Comments by angelfly

clubber, i was not in the least being sarcastic. i actually meant i do think it's wise for a woman to own her own firearm... i can't get tone of voice on this computer:)...my bad.

blah blah blah....this guy went looking for the case study to prove the point he was going to make regardless. if he had met my atf, he wld have disregarded everything she had to say and plowed right ahead, i'm sure. look, every society is going to have some losers. i love the part where he asks her....gee, lil girl, if you hate stripping so much why ever would you do it, and she blinked her big puzzled retarded eyes and says dunno. um....same reason anybody does any job they hate....they need the $ and nothing better has come up. sad fact, can't live without $. btw, i have met dancers who have a degree, my atf has her bachelor's and cld care less about getting a master's or working in her field. there's no real reporting here, just a guy who doesn't like sc's. and that's fine, i guess. also, i have never heard of a sc telling a girl to drop weight. ever. i live in atl, have spoken to many dancers. and there are some somewhat heavy girls that dance and make good $ here. so i like the way he hits on another very sore topic, women being exploited by having eating disorders forced on them, when everyone knows most men don't care so long as you're not obese. if anything i think sc's and porno mag's can help women feel better about their bodies after looking at that nasty runway ribcage-and-spine-sticking-out standard.

my atf told me about that site, said she used to look at it before starting dancing, she didn't mention money making tips, just to get an idea if dancing was for her. LOL says she hasn't been on the site since started dancing. Says it's full of girls whining and complaining about every last little thing that happened the night before....saying every other girl at their club is a drunk and a skank except them and their little clique....vowing that the "industry" as a whole is going downhill....typical stripper nonsense. She actually does funny impersonations of long rambling stripper posts, she's funny. All my girl has to do to get my $ is be really hot and really sweet. Also I agree with Fondl, a lot of these girls grow up in homes with a single mom who's always one step ahead of the bill collector, so they learn petty little hustles and scams. it's not just customers they do it to. And I don't think it has anything to do with being a dancer, some people are JERKS. But I think this thread relates to something else, which is men who get attached to a stripper in the hopes that she really likes him and a relationship will develop in the future. Well, you have to be a willing believer to allow that "con" to work on you. Believe me, they're not that good of actresses, you are a willing participant, you got smoke in your eyes. I'm sure my atf is quite fond of me, don't get me wrong, but I don't think she thinks of me for one second once I'm out of her sight. And I hope one day she marries a handsome man her own age, b/c she's a great gal. It's called reality. It's like saying gee that Jimmy Swaggart must have been a great evangelist to get all those people to send in all those tens of millions of dollars. He wasn't all that. Those people just needed to believe what he told them. Lots more people would have changed the channel. Hope any of that makes sense.

I think it's so pretentious that one minute they have them prance around in bikinis, then they have the "personality/question" segment...LMAO....just drop that segment and at least the pageant could have some consistency and integrity. Also...just a thought...some of my co-workers were bashing on her for being dumb and I, thinking, y'know, straight up, maybe she is, so what? I mean, you can't help what IQ you're born with....doesn't mean she's not a nice person. I mean, we're not supposed to make fun of people for being fat, or ugly, why mock the hot and unintelligent????

oh....and i'm curious...what other site?

I'm sorry in advance if this sounds attacking because nobody deserves to be attacked but this thread has a slight mysogynistic overtone to it. Many people believe that SC regulars are sexually immature woman-haters who can't cope with reality and maybe this is part of what contributes to it. I have 2 ATF's, and neither one has deceived or defrauded me in any way. Neither one has my phone #. If I want to see them I have to go to their place of business on one of their scheduled shifts. If I want a real date, in real life, I can ask out a chubby, 40-year old woman, my physical equivalent. When my ATF smiles at me, gives me a hug, tells me its great to see me, gives me a great dance, I can't imagine being so rude as to ask her how she got to be such a great actress. If I wanted reality I wouldn't be in the SC. Now, if you think a particular stripper is being a total biatch, blocking other strippers, just politely say, I'd like to be alone right now, or, I'm here to see my favorite dancer, I won't be getting any dances from you tonight. And be done with it. Or if you think a girl is being phony by asking for your #, just decline taking it. But I think it's wrong for men to go into the club and judge these girls. Some of them are messed up in ways you can't imagine. Avoid the bad ones, find the good ones. But don't judge them for playing on their sexuality. My #1 ATF has told me that's the whole fun of the job, to wear heels and a costume and bat her eyelashes and toss her hair...they're strippers!

chitown...i don't consider it being taken for a ride, if you give a gift freely, expecting nothing in return. on the other hand, if u secretly hope this gorgeous girl will quit stripping and run off with u, meanwhile she's manipulatively dropping all these hints... that's a different story. and yes that does happen. you certainly should never make purchases for people if you get a weird vibe off it. i buy lots of people presents, i just like to. i buy presents for my dad. i view it the same way. i'm going to give my atf the iphone she wants next time i see her. to the op, kudos getting your girl a pistol, that is a very good gift for a female.