". She then said we had good chemistry together during dances. I said in a joking manner "How many guys have you said this to tonight?" She said "I only say it to some people, not everyone". Then she left to do her rounds on the stage.
A little later, right my party was going to leave I decided to get one final dance from her. During this dance, she started talking a lot more. She asked me "Where are you from? Staten Island?" I said that I was from NJ and that's why I had to leave to catch the train back. She then said that if I was willing to wait for her shift to end at 4 am, she could drive me to wherever I had to go. I (half)-jokingly said that I was afraid that something bad was going to happen and that I was going to end up on the front page of the New York Post the next morning. I made a few jokes about how she's trouble but she seemed to be getting upset about this. So I say "Hey I'm sure there's a good girl in you somewhere" She replied with "She's standing in front of you" and danced a bit more before going back to bombarding me with questions. She asked me what I did for a living and then if I had a girlfriend. I said no and she asked me why. I said it was because I didn't get out much. She replied with "No I know why you don't have a girlfriend. It's because you have ADD" (which made me go WTF for a second since this comment was totally out of left field) She then said "I think we should be friends. My real name is Linda. Let me give you my number." Needless to say I was totally shocked and proceeded to give her my digits. I called her phone so she would have mine number. Her phone went off and I managed to catch a glimpse of her background pic. It was a picture of what I presumed to be her family. It was a picture of a few women wearing Muslim headscarves LOL (her parents were from Morocco though she grew up in Queens).
When I did call her though, she didn't respond. Now I'm trying to figure out what is going on. Do you guys think she's trying to ho herself out on the side or does she have some other plan? How should I proceed in order to get some stripper pooty?
I've never really been the type of guy to seek OTC stuff in a club. For me, going to a SC is just about getting a hot lap dance and nothing more. However, recently I had an interesting encounter that I think may lead to more.
At the club I frequent, there is a girl that just goes absolutely nuts on stage. A lot of the gals at this club have a tendency to shuffle around like (half naked) zombies but she really puts her whole spirit into it. One of her more note-worthy antics is to climb about 5 feet high onto a pole then proceed to do sit ups suspended in mid-air with only her legs clamped around the pole. She also had a bunch of rather randomly placed tattoos all over her body which just further emphasized that she was probably at least a bit loopy in the head.
My buddy noticed her energy and proceeded to get a couple of dances with her. After they were done, she brought her back to where I was sitting. He told me that she was awesome and that I should make use of her services. After thinking for a few seconds I decided to give her a spin.
And holy shit this chick was as nuts during private dances as she was on stage. She did things that I have never gotten from other girls like constantly biting my dick (through my pants of course) and playing with my balls. Even without the high level of contact I still would have had a good time because of her sensuality and energy.
I went back to my buddies and was hanging out with them some more. Later she came by to ask one of my friends if he wanted a dance. He agreed and I told him to bring her back after wards. Once they were done, it was my turn again. Before my second dance started I said "All right this is my last one for now so just finish me off". I meant it as a figure of speech but she must have taken it literally because she told me she was going to make me cum. She then proceeded to give me the most intense lap dance I have ever gotten. She was biting me all over my upper body and started whispering dirty ass shit in my ear like "I want the tip of your cock in my mouth. Cum for me, I want you to cum for me" etc. etc. However, the DJ proceeded to cockblock me by calling her up to dance on the stage. Before she left she was like "Yeah sorry I couldn't make you cum. I could tell you were pretty close though". She then said we had good chemistry together during dances. I said in a joking manner "How many guys have you said this to tonight?" She said "I only say it to some people, not everyone". Then she left to do her rounds on the stage.
A little later, right my party was going to leave I decided to get one final dance from her. During this dance, she started talking a lot more. She asked me "Where are you from? Staten Island?" I said that I was from NJ and that's why I had to leave to catch the train back. She then said that if I was willing to wait for her shift to end at 4 am, she could drive me to wherever I had to go. I (half)-jokingly said that I was afraid that something bad was going to happen and that I was going to end up on the front page of the New York Post the next morning. I made a few jokes about how she's trouble but she seemed to be getting upset about this. So I say "Hey I'm sure there's a good girl in you somewhere" She replied with "She's standing in front of you" and danced a bit more before going back to bombarding me with questions. She asked me what I did for a living and then if I had a girlfriend. I said no and she asked me why. I said it was because I didn't get out much. She replied with "No I know why you don't have a girlfriend. It's because you have ADD" (which made me go WTF for a second since this comment was totally out of left field) She then said "I think we should be friends. My real name is Linda. Let me give you my number." Needless to say I was totally shocked and proceeded to give her my digits. I called her phone so she would have mine number. Her phone went off and I managed to catch a glimpse of her background pic. It was a picture of what I presumed to be her family. It was a picture of a few women wearing Muslim headscarves LOL (her parents were from Morocco though she grew up in Queens).
