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16 years ago
Hi Shekitout,
Unfortunately, the answer is YES! Both as to price and quality. Sometimes the price was merely an introductory deal or she was desperate or it is inflation or etc. Quality could be just a question of her mood or she might just take a good customer for granted real quick. One dancer that I knew had a policy to go all out with a new customer, but future business was much tamer. She said she didn't want the customer getting to chummy or attached and preferred "cold encounters." By cold encounters it doesn't refer to the acts which could be smoking hot and "nasty," but instead refers to her knowledge of the customer. She'd rather fuck a complete stranger than someone she is getting to know and she prefers fresh to repeat.
Can't blame a dancer at all for not wanting to do OTC.
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16 years ago
Hi MisterGuy,
You happen to recall your yappings about the 2nd Amendment? :) I mean you sure seemed to know the law as if it was chiseled in stone. :)
Anyway, I don't know if the U.S. Supreme's 5-4 decision was a correct decision. And, really it is just a matter of opinion as the words themselves are mere prenumbras. Prenumbras----I hope I got that beautiful word correct. :)
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16 years ago
"precedent" is a sick joke regardless of the decision just as "rule of law" is a sick joke
I think and I may be 100% wrong, that the French concept of precedent is much more honest and delivers better administration of law. The American precedent BS uses depublished and nonpublished opinions so that unless you're an insider, usually a very elite attorney, it would be impossible to know the *real* law i.e. controlling precedent. That isn't the major problem with American precedent, however, judicial dishonesty and corruption is.
I love those who yap about judicial activism whether they know what it means or not----way to go brothers!!! LOL! :)
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16 years ago
Hi arbeeguy,
Some of the strippers I've known thru the years were professional escorts as well or at least tried it. Yeah, a whole different industry, however, still the sex industry and some strippers wear multiple hats. They don't limit themselves to just being strippers. Some strippers also work in adult films and to the extent strippers are in adult films, I think it is of interest and on topic.
Hell, even if the strippers were working outside the sex industry I think it might be of legitimate interest. For example, it your favorite stripper is a police officer or school teacher it is of interest because it, imo, breaks to some extent stereotypical prejudices.
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15 years ago
I believe, and could be wrong, that when a stripper responds in the narrow physical sense her feelings of arousal (meaning simply it feels good to her) are also usually in harmony. In my experience *most* (90%?) don't care about breast fondling---physically there is no response and the stripper doesn't respond in a convincing manner to indicate feelings of arousal.
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16 years ago
I believe the original thread where this issue arose was on topic and the issue of gun rights in that thread as it relates to sexual rights was also on topic.
Unfortunately, that was an old thread. This merely continues the on topic conversation regarding basic rights: sexual, gun ownership, speech, jury trial, etc. etc. etc. as they relate to each other and as they are recognized or ignored by the government.
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16 years ago
I prefer everyone in a stripclub armed to the teeth especially with firearms. :)
The real issue should be does the Constitution actually protect gun ownership? Not what is "best" for the country or community.
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16 years ago
Well, it is another 5-4 decision so it is another "right" supposedly secured by the U.S. Constitution hanging by a thread.
BTW, I'm extremely biased in favor of gun rights.
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16 years ago
Gambling dancer told me even the most generous most honest most considerate customer in the club can be a dangerous nut case OTC. She spoke with conviction and I think dancers new to business should hear her words and give them serious consideration.
This is a woman who is used to dealing with very violent people in her regular life outside the club and yet she had a real fear of customers who appeared to be wonderful.
Of course, she could have been buttering me up---she is a con artist and a good one, but she said I was the exception in that I was much nicer OTC than ITC. Probably because I put real effort in making dancers feel safe and secure OTC while ITC, I figured they had the bouncers.
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16 years ago
I'm extremely distrusting and suspicious of even regular joes or marys. Many years ago I was in a car accident. The police officer seemed professional and just like an ordinary joe--a good man. He could tell that I was low income and was a working stiff.
I thought he was being a real nice guy when said he wanted to save me some money because he could tell that I worked hard and didn't have much. He was correct on both counts. He said I didn't need to hire an attorney for the ticket because he wasn't going to show. Sounded fantastic and I thanked him and confirmed that I was having a tough time making money. A friend urged me to "waste" the money on an attorney. Well, even the least expensive attorney was a significant expense for me and I was trying to watch every penny and even clipping pennies off coupons.
