The State of Mongering in Tijuana - Election Edition: Part I
l00ber
Tijuana and Detroit
This is a long ass post so I'll chop it up so that questions pertaining to specific sections won't get buried in unrelated comments.
With the Mexican Peso taking repeated hits over the last year from declining oil prices and fears of a Trump presidency, a group of TUSCLers along with myself opted to test out the Dollar's spending power in TJ over the last weekend. I will be posting reviews of all of the places we hit up in the individual clubs' sections. Read on for an overview of my opinions on vising TJ last weekend.
Should Trump happen to claim the US presidency, some fiscal analysts have estimated that the Peso could further slip another 30% or so. The exchange rate currently sits at about 18.5 Pesos to the dollar. A 30% drop would put it in the neighborhood of 24 Pesos to the dollar. The exchange rate when we visited adult Disneyland last weekend was around 19 Pesos to the dollar. To put this into perspective, the exchange rate was closer to 12 Pesos to the dollar last year. So you can buy far more food, booze, and sexy-times when going down to TJ with the same amount of money when compared to last year. This was the impetus for our trip.
There are numerous guides for first time mongers to help navigate San Diego International Airport down to America Plaza to the blue line down to San Ysidro across the border then hop a cab to Zona Norte. The wealth of information largely has not changed. The only thing to keep in mind is that the border crossing back stateside is currently split between a new PedWest station serving 6 lanes and the old crossing temporarily routed through an old building next to where the old crossing used to be.
Should you choose to utilize the PedWest crossing, you will need to take an 8 minute walk eastward to get back to where the blue line trolley heads back into San Diego. There are shuttles, cabs, and some buses where PedWest emerges into the US, but it's currently not as convenient as the old crossing. Most have reported that foot crossings back via PedWest is significantly faster though.
The PedWest crossing will be available for the next couple of years as both US and Mexican authorities build a new facility to process foot traffic where the old border crossing used to stand. For now, PedWest can only be used to cross back into the US. Mexican authorities claim that PedWest lanes heading into Mexico will open this December.
A big focus of this article should be on the current [highly favorable] exchange rate. Girls in Hong Kong (HK) used to want $70~100 for a half hour of their time. Most girls this trip were willing to take 800~1200 pesos, which would have amounted to roughly $70~100 USD last year. At last weekend's exchange rates, this was closer to $40~60. Pay in Pesos. This will be a recurring theme in the following posts. Stay tuned.
With the Mexican Peso taking repeated hits over the last year from declining oil prices and fears of a Trump presidency, a group of TUSCLers along with myself opted to test out the Dollar's spending power in TJ over the last weekend. I will be posting reviews of all of the places we hit up in the individual clubs' sections. Read on for an overview of my opinions on vising TJ last weekend.
Should Trump happen to claim the US presidency, some fiscal analysts have estimated that the Peso could further slip another 30% or so. The exchange rate currently sits at about 18.5 Pesos to the dollar. A 30% drop would put it in the neighborhood of 24 Pesos to the dollar. The exchange rate when we visited adult Disneyland last weekend was around 19 Pesos to the dollar. To put this into perspective, the exchange rate was closer to 12 Pesos to the dollar last year. So you can buy far more food, booze, and sexy-times when going down to TJ with the same amount of money when compared to last year. This was the impetus for our trip.
There are numerous guides for first time mongers to help navigate San Diego International Airport down to America Plaza to the blue line down to San Ysidro across the border then hop a cab to Zona Norte. The wealth of information largely has not changed. The only thing to keep in mind is that the border crossing back stateside is currently split between a new PedWest station serving 6 lanes and the old crossing temporarily routed through an old building next to where the old crossing used to be.
Should you choose to utilize the PedWest crossing, you will need to take an 8 minute walk eastward to get back to where the blue line trolley heads back into San Diego. There are shuttles, cabs, and some buses where PedWest emerges into the US, but it's currently not as convenient as the old crossing. Most have reported that foot crossings back via PedWest is significantly faster though.
The PedWest crossing will be available for the next couple of years as both US and Mexican authorities build a new facility to process foot traffic where the old border crossing used to stand. For now, PedWest can only be used to cross back into the US. Mexican authorities claim that PedWest lanes heading into Mexico will open this December.