When I did call her though, she didn't respond. Now I'm trying to figure out what is going on. Do you guys think she's trying to ho herself out on the side or does she have some other plan? How should I proceed in order to get some stripper pooty?
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BTW, when you wait for the end of the evening to give a girl a ride....that's usually it.
Finally, when you called her she did not respond. That's the strongest evidence it's not going anywhere.
You want stripper pooty? Why? LOL! As a rule, strippers have many issues. However, the approach is simple and direct. First you need a few hundred dollars and a place to take her. Then you need to go into a club and find her. Then you need to ask her.
I was thinking of just finding her next time I head to the club and asking if she was hustling me and then saying I'll spend money on her as long as she kept her dances just as hot they were before. Maybe I can make a monetary offer too for some OTC action?
Some guys will advise the direct approach--just ask her and set a time in a hotel room. When she doesn't show or refuses to go, then you'll know. I would advise playing along with the tease, spending no more than you want to and expecting nothing in return. When the tease has run its course, move on.
I think if you even HOPE to get any OTC, don't expect it. Don't appear to expect it. Certainly don't outright ask for it.
And as for her giving you her "real" name, it's probably another alias, unless she showed you her drivers licence. I had a dancer give me her real name and i am careful to assume she is honest. after all what girl needs a stalker?
I may be the youngest person to post on tuscl, but i certainly aint the dumbest
I'm posting because I know it's full of people who have managed to get OTC contacts so i'm hoping to get advice on how to pursue it without getting screwed over. What have your guys' experiences been?
All I can tell you is real simple. Every number that I've wanted and have gotten from a dancer has been real. Everyone of them has answered the phone or at least called me back. And the "relationship", as it was, continued. In your case, I tend to agree that she is playing you for $'s.
However, I'm mostly in agreement with harrydave on this one, i.e. she's employing typical stripper tactics to keep you interested and coming back to spend money on her. There is still a possibility, however small, that she's willing to take it up a notch, though.
Next time you see her, tell her you called and see what she says. If yours does, ask her if her phone plan allows text messaging (though you shouldn't commit to text anything you wouldn't want your mother to read), and use that next time; it's often easier for girls who do this sort of thing to text than it is to talk on the phone. I'm sure you can see why.
And to chime in on the other comments, it's time to put up or shut up, for both of you. See if she'll agree on a time, place and cost. If she does, see if she shows up. If she's vague about any of those, fails to show, pulls any crap about needing more money once you get there, or wanting it in advance, you'll know. As has been said so many times on these boards, don't pay until *after* you get yours, no matter how she whines, cries or complains, even if you've already paid for the hotel room.
One tactic that works for me in determining her seriousness is the next time I see her, I'll buy *one* dance or drink, and during that, steer the conversation over to "so, let's talk some more about that 'ride home'; what did you have in mind?" and see where that leads. If there's vagueness and avoidance, you're done. If she's talking specifics, try to set something up, or make arrangements for one of you to call the other. When you're done with the dance/drink, though, be done. Don't spend any more significant amounts of money on her. Stage tips, maybe another drink or two, but nothing more. Even leave the club. If she calls, or answers your call, later, then you might be on to something.
If the club at which she is working is extras friendly, i.e. no cameras, reasonably priced and private VIP/CR, no interrupting bouncers, etc, you *might* try seeing if she's willing to do something there for a reasonable price. Again, though, make sure you know what she's offering and what her "tip" is going to be up front and, even though you may have to pay for the VIP before going in, don't pay *her* unless, and until after, she delivers.
Remember, though, she could still be playing you, so you should be ready for her to start avoidance tactics at *any* stage of the game, regardless of how enthusiastic she's been up to that point. Right up to the moment your dick is poised at the opening you've agreed on, you should be prepared to hear some variant of "I don't know, maybe this isn't such a good idea."
