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Club Design Challenge: The Itty Bitty Titty Club

Monday, January 7, 2013 12:00 AM
A while back I did some articles on club design and management with a designing a sample club to illustrate the points. Those articles actually resulted in a couple of actual and would-be club owners asking me for advice. In those articles the only challenge I gave myself was designing the best club possible under the fairly typical limits of all-nude but no-alcohol. With an alcohol club you can presume that if the club isn't making money on the dancers it can make it up with drink profits. With a no-alcohol club you have to make it based on pretty much the dancers alone. So I decided to revisit club design but this time to give myself a real challenge: design a club in two thousand square feet total. How small is that? Well Sapphires in Vegas claims to be the largest in the world at 70 thousand square feet so one could fit 35 of them in it. A review of listings on stripclubproperties.com shows that the vast majority of clubs are from 4 to 8 thousand square feet. A large club might be 10 and what most people would consider a huge club, like SR Vegas would be 20. What really made me try for two was a news story about a city being sued over a zoning ordinance that was described as a de-facto club ban. Among such limits as a 10 PM closing time and a six-foot distance barrier was a maximum size of...two thousand square feet. Like the earlier articles there are renderings of the finished design in my profile pictures, along with the ones from the original set of articles. Selecting and downloading the picture will get the full resolution versions. Much like those 300 square foot sample apartments at IKEA setting a very restricted square footage forces one to be very efficient and to make decisions regarding what is essential. Do small right and you get 'cozy' and 'intimate'. Do small wrong and you get 'cramped' and 'crowded'. At least if you do it right 'cozy and intimate' are not bad adjectives for a club to have associated with it. In addition I added the challenge of wanting to do this as a strongly themed design. Most clubs have no theme, they just picked a name because it sounded sexy. A few are moderately themed, such as in the choice of artwork or logo or colors. But a strongly themed design tries to put you in a very specific place in every detail. Specifically I decided on the theme of a Moroccan Harem. The essential challenge of shrinking a club is that you can't just take a 5000 square foot club that could service a maximum of 25 dancers and shrink everything to a 2000 square foot club that can service a maximum of 10. Ten dancers on a peak night is not enough to have the variety and availability to really attract customers at peak times. And if you cant get them in at peak times you aren't going to cover your overhead. I needed enough private dance spaces in my two thousand square feet to still keep twenty dancers and forty customers. I needed a lot of private dance spaces. That brings up another issue, which is what proportion of lap dance versus VIP spaces. In a larger club you can afford a little inefficiency if there is a bigger demand at one time for VIP versus lap dances. So the first decision was to just have one type of space serve two purposes. How? In the prior article I said that the essential difference is that the people in the lap dances should be part of the spectacle but the VIP be a mystery. The customers should be enticed by what they see is going on in the lap dances but intrigued by what might be going on in the VIP. How do you do both with the same booth? Simple; two curtains. A sheer curtain for the lap dances but then pull the heavy curtain for the privacy and mystery of VIP. Without having to worry about whether the mix of the two offerings is right. And since there is no extra space for hallways make them all right off of the main lounge area. With the whole perimeter of the lounge area used for private dance booths it meant an island stage would be needed. This put even more pressure on the seating space. The typical club has concentric zones of seating from the stage. there is the tip rail seats, then there is the lounge seating zone, and then there are the wall booths. The wall booths were already gone because that was where the private dance booths were going, but even with a minuscule stage there wasn't space for both lounge seating and tip rail seating. So instead have just one zone of seating, trying to combine both the cozy sit-with-me vibe of the wall booths with the intimate proximity to the stage of the tip rail. And many of the seats are less than an arm's length from the stage edge anyway. Since the club is so small the stage does not need to be more than one step high, which fortunately eliminates any need to give any space to stairs. With the tip rail gone it means that no dancer is ever more than a couple of steps away from any customer. Since the stage is going to be too small for any sort of acrobatic moves anyway and we have gotten rid of the DJ and gone with voice-tracking to save the space of a DJ booth the stage changes concept from being a performance space to a presentation space, where the performers (as many as want at a time) present themselves with enticing moves and views until one of the customers gestures for them to come to them, at which point they are just a couple of steps to be at their sides. And if they agree on going to the private dance booths those too are just a couple of steps away. The net result is a very intimate relationship between stage, seating, and private dances. There is one small window for the soft drink service and one small booth for the floor manager station. There is one ten foot square business office and the security office/front desk is essentially a wide hallway. The entrance lobby is also essentially a short wide hallway. Bathrooms are four single-person unisex rooms, and there is a small booth for the floor manager. Oddly enough shortly after I finished this design challenge I was contacted by somebody wanting to do a three thousand square foot BYOB club. The BYOB added some extra elements and the extra thousand square feet required fewer sacrifices, but actually some of the elements of this design, I'm not saying which, made it into that one.