A big focus of this article should be on the current [highly favorable] exchange rate. Girls in Hong Kong (HK) used to want $70~100 for a half hour of their time. Most girls this trip were willing to take 800~1200 pesos, which would have amounted to roughly $70~100 USD last year. At last weekend's exchange rates, this was closer to $40~60. Pay in Pesos. This will be a recurring theme in the following posts. Stay tuned.
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Still waiting to get validated for TJAmigos. Can't read threads or see their photo gallery yet. Looks to be very street oriented.
I do not personally know of anywhere else on earth where you can just walk down from your hotel room and have a huge selection of girls you can just walk back up the stairs with you, and without the need for her to change her clothes or stripper shoes.
http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?app=sh…
I have only seen one TUSCLer admitting to seasoning with a TJ Street Girl, and he has declined to give any further details.
SJG
hk girls (and some ab girls) are much more willing to linger after the deed is done... love the afterglow.
in general pesos are better.
I suspect two reasons why street girls usually aren't and stick strictly to time is money:
1. Rate is lower to start with.
2. Trying to keep regular hours, make money within a time window. Whereas maybe HK Bar girls work around the clock for their entire stint. So they can always look forward to making more money off of the next customer, as there is no closing time. And so as they need rest breaks and sleep time anyway, why not with you.
Do the street girls seem to have a closing time, like for the day crew, like they go home, maybe to be with their kids? Or do they seem to stay in the zona overnight, like bedding down with a customer?
I would think that wanting to manage their own time and be their own bosses is one of the main reasons they go for the street instead of the clubs.
Do they look good, some of the street girls?
Sounds like there are lots of freelancers, like meaning unlicensed, and maybe some American's in there too.
I would presume that if you are nice to a girl and talk to her some and offer to take her to lunch and give her the money she wants, then she will be happy to spend time with you.
Thanks for the info.
SJG
The local girls go home to rest. The out of town girls rent rooms in la zona. Many hotels (Cascadas included) have lockers that street girls rent for the day to leave their money and spare outfits.
Some of the street girls look like 18 year old shakira. Some guys go through decompression after Burning Man. I go through withdrawals after coming back from TJ.
As for post coital intimacy, I have had far better experience with non-HK girls. I have had lingering conversations after the act or offers of non-paid dates from girls from DG, Tropical, Adelitas, Valentina, and several street girls. This has never happened with a girl from HK. I recognize that these ladies were probably looking for a guy to treat them like a princess or perhaps husband hunting. I know I'm not not some handsome lady killer. Still, the illusion is part of TJ's allure.
That Cascadas, sounds awesome. Great rooms, food, and street girls in front and behind, and then the two clubs.
So can you just go and check into a Cascadas room and then find your girl? Or do you need to find the girl first and then see what hotel she is using?
Yes of course they are husband hunting. That is just how it goes. And if you take them up on that date, you can still pay them politely.
I think it easier to get to know a girl without loud music or flashing lights, and without alcohol.
If you want toda la noche with a girl, better to rent room, or maybe plan to use her room?
Thanks,
SJG
While street girls are not really bound to go to a specific hotels, many club girls can only go to certain hotels affiliated with their club. Tropical Bar, HK, and Las Chavelas girls can go to Cascadas or Riso de Oro. Adelitas girls can only go to Hotel Coahuila. Most other clubs have an adjacent hotel but you can pay a salidas fee to take them to most other hotels within half a block.
Some locals (from San Diego) we were chatting with claimed to have gone through relationships with multiple club girls over the years. If you are the use 'em and leave 'em type, this is a great town to leave near. I would not really want to visit a TJ girl's home out of safety concerns. That's like going with a sociopath to their second location.
There are multiple cambios all over town. They usually look like a reinforced bank teller window with an electronic sign out front with the posted buy/sell rates for the day. There are 5 or more within 1 block of HK. If you go to Revolucion (touristy road south of zona norte) or beyond, sometime the rates are slightly more favorable. On the weekend I went, most cambios in zona norte were offering in the neighborhood of 18.35 pesos to the dollar while some elsewhere in the city were offering as much as 18.6 pesos. A huge difference if you're looking to change a couple hundred USD.
ATM and credit cards all work in Mexico. I would recommend putting a travel alert on your bank card/account so that you don't have random freezes. ATMs are everywhere and other monger reports claim that they are safe due to the industry not wanted to get a bad rep. Your bank may process an international surcharge.