It's also possible that she's just looking for either a boyfriend or a sugar daddy. You know what she does for a living. Do you want to get serious with someone who does that? Your call, there; that sort of thing isn't for me, but I'm not you. With regard to the latter, being a sugar daddy ain't so bad, as long as you're getting the sugar. I prefer paying as I go, though, it's easier to keep track of who owes who what and when. :)
As many have stated, BE CAREFUL. What are the chances that you are being played? ohh... probably around 97%.
I think there are a lot of good suggestions above, and GMDs response was certainly detailed enough to get you pointed in the right direction.
My question to YOU is, what are YOU looking for. Are you just looking for a fuck OTC, an OTC arrangement, or are you looking for a relationship? Your answer to that question pretty much determines in my mind, which way you should play this.
If you are looking for the fuck, visit her in the club and press her limits ITC, and if you don't get what you want, then proceed with the "so, about that ride home..." discussion with her and try to get something agreed upon.
If you are looking for an OTC arrangement (semi-long term), or an actualy relationship, IMO, you have to play it a little more gently. Establish a rapport with her, get to know her better, let her get to know you, and start proposing what you have in mind.
If you want a relationship - you want to date her, then I think we are all in agreement, RETHINK! As was wisely put, do you really want to date a stripper? (I may have to start a separate thread about that) I have done that.. with a two dancers, and MIGHT be heading for a third go at it) Trust is a biggie here. How can you EVER trust a girl who's job is to lie, act and take money for sexual acts? It's SERIOUSLY a tough road to travel.
stay ITC she still has to put the moves on you to get the cash, hte mystery and sexual play wil continue
Here's my current plan which was formed while taking in all the comments made on this thread:
1. Go into club next week (won't be able to do so this week like originally planned because of other engagements)
2. Find girl and ask her if she wants to get a drink. Once this happens, I'll talk to her and try to read her a bit more and to also build rapport.
3. Get dances; at the end of the dances ask her what she is doing after wards and if she wants to meet up. If she says no, then that's the end of that and I'll be perfectly happy to just keep this as a "in club regular" relationship. If she agrees to meet up, then proceed to the next step.
4. If we meet up outside of the club, then that's the moment of truth. I'll ask her straight up what she is looking for. Depending on her response, we will proceed from there.
Some things to keep in mind:
- No GIFTS of any sorts to her unless we have already established what I will receive in return. No shoes, clothes, jewelery, etc. etc. The only money I will spend on her is on dances which brings me to my next point...
- People have advised me not to purchase more dances because what she is hustling me to get more dances. Thing is, my typical style when I go to a strip club is to spend 90% of my money on a 3-4 girls that I know deliver good quality lap dances. If a girl dances good, then she'll keep my business without having to do any hustle. Even if this girl didn't pull all that SS (giving me her number, offering me a ride home) I would have continued to get dances from her during each subsequent visit just because her lap dances were so good. I have NO PROBLEM with having her as one of my regular dancers regardless of whether she is playing me or not.
Another note, this girl has only been working there for 3 months and her behavior (giving out her real name and number) seems to be consistent with girls that are new to the job.
After all, he said he just wants to bang her.
Once I saw her at the club, she asked me what I haven't called. I told her that I did call and she gave me a confused look. She then asked if I had texted her. I told her I did and showed her the text I sent. She went through her inbox and found it and saw that she had forgotten to add me. She added me and sent me a quick text just to test out if it works.
Later on we got a drink at the bar. There she talked about how she is working 6 times a week now (which a friend who gotten a dance before already told me) because apparently she lost a bunch of money on gambling and really needs money. She said once she isn't working so much, she's down to hang out. I didn't get the meet up afterward. I asked her if that offer for a ride home that she made on Saturday was still on the table. She said she didn't have to drive to work this night and that her cousin was driving her back. So yeah.
Got some dances from her after wards...wasn't as intense as it was before she said she apparently got into hot water with management for being too freaky. I get ready to leave and she tells me to text her when I get home to let her know that I'm safe.
So now I'm mostly sure that this is a hustle. Still, she's a good dancer so I'll still keep getting lap dances from her if I'm ever down there. Maybe I'll try for a meet up again in the future, who knows. Regardless, I'll enjoy the in club fantasy. Thanks to everyone gave advice.
