Strip club safety

Definitely I prefer a club with a patdown and/or magnetometer. It's annoying but fuck I do NOT want to be in a club where people are packing. I can survive a fist fight but a gunshot wound to the chest, not so much.

I generally avoid conversing with other patrons. Generally. Not much good comes from that. When I do get caught up with other PLs I keep it really light and respectful.

Tipping well, even throwing the manager or bouncer a few bones from time to time goes a long way. If you do get into an argument with a dancer or patron, they'll remember.

I Uber or Lyft to and from the club to avoid the prospect of a DUI, but also so I wind up there safe if the neighborhood is sketchy.

And my most important tip? Schedule a ride share home for when the club closes.

The most dangerous situation I've ever faced in my mongering career was in at Landing Strip, in the dead of a Detroit winter. I'd done dances all night with a fav, by the time we finished they'd already kicked everyone else out, and they were in a hurry to see me pay my tab and exit the premises.

When I did exit, it was like 5 degrees out and 2 in the morning with heavy winds and some snow showers. I was not provisioned to survive this weather for long. However, Uber was in this endless loop of assigning me a driver, then cancelling. It probably took 45 to get a ride, during which, I almost died of exposure.

So these days, I always make sure I have that ride home scheduled.

In the club security is completely worthless if they will just back their staff members or will defend their people of the same race if any sort of altercation breaks out. Or, back a favored regular or big spender.

If i was really concerned about safety I would try to go to a club where both the patrons and staff members have some level of diversity.

But, i dont think its really that big a deal, hence you can usually go to any club in the US.

I usually drive to the club, so my concerns are with the safety of the parking lot area.

I agree that checking customers for weapons is important- i never paid much attention to that.

Clubs are a legal establishment- so I have far less worries going to a club than seeing an escort in a hotel.

In my many trips to clubs all over North America, if I have seen a fight break out, it's usually initiated by staff (security) more often than patrons, (i.e.) the first punch is thrown by staff. The majority of fights I have seen are staff vs. customer, not customer vs. customer.

If I see broken glass in the parking lot (I can tell the difference between car and bottle) I become very weary, worried if "will my car be there when I exit a few hours later?"

@shailynn
You said a mouthful brother, I not only agree, I avoid sketchy places and people.

Chunkychicano, I think about parking lot safety too. When I leave a strip club in a bad part of town late at night I head straight for my car and don't linger. If there is something like a convenience store across the street I do not walk over there to buy something. I always make sure my car has plenty of gas before entering a bad part of town and keep the doors locked and the windows rolled up while driving through it. I may be overly cautious but it is better to be safe than sorry. I also pay attention when driving in the bad parts of town because homeless people, drunks or drug addicts might wander out into the street in front of my car.

Well said, everyone. These are reasons I prefer clubbing during the afternoon or early evening whenever I have the option. As far as I'm concerned, I think the risk vs. reward of staying at a strip club until the wee hours of the morning is rarely stacked in a monger's favor.

There’s a reason why there is a saying that after 10’pm only the law and the outlaw are out.

@shailynn thats crazy, what starts the fight in those cases where staff strikes first? Also how do they get away with it? Are these customers very drunk or afraid to get the cops involved for some reason? If i got punched by club staff i would treat it the same as being punched by any random guy on the street.

I do remember at one club one of the bouncers, out of shape guy but big, was talking to another bouncer , saying he hopes someone would get drunk enough so he could slam them or something like that

Almost exclusively day guy here.

Also am extra careful in cities I am not familiar with like Jax, Fay NC, Brockton, Baltimore, Philly)

I pulled into a divey club parking lot in Springfield, MA a few years back, and some sketchy dudes approached me for protection money for my car. I didn't give it to them. If I had been thinking clearly I would zipped out of there to a better part of town, but I didn't. Fortunately nothing came of it.

@chunkychicano your comment about a bouncer hoping a customer pops off is exactly what I have seen after the fact.

Most of the arguments stem from a customer getting ripped off or thinking he got ripped off by a dancer and going crazy with a bouncer getting in between the dancer and customer and it escalating from there.

Over the years I’ve been to some real sketchy places - San Antonio, Dallas, Akron, Baltimore, West Virginia, west Toronto, upstate New York and NYC are just a few of the places that I was like “what am I doing here?” Detroit has to be one of the sketchiest places in the United States but the clubs that I frequent are actually or at least appear to be run pretty well, but I’m not going into Henry 8 and Bogarts.

I don’t see it as much anymore but in the late 90s to late 00s it seemed like just about every bouncer was on steroids and the only reason they were working that job was for the opportunity to beat the shit out of someone. This wasn’t exclusive to strip clubs, it was common at any club.