16 comments

  • Alucard
    11 years ago
    Hope you are being paid for your work. What a club looks like inside or outside is pretty much irrelevant to me EXCEPT for the design of the VIP Room. I'm MORE interested in how the club is managed.
  • inno123
    11 years ago
    @Alucard. Yes on the real work, no so on the fantasy exercises for articles here. As to the club that I am currently designing for real, once it opens it will be the owner's decision whether I ever say anything about it. Oh I certainly agree that management is essential, but design an management go hand-in-hand. A skilled manager will realize if something in the club's design is preventing its effectiveness, and a bad design can present headwinds to effective management. For example how many overhead people are needed? Is there a way to do with fewer? Is there a way to offer customers more choices? Are there typical ways of doing things that just make life harder for the dancer, more complicated to the manager, and add nothing for the customer? If a 2000 sf club needed multiple bouncers, a bartender, waitresses, a bathroom troll, a DJ, etc. it isn't going to be able to make money.
  • endlesstempo
    11 years ago
    Great read! Lots of interesting insight on club design. Hope this works out for you inno!
  • Alucard
    11 years ago
    As I said above the ONLY aspect of a club's design that means anything to me as a customer is the VIP Room. The MORE private and the bigger they are, the BETTER! I don't give a shit about any other aspect of design.
  • inno123
    11 years ago
    @Alucard...An interesting perspective, but there is always a trade-off. The booths in this mini design are 5' on each side, or 25 square feet. That is pretty small, as is everything else. To add two feet in each dimension would make a much more comfortable 7' on each side, but that would take about twice the floor space and result in the club only having half as many booths or spend more on rent. Either way the cost per minute of the booth is higher. Fewer booths means fewer dancers. Lets say to really keep a dancer happy she would be able to be selling some sort of private dance half of the time. there are 13 booths in this design, enough for a maximum of 26 dancers. Cut that to 6 with bigger booths and you can have a maximum of 12 dancers...not good. Try to squeeze more in and you run the risk of a dancer having sold a dance to a customer but there is no place to do it...unhappy dancer and frustrated customer. Then what fraction of a customer's time is spend in private dances? It depends of course on whether the guy is dribbling out ones at the stageside, slowly sipping his one drink at a table, or immediately grabbing the first hot girl he sees for a half hour VIP. But a good average might be one third of their time in private dances. That means that you need two club seats for every private seat. That cuts both ways. If you have too many booths for club seats there won't be enough space for PL's to sell to. If you wind up with six booths and 12 club seats you may have the ratio right but it means that your club can serve an absolute maximum of 18 customers at once! This is what I am meaning by the need for a synergy between design and management. It also means that even though you think you only care about one thing just about everything matters to make that one thing suit you. For example you might think that you don't care about proper lighting and cleanup facilities for the dancers...until you see a dancer with bad odor and ugly makeup!
  • Alucard
    11 years ago
    Well bad body odor is laziness on the part of the dancer in attending to her personal hygiene. NOT necessarily a function of how much dressing room space she has. Do you have REAL stats on how many VIP Rooms are in use at any one time in a club. I'd like to see them. How about the number of stories for the club? Especially in view of the death of a dancer after a fall.