As far as phones go, that all depends on your carrier and plan. One person in our party had AT&T and was fine. One had been promised that his MetroPCS would work on arrival, but had to contact customer service to get the Mexico service activated (free of charge) in order to get data. Two had Sprint and Simple Mobile and could not get service for the duration of our trip. For those in doubt, I had recommended in a previous review that everyone simply grab a Telcel (or Movistar) prepaid SIM in San Ysidro right before crossing over.
I don't drink, but I like to keep girls in the very highest of heels. So distance is important.
:)
Street girls not bound to hotels, thanks for that info. It corrects some earlier misinformation. That is really good to know.
But club girls usually are bound. Again, that is a big plus for street girls!
Not want to visit a TJ girls home, going with a sociopath? I'll be careful and take things one step at a time.
Thanks for the info.
SJG
I read other sites and I am surprised by the low prices. I'll pay them better than that.
SJG
Tijuana Street
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I will say that I have witnessed Asian guys being offered non-paid dates by not only bar girls but street girls as well. The one black guy in our group last trip NEVER got offered a date. Sorry, it's true.
As for the pricing, know that the average annual income for a Mexican household is under the equivalent of 13,000 usd per year. So a couple hundred pesos per 15 minutes is a good deal of money for those with limited alternative financial prospects. Many girls do month long stints twice a year in zona norte and spend the rest of the year in their home town.
Escorts of Mexico says that they are up for toda la noche and quite reasonable about it. Like maybe pay for the hotel and double the un ratito fee. But the issue is you have to get to them too late at night, like about 4am. They know they have to sleep somewhere, so why not.
I wouldn't want to do that, be approaching street hookers that late at night. But I can see how ones encountered that late probably are free of immediate responsibilities.
I'd rather set up toda la noche after a basic session and some food. And the basic session would not be 15 min, one hour minimum.
And I would always be paying them well, not trying to squeeze them, instead wanting to make them happy and show care and concern.
Thanks for the important info!
SJG
SJG
I actually have very big plans. Paying hookers for sex is just like tipping waiters in restaurants. That it, its just partaking of what is available and being respectful. My interest in Mexico and in it its women goes way beyond that.
I can post about all kinds of stuff here, and I have. But I can do this because I know where to draw the line. I still need to keep my f2f life and my TUSCL life separated by fire walls.
Someday it may be different. The reason I can have such big plans is because I do live differently from the vast majority of people. Work, Play, Education, they are all one for me. I have never in my entire adult life taken a vacation, and I am not a consumer of recreational services. Everything I do is part of much larger agendas.
Hey, I was just reading on TJAmigos, guys having a hard time getting DFKing in the HK Bar. And then I wonder if there is anyway to get DFKing demo,s even out on the sidewalk. From my point of view, if you think it through and play it right, it probably is possible.
And I do like the idea of dancing with the girls. For Latina's, all they have to do is get close with you and look at you, and they can reduce you to jello. And if your not careful, they'll turn you into a show donkey. It's a land of Magical Realism.
:)
Should be Las Chevales
http://www.tjamigos.com/uploads/gallery/…
But we also have quite contrary evidence:
HK Bar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XARgc5Um…
Dr F.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=2…
It seems, that at least for many of these girls, that they lead with DFKing.
What better way could there be to cut out competition?
Even in our local no touching clubs, when a girl wants to finalize her OTC, they sometimes don't follow the rules and start DFKing. Even shopping for OTC, they sometimes start DFKing, intense DFKing. :)
I mention what it said on TJAmigo, because it is going against what seems to be, as I observe, the consensus.
And then accounts of the most extreme Black Clubs, and also the Mixed Race Clubs, girls who give you very little choice but to start DFKing them.
And then RedBook AAMPs, in many the girls just DFK you as soon as they get the front door closed, and before asking for the money.
And my own experience with walkin AAMPs, I got a DFK I was not at all expecting, and the session was mind blowing and unforgettable.
In my experience, mostly with AMPs, the best thing to do is get your girl completely off script right off. Never talk to her like she sells sex or sex acts for money. Money is never mentioned until she says something about it.
GFE is not on the menu at AMPs. But if the girl likes me and I flirt with her verbally, she won't refuse. Often enough I can just kiss her. Sometimes on my lap, sometimes just backing her up against a wall. When it happens, the results are mind blowing.
Often being surprised she will say, "Do you want to do everything?" And she will accept the friend price with joy, and it is awesome.