Because of all the open fraud in family court I decided to listen to my friend. No, I didn't have negative feelings toward the police and in fact had generally been well treated (and more) and treated professionally. I thought of them in the Matt Dillon TV mode---tough, fearless, honest. What does fraud in family court have to do with police? Well, if you can't trust judges then perhaps police officers shouldn't be trusted either and my friend usually gave sound advice and didn't believe in throwing money away unless necessary.
So, I got the necessary funds for the attorney and he took over----which was wonderful. I didn't need to get tangled up in stuff that was way beyond my comprehension level at the time. And, I needed to work to make money. The attorney was the cheapest I could find and he still was extremely expensive for my puny budget. :( I practically cried giving him the money.
So the trial came and the attorney basically told me just answer truthfully and don't go on and on and don't talk unless it is my turn. Well, the attorney was well prepared and did his job and I won. I thanked him and the money I paid him was a bargain---he was worth every penny and more! The police officer DID show up and was basically a low life pretending to be a nice guy average joe.
More bizzare still the police officer had the nerve to approach me afterwards and challenge me by asking why did I hire an attorney after he told me wasn't going to show. Because I was in the courthouse and there were plenty of witnesses and the police officer had come after me, I got in his face real quick and real aggressive and SHOUTED why in the hell did you show when you told me you weren't going to in order to help me out!!!???
I was furious. The officer froze for a couple seconds and everyone was staring. I wasn't backing down even a little and he was much bigger than me. He didn't answer and just walked away. I was very afraid of running into him again. I don't understand why he acted like a rat and worse challenging me after my attorney had won the case. Thank heavens I never saw the officer again, but it made me more distrustfull and less willing to call the police when help is needed.
My tax dollars hard at work. :(
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16 years ago
"I make a living catching people in lies. And there's a really good rule of thumb about lying: one lie invariably leads to another. That's what's happening with David."
The good rule of thumb can also apply to innocent mistakes and false recollections. The woman was positive the rapist had a heart shaped tattoo---it was clear as day. She believe the tattoo matches the alleged rapist's and before you know it her mind is filling in details that she is positive are true merely because she mistakenly linked the tattoo to the alleged rapist. Initially, she might have been sure the rapist was shorter, but since the tattoo is proof positive suddenly in her mind the rapist grows a few inches and on and on and on it goes.
Also, logical inconsistencies don't equal lying even when that clearly seems to be the case. Famous attorney F. Lee Bailey had months earlier spoken with a witness in depth about OJ or something OJ related and I was watching the court proceedings live. The witness SWORE repeatedly that the famous F. Lee Bailey had NEVER spoken to him because he definitely would have remembered talking to a famous attorney like F. Lee Bailey. The witness appeared to be so credible. I mean who wouldn't remember a long conversation with F. Lee Bailey especially when you know he is the famous attorney?!
Turned out F. Lee Bailey was telling the truth. The witness finally remembered the conversation, but had thought it was a DREAM because he couldn't believe a famous attorney like F. Lee Bailey would actually talk with him. And, because he believed it was a mere DREAM he completely DISMISSED it from his memory and added false details to cover the dismissal. Talk about apparent lying! The witness had NO apparent reason to lie so blatently about F. Lee Bailey, but he was definitely a flake of the first order based on what I watching. :)
Oh, and as the witnesse testified falsely about him and Marsha Clark made erroneous derogatory statements based on the false testimony, F. Lee Bailey seemed ready to BLOW UP! His integrity was publicly on the line before millions of viewers and he wasn't calm, cool, or collected.
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16 years ago
"Also, obviously, a person who had "healthy paranoia" would not go to several strip clubs adding up to 120 visits a year."
The "healthy paranoia" may be primarily concerned about law enforcement and being trapped by *words*. Going to several different stripclubs adding up to 120 visits per year may attract law enforcement ---- big spender, aggressive, perhaps well known and disliked. But, his words *in the stripclub* maybe sufficiently benign as to be a dead-end as far as proving criminal activity. And, it is those words that he uses so freely on TUSCL that might be used against him *if* his stripclub identity and TUSCL identity were merged.
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16 years ago
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Book GuyI write it like I mean it, but mostly they just want my money.
"This alpha male stuff is just bull shit. In the animal kingdom this old bull would be driven out. In the real world, I can still compete.
My looks, my personality, my money. Get real!"
