Comments by VeeEm (page 2)

cool, sent DM

you forgot the part about WHY they are objectified and sexualized by customers, you make it sound like that isn't the job description and the stripper’s sole role and responsibility you’d be better off saying “they may wind up pretending to play a therapist by customers, but they are not qualified as one in real life”

Honestly, the sketchiness of US strip clubs is the allure. There's the potential for BBFS with a new crazy chick that's making out with you! Going to a regulated brothel in a western country is nearly a surgical experience. Its very routine, condom application, shower, rinse repeat. I would recommend, I would prefer to live in a place that had them and the same production value (Nevada ranches are basically developing nation level, in comparison). But erotic activities in strip clubs are still alluring.

How were the dances? Sounds like you kept going back for more

lol, to be 19 again its glad you recognized all of your mistakes and checking out reviews to know they are mistakes. that same $300 in cash, knowing the base price of a dance from the bartender (ignoring the dancer) and not buying a drink in advance would have gotten you a lot further. two dances or maybe 1 dance with some negotiated additional fun, who knows. you can further optimize by doing dances by the song with multiple girls and then taking the best one - for your current interests - to VIP

That is not normal for California! But the Body Shop has been pretty whack, so the girls are all at the bar next door, which is a karaoke bar. This does improve the concept as you can interact with them and tourists there nontransactionally, and then eventually see them again at the nude bar. You can be assertive and pull dancers over into a dance or VIP area, where things can be different if you/they want. They do mosey over into the body shop very late. You don't need to go to COI (City of Industry) for a good lap dance, it is far far away. Seventh Viel is also on Sunset but in Hollywood.

Great review showing two separate experiences, I usually roll with $1500-$2000 and have found that its basically the limit of what you can spend in a shift. Like lets say a club is open from 8pm till 4am, and you get there at 10pm, between lap dances, VIP and choosing who you want to be with, you've spent all the time. Sure you can book multiple women and straight VIPs the whole time and spend way more, but for the concept of finding which one is going to make you nut in some way, $1500-$2000 is enough to narrow it down or just have fun in finding a dancer you generally like. So to read that your friend has such an amplified experience with just $1,000 that's pretty nice. Good point on TJ just not having the type of women you like, I'm pretty skeptical about COI personally. The only aberration is that you say you like Bare Elegance and 4play and Jet Strip more, but those are even more expensive??? I like 4play a lot and I don't like to talk. I'll spend there.

@asstapper, I'm getting this impression, COI is too far and despite the finishing, I keep getting hints that it's not attractive women. Why would I go to a strip club just for a hole, as opposed to a curated selection of beautiful women that might also offer a hole or two? Gonna keep reading

I haven't seen full nude on any dances here, I've done several 30 min and hour dances and they were topless. The stage is optionally nude, mostly topless. Likely dependent on how much is tipped.

@herbtcat I think this is going to be me, like the lawyer dude from the 80s. I can tell everyone that bothers reviewing is priced out of 4play, but I definitely see a stable too. Like, for me, it doesn't matter whether there are nipples and pussy in my face. a lot of dancers are more comfortable with heavier grinding with bottoms on. I like being risque' with the hottest women. This place has that. What the original reviewer said about BELAX still holds true too, but I think the expectation of wild women there is too well known.

1) learn about the prices from the VIP attendant/host if it matches what a dancer said, GREAT, but really just ignore what dancers say (unless its 'no' of course) 2) tips are not 100%, this is just a hustle. you hustle dancers by telling them another dancer let you do X. dancers hustle you by telling you that other customers tip them 100%.

I had to find this thread, I went to some clubs known as high mileage in the area based on Tuscl reviews and it matched my experience. I went to different clubs in the area known low mileage based on many/or almost every Tuscl review and it was just as good of an experience or better with multiple dancers! To me, low mileage is basically no contact, one-way contact, having hands moved away. Basically you sitting on your hands thinking you might get kicked out the club if you accidentally touched the dancer. high mileage is two way contact, rubbing on her inner thighs, her stick shifting, grinding on your dick w/ your pants down but over your underwear, anything that makes you cum or is intended to, and maybe even her pussy lips grinding against the back of your bare cock outside of your underwear. when dancers uphold/create a limit that is based on the presence of cameras or bouncers, it is noteworthy that low mileage places use the same reason, and yet here you are - the customer - with your shift off, and pants since low mileage is always a risk, I don't think I can really make it a "relative for the area" kind of thing. but I can see that with high mileage. actual sex services as extras (obviously how us customers almost all define extras) are almost always a mystery and maybe really deserve a category of their own, with some cognizance we can reduce the randomness by nearly 90%, but I find it separate from the mileage discussion and expectation.

FKK's in Germany are great. Too many Americans focus on the perpetual club ad of Amsterdam, when there is a whole country right over the way that doesn't even come with the connotations. FKK's are high quality and less expensive than a private dance with a stripper. They also have swimming pools, and buffet. Just nibble on some food for a while. Girls aren't going to bother you, and if they do they aren't going to hustle you for tips. A whole round trip and lodging and full service at an FKK is cheaper than an hour of VIP at US strip clubs. But hey at least some persistence at a US strip club can lead to some bare back something. The loot box of outcomes can be sort of fun. The oddest part about FKK / sex services in Europe is running into American girls that thought they wouldn't see someone from a major US city. Still rare, but its amusing.

Being reluctant to get a monkeypox vaccine because the personnel might think you are gay is literal homophobia. Just in case you've ever spent any energy avoiding being called homophobic.

this is the first time desertscrub's trolling has made me laugh out loud

Come on, Casino is right, your ATF said that girl is only "unclean" because she hooks up with customers just like you hook up with your ATF. She was both competitive/jealous and also trying to stay slightly safer by not getting intimate with you so obviously right after.