  • inno123
    11 years ago
    Real stats vary of course on time of day, local demographics, etc. and for the small sample size of a single club, highly variable. So for example the number regarding the average time spent in the booth can swing broadly in the one direction if a few hardcore VIP people show up and in the other direction just as fast if a bachelor party shows up. The broad numbers that I cited are planning figures. Architects use planning figures all the time because we are designing buildings that have yet to be put into use. But the point is you can't just say 'the only thing that matters....' because these things all interact with each other.
  • Alucard
    11 years ago
    The size of the VIP Room matters to me. I don't go to a club to admire the architecture and the design ability of the architect. It is about my interaction with the dancer and important part of the interaction is in the VIP Room, which in almost every club is too cramped.
  • twilight12
    11 years ago
    aw hell, who doesn't enjoy a good dissertation now & then! U have any example of a club U've designed?? many of Ur ideas sound gd but i'm disturbed that U spend more time on VIP (a minority service) than lighting, seating & acoustics. ANY small club needs an elevated stage missing something so basic, so minor, tells me this is a fantasy, not a real design proposal at all.
  • inno123
    11 years ago
    @twilight12 Yes, this is a design exercise, not a real club. You seem to have a very different idea on the importance of VIP than Alucard. Of course I had ideas on lighting, sound, seating, and acoustics. Look at the renderings included in my profile. It isn't really a part of what I wrote about though because a 2000 sf club does not present any particular challenges to sound and lighting compared to a more standard size club. As to 'real' clubs as I wrote I am working with an owner who has one under construction right now. He doesn't want me blabbing all over the place what his new club and some of the nonstandard things we are doing as it is in a competitive market. Maybe after it is open he will approve of me writing about the club and the design process.
  • alwaysVIP
    11 years ago
    @inno123 the 2000sf club you described has already been built in Williston, ND and is in business. right down to the no DJ, 1 foot off the ground stage and curtain closed VIP booths. Only difference is it is topless with alcohol.
  • inno123
    11 years ago
    @AlwaysVIP...Well, as I said, it is easy to make a 2000 square foot bar work. That is only about average for a neighborhood bar. Adding a tiny stage and a tiny lapdance area is gravy. Making such a place work without the booze profits JUST on the dances is the challenge.
  • Ermita_Nights
    11 years ago
    I'm not sure I'd pay more just to have the curtain closed. Maybe some people would. I'd say the booths could be smaller. Many of the Detroit clubs have 4×4 ft booths. At Honest John's I'd say they're closer to 3×3.
  • inno123
    11 years ago
    @ermita_nights But isn't that what the whole sales pitch on the VIP room? It's much more private...you know...? having done some tests you can certainly so the essentials of a lap dance in a 3'x4' space, but particularly will full height walls it can be pretty claustrophobic. And for some customers (see Alucard's comments) having a bit more than the minimum space is an important thing. One thing I have been looking at in the 'real' project I am working on is how do you make a VIP room seem more welcoming without making it larger. A hook to hang your hat? A safe place for the dancer to put her purse and hang her dance costume? A waste can? A squirt bottle of hand sanitizer or lotion?
  • Ermita_Nights
    11 years ago
    Well yes, but paying different prices for the same booth just seems wrong. VIP is usually bigger and has nice furniture. The main thing I would suggest is a shelf or small table to set my drink down. In most clubs these days it seems to be unsafe to leave your drink unattended, and many don't have any place to put it while getting a LD. A trash can is nice in an "extras" club. A coat hook is sometimes nice, if I'm wearing a suit I usually want to take the jacket off during the dance. I don't need a place for my hat, I check that at the door.
  • nomadic1
    11 years ago
    Outhouse and Paradise in Lawrence Ks and Roadhouse in Columbus Ohio match pretty close to your description.
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