The realty is, imo, that througout 99% of human history the "old bull would be driven out" to use your own words. Natural selection played out over millions of years should give some valuable clues as to what women--fertile women--are attracted to on the primordial level in that genes are replicating.
If dragging a woman around by her hair was a successful propagating strategy for millions of years, then that hair dragging should persist at some level even when the game changes radically. Many years ago I was "man-handling" my girlfriend and another man objected. He didn't understand that I wasn't actually "man-handling" her and that ***she wanted me to act even more aggressive.*** I joked with her that if I was anymore aggressive, then I'd be behind bars! The man doing the objecting by the way a very nice guy; a very nice guy who wasn't having success with women. Perhaps his standards were too high or he was attracted to women who didn't value the fact that he was so nice.
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16 years ago
"Also if he really was a highly successful mid-40's lawyer, I am sure he would have figured out to make his writings shorter by that point in life."
The purpose of the writings may simply be a form of venting and the subject matter for him and others may be interesting, but that may not be the point. He may not even truly believe in EP!----just goofing off playing a little devil's advocate. Watching word length would sort of defeat that purpose, imo, as would concerning oneself with diplomacy in order to persuade.
Verbosity is a trademark for some successful lawyers, both in writing and in speech. Published court decisions are often prolix as well as being poorly reasoned.
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16 years ago
"Anyone who really was in his mid-40s and making $500K per year would have enough self-confidence not to care what anyone else thought of him."
That would be a reasonable thought and my thinking was along the same line, but look at some of these million dollar atheletes or celebrities. Even with erudite highly financially successful professionals like attorneys, doctors, engineers, etc. the behaviour especially when under stress doesn't always equal the social expectations that the reasonable person would expect.
A long time back, some facts may be off a little, in The Herald there was a story about an esteemed judge who BIT some petty criminal on the nose in his courtroom! It seems surreal. The judge has the power, respect, money, education, and he really cares about what some petty criminal thinks about him to the extent he BITES the man's nose???
Sometimes basic clear logic can lead one to erroneous conclusions. Intelligent people are especially prone to the fallacy that if it doesn't add up it *must* be untrue. Nettlesome to me personally are those intelligent people who arrogantly deny conspiracy theories with a wave of the mind based simply on preconceived notions like "too many people would have to be involved or someone would have to talk or there is a simpler explanation."
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16 years ago
"As for DickJohnson: I love you too, man. Group hug."
The Group hug is a little too much, imho. :)
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16 years ago
I like being luved. :)
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16 years ago
Heathy paranoia? :)
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16 years ago
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Book GuyI write it like I mean it, but mostly they just want my money.
I think the "King of TUSCL" would decree that all the seed spreading posts have nothing whatsoever to do with stripclubbing and that imo would be sad and erroneous.
So NO seed spreading posts and NO posts with more than 10 words or more than 2 sentences but in any case whichever is most laconic. Well, that extirpates about 99% of TUSCL's discussion board besides of course the pearls cast down by TUSCL royalty. ;)
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16 years ago
Too bad you guys can't meet at Shadowcat's TUSCL convention or maybe it ain't too bad. :)
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16 years ago
The funny thing is no matter how out of character a poster may seem it is possible that he is what he says he is. :)
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16 years ago
I don't see that posting a review would accomplish much. Seems like it would be fairly simple to steal a real review and just reword it. And, people can have wildly different opinions about what constitutes a good stripclub.
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16 years ago
LOL! :)
Sorry, imho NOBODY on this board comes across like a genius even if in fact they are a GENIUS.
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16 years ago
"No jablake, those guys lose their licenses if they get caught. You are not allowed to have sex with your patients, whatever the excuse."
I'm not talking about doctors having sex with their patients. I'm talking about doctors using "sex therapists" to help patients with real sexual dysfunctions. The patients may benefit from this type of medical care *by sex therapists* who are allowed to provide sexual intercourse as well as other sexual activities "for bona fide medical purposes."
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16 years ago
Sex by Prescription: The Startling Truth About Today's Sex Therapy (Paperback)
by Thomas Stephen Szasz (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Prescription-Startling-Todays-Therapy/dp/0815602502
I've also seen television shows as well as read articles on the subject----of course, that doesn't make it true. However, some patients will severe sexual problems could definitely, imo, and I'm sure in some doctors' opinion be helped greatly by a "hands-on" sex therapist that may actually go as far as sexual intercourse.