As many others have said, I look to be out of there before the knuckleheads start their shenanigans. I'd also second the need for a male bouncer/security presence for inside and also outside the club in the parking areas. That's where the majority of arguments tend to devolve into gunfire.

I usually try to head out when the vibe changes. Around midnight or two, a new crowd will start to come in. The loud, drunk, looking for trouble vibe is easy to pick out. Once that happens, I'm not going to have fun anyway. Almost every club fight or disturbance I've seen happened when I decided to stay later than I should have.

Perfume is the most dangerous thing I typically encounter in a strip club. If I lived somewhere like Texas or Oklahoma I might worry more about violence in the clubs a lot more.

That being said, there was one occasion in a very rural club where the crowd felt like this bizarre combination of roids, rednecks, and frat boys.

In all my years I have only felt unsafe in a club once and that was my own fault because I got drunk and started running my mouth to the wrong guys. I've clubbed in a lot of clubs that reviewers talked about feeling unsafe in but I never felt that way. As long as you just focus on the entertainment you're generally going to be fine.

When I was young and thought I was indestructible, I went anywhere/everywhere no matter how shade. Craziest thing I ever saw in a a small strip club in Camden was a confrontation between a group of Pagans (outlaw MC club) and some plain clothes/off-duty (?) cops in Camden. I never saw the cops ID themselves but bartender told me later they were cops.
The Pagans told the cops they were in their seats and to get up and the cops told them to fuck off. Threats from the Pagans followed, then a cop pointed his gun at a Pagans head. A lot of shouting and dancers screaming. The Pagans then left but were furious. As soon as the coast was clear (no MCs in the parking lot) I got the fuck out of there. Now I never go into a club if I see a bunch of bikers MCs in the parking lot.

As long as there's a condom dispenser in the restroom, I know I'll be safe.

I go everywhere without concern. Not in my nature to worry about my surroundings and I am capable of taking care of myself. If you show fear, people respond with violence.

Club security are usually paid thugs. Theyre part of what makes a club potentially unsafe.
Usually the more drug activity in a club the more dangerous it is. Also if they have gabg affiliated promoters or security. Rogue management .Cuban pick pockets ruin a club too.

Usually, there is an inverse relationship between the amount of security and how safe I feel.

“Never go to clubs with metal detectors. Sure it feels safe inside. But what about >all those niggas waiting outside with guns? They know you ain’t got one.”

— Chris Rock

I'm not overly sensitive about it, I'll certainly leave or avoid a club if it feels particularly sketchy. Usually my motivation for doing so is that I simply do not want to be part of any sort of legal proceedings. I'm not trying to get interviewed by the cops as a witness, much less questioned as a suspect. I'm willing to accept a level of risk of that happening by setting foot in the door, but if I see obvious drug activity, unchecked sloppy drunks, the puffery that often precedes fights, or any other things I feel elevate the risk of a visit from the law, I just leave. If it's routine at the club, I avoid it.

Like someone else said, the vibe of a dangerous club is one that isn't conducive to me having a good time. Again, it's no so much safety, it's that the crowd that is usually involved in that shit is also involved in another shit I don't find fun to be around. So it just sorta works itself out as I end up leaving.

But, the lack of security staff, metal detectors and pat downs, or similar things doesn't generally give me concern for my personal safety or give me concern that a raid or incident call is imminent. If anything, that shit makes me think they've got reason to think shit is gonna pop off and they need the security.

I've never worried about it for myself. I did a little bouncing, and I also did some driving when I was younger. Dealt with a lot of shit and never really get messed with even in rough neighborhoods. I think I give off not worth it vibes

I’m less concerned about personal safety than I am about getting (another) DUI. The precautions I take for that probably help keep me out of jams, but, like Ron Jax, I’ve been stranded getting ride shares after closing a few times

1st thing is broken glass in parking lot. Not just at clubs but anywhere I see broken glass it immediately changes the vibe.
Also how intense is the pat down. I've gone through metal detectors where nobody bats an eye when it goes off. If I get the full pat down like at an airport I know they've had some problems.
People hanging in/around parking areas.
Also just paying attention to the vibe and clientele inside. I can adapt to multiple environments but sometimes you just have to recognize when it's time to cut your losses if things don't look right.

🔺👍 ' Cameras Inside & Outside Should Be Well Situated.
Have Clean $SC, Restrooms, Parking Lot, & Patty Downs, Metal Detectors, Security Personnel.
Watch/Observation For Suspicious Activity.
Inside & Outside Walk Patrols Should Be Regular.
Be Sure Da' $Strip Club Knows Safety Practices.
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🚔 - Make Sure Police Patrol Through.