If she doesn't send any messages out about her schedule, would that mean this could be legit? Like I said, I'm leaning towards this being a hustle but I'll stay open. I don't mind paying for dances with her as a regular customer. I will never be buying gifts for her and what not though.
Oh yeah, she's clearly off her rocker, a corn FLAKE girl who is FOS. Nevertheless, it hardly matters. Nearly all strippers will fuck for money, so why won't this one? Have fun!
It is a hustle. I've called/texted and got no answer. Then I went back to the club and called them out on it. They come up with excuses or claim they never got call/text. Trust me, all women in this age bracket are glued to their cellphones. They know you are calling but just don't care to answer unless you say something like, "What are your hours tonight, babe?
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If you do want to fuck her, try pressing her limits ITC, and ask straight-up for OTC. Or ITC, if that's feasible.
If you want to date her for real, you've probably already lost by being her customer.
Of course, you could PM me her name, club and schedule, and I could see what, if anything, works and let you know. :))
Me: You getting crazy snow up in NYC too?
Girl: Ya it's bad
Me: hahah i'm driving around at like 10 mph...feel like a little old Asian lady
Girl: lol
About a hour later I sent:
So how are things going with your right now
And that's it...don't know if this means anything
You and I fell for the exact same scam from the exact same lady. I knew it was Linda/Layla from Flash when you said Morrocan. She told me she's working 6 days a week because her Dad is sick and can't work and she's supporting the whole family. After 2 visits thinking the same thing you are thinking, I offered her $500 to spend the night with me, she declined. She did give me the greatest ld's of all time, that I will admit. And I'm not a kid, she's really good at the oldest game in the business " the stripper really digs me". She looked offended when I said that to her with a really big grin on my face.
Sorry dude, it's a game
Got any more stories regrading her? Maybe you can give write up a report like I did about your interactions with her...I'd imagine it would be helpful for all of us SC junkies on here.
after..........I responded by saying "Well I suck dick so you might be in trouble"
LOL.....you might have given of a gay vibe with these comments...just sayin!
That night I went to Flash with no intent of looking for her. She saw me when she was dancing and acted like she didn't recognize me (which at the time I figured she proablly didn't recognize me) An hour later she "bumped" into me and acted surprised and we chatted for awhile. I called her out on not replying to my texts, reminded her that it was her idea. "So busy, really sorry, etc ,etc". Then we had some LD's. When I tried to put my finger inside her she was like "what are you doing?!" Okay, she still gives great LD's. So I dropped a few more 20's and called it a night.
One really funny thing happened that night. While she was giving me a LD we overheard another girl using the same line on customer. You should have seen the look on Linda's face, it was soooo "bitch you're stealing my game". I knew what I needed to know, still love her LD's but her game makes me not want to see her although I still love Flash.
I didn't confront her in a combative way. Flash is a great place and I find myself there a few times a year and I don't want any static. She is a hall of fame dancer I just never got the point of the game, I was spending money and having a ball.
I couldn't believe it when I found this thread on the site. What are the odds of 2 people that troll around this site having the same experience with the same person. Especially since at Flash the average shift has 50 dancers.
Long live Linda, a lady that gave 2 creepers the best SC experience of their lives!
One of the things I mentioned in the article was how pointless it was for her to run all that stripper game since her dances and cool attitude in the club was already enough for me to make her one of my regular girls (I tend to spend 90% of my strip club money on the same 3-4 girls that I know are quality)
Well, I'll still be getting dances from her regardless. Now I can just enjoy them without having to waste any mental energy on wondering about what could be!
Some girls only have one game and it's probably as much a power trip for them as it is an exercise in profit maximization.
To all reading this you can't go wrong at Flash with Layla from Morocco, she's the best dancer in NYC.
I think your theory makes sense. I remember her thanking me after the first time I got dances with her for giving her a chance. The 2nd time I saw her at the club she said something about how some guys don't want her because of the type of look she has or something (tattoos all over the place). I guess when she does find a guy that does actually dig her she likes to lead him on to get the thrill of being desired.
I also remember her dancing on stage with a black girl once. There was a table of black guys that decided to make it rain for the black chick by tossing a huge stack of singles at her. Later on, Linda was bitching to me about how she was busting her ass on stage and getting nothing while that other girl was getting tons of bread for doing nothing.