Other times they don't mention money at all, they just let it happen. I still give them the money at the end, but I know what they really want is to leave with me.
Once, having her backed up against the wall and DFKing her, I pressed the money into her hand. Without even looking at it she flung it across the room.
I treat all women as civilians, and in all situations. And I have found that the best possible way is to get any service provider completely off script.
Sometimes in AMPs the girl will ask what I want. This is already a negative, that we are talking like that. Then sometimes they initially refuse FS. Never do I try to offer money to persuade her. NEVER! I just keep talking to her in a completely civilian manner. Almost always they flip and ask for money and it happens. Usually very nice.
One young Vietnamese fashion plate was being unkissable. Then she asked me what I wanted and what I wanted to pay. So just teasing her I said, "How much for kissing." After a bit of that she admitted that that was a ridiculous idea, and so we started making out and it was a friend price mind blowing FS session.
Like with most of these, if I'd not of had a wife waiting at home, that girl and I would have been waking up together the next morning.
Dickering with the girl is okay. And being specific, if that matters. But only after she insists on coming to an agreement and a price. Never acting like money buys sex or sex acts from her. And usually specificity is not important. FS is a pretty basic idea. Usually I'll just take hold of her with one hand on each or her hips. No further communication is necessary.
If I have to explain it I draw from a Biblical euphemism. "I want to come into you."
If she is not kissing, then you can't use money or negotiations to change that. No matter what she might say, it is bullshit. If she wants to be kissing, she will already be kissing.
So best is just some introductions and flirting, and then kiss her. If it fails, keep talking to her in a completely civilian manner, then try again.
Talk to her and talk to her, but do not talk about kissing. You cannot talk her into doing good DFKing. You have to get beyond her rational and verbal thinking.
And all the info about the most extreme US clubs is that the girls give you very little other choice but to start DFKing them.
And about TJ, the same, from the available evidence.
But I know this may not be universal.
One thing, I never talk to women like they are prostitutes. I always treat them like I am hitting on them as civilians.
Now as far as sidewalk GFE in TJ, that I don't know about. But I believe that if one went about it the right way, it could be.
Thank you for sharing your most valuable experiences.
SJG
The Ultimate Front Room GFE Thread
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
Some have said that this 'MLB' is a better place for beginners to start, even better than the Hong Kong Bar. But I don't know what MLB means. Maybe it means this:
La Malquerida
But this is only speculation.
Some have said that if one wants girls jumping onto their lap and pushing their tongue into their mouth, that this Playboy Clug is best, even though there are numerous accounts of this for the Hong Kong Bar. I have no idea.
Playboy Club
https://www.tuscl.net/club.php?id=780
In general people say that you can pay for everything in dollars or pesos. But if you have to pick, some are saying pesos are better, especially for paying girls, and especially for street girls. I do not know.
Some have written that if you give a girl fichas, then pretty much she belongs to you. Next time you set foot in the club, she will come running.
But fichas are the tokens or paper slips they get when selling drinks. Makes no sense to me. But some say you cannot just be handing a girl cash in these places when she is sitting with you. You have to buy her drinks, as then the house also gets money. So it would seem strange that anyone watches closely enough to stop a guy from handing the girl cash. Maybe you can buy a ficha for her, without actually buying a drink? I have no idea.
Some say that Bar Tropical might have the most really young girls, 18, 19, etc. Why is this when the un ratito price seems to be lower? Is it because the HK bar is seen as 'harder core'?
And my number one question: People keep referring to the back stage shows in the HK bar as 'shaving cream'. To me this makes zero sense. To me this just sounds like guys who keep a good distance from such shows. Some have even talked about shaving cream and chocolate syrup. Again, makes no sense.
And I have seen some brief video clips of it. And then there are videos showing girls getting eaten out at the edge of the main stage.
I keep saying that the shows cannot be shaving cream, as that would be idiotic. So people say I haven't been there so I could not know. But to me it seems like these guys have stayed away instead of participating.
Aren't these shows Whipped Cream shows? To me that is the only way which would make sense.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_A7wB2gcr8lA/TM…
Intended As Continuation Of The Following Threads:
Justme62's thread
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
100ber's Article, Part I
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
Part II
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
Part III
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
SJG
How much front room GFE goes on in the HK Bar? The other TJ clubs?
Where do they have their Donkey Show?
Thanks,
SJG
street chicas
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj0yKwFlDNA