Closing the Department of Education

There are plenty as bad or worse as the DoEd, and they all need to go. USAID Dept of Energy NEA Ad Council Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the big one...

The Internal Revenue Service. Do away with all of the income taxes, sliding scales, loopholes, and cut outs. Lay down a flat tax on business and a VAT tax on private individuals. So fucking simple and FAIR.

^ No matter what anyone thinks about the Department of Education, they certainly didn’t do anything for you gayboi

what a flex - rude ^

Well Gam, I'm not sure I'm ready to plunge off the deep end with you on all of that, but the DoE is definitely low hanging fruit. It's utterly duplicative as each state usually has its own DoE to deal with curriculum standards and to direct state-level funding to different schools.

Congress could simply block grant the money to state DoEs and let them figure out how best to allocate it. True Title IX violations can still be pursued by the DoJ. And any "reinterpreations" of Title IX can be handled by the outfit that is supposed to do the legislating, which of course is Congress.

@ gammanu95

I will be the first to acknowledge their are severe problems from many government organizations. Most of these problems stem from being influenced by corporate lobbyists who benefit from them.

That will be a thread for a different time when I have all my facts together.

The only thing I strongly disagree on is the IRS being removed. I have read countless theories about going to a flat tax, but there is one thing that even those articles admit. A flat tax rate would primarily increase the cost of consumer goods and housing. Effectively making everything more expensive for the lower classes of society who spend most of their income on housing, goods, and services.

For the any family bringing $360K or above annually, it's just more of a tax cut.

The IRS is a carrot/stick for congress. While it needs to be DRASTICALLY put on massive amounts of Ozempic to simplify it, Congress will never let its weapon get neutered. The sooner the Tax Act gets passed, the better so corps can plan.

The current screaming about USAID is hilarious: a 60+ year old EO JFK put into place, that has grown on auto-pilot with zero Congressional oversight from a baby alligator into a Nomenklatura behemoth on it's own living in the NYC sewar system with spending as a Global Agenda Slush Fund needs to be drawn and quartered, everyone released, and somehow the Radical Dems are calling this a "Constitutional Crisis." Sure, we can provide aid properly where needed, we are a compassionate country, we are NOT a The Soros Bank for the UN, IMF and World Bank. We are running a $2T deficit - Millions/Billions of Dollars from small programs add up, like the $1B we spend on PBS/NBR that needs to be go.

Now the Dems are screaming "Musk is taking over Treasury", which is hilarious. "This is how Hitler rose to power."

I am disappointed the first day Elon arrived to start DOGE on 20-Jan he didn't carry a kitchen sink with him. RINOs and Dems would have had to change their underwear.

For K-12, blue states will do OK. Red states will go from bad to worse - any kid who doesn't have rich parents and goes to school in a red state will face a lot of the negative consequences. But hey, at least The 10 Commandments will be posted on the walls. Though most of the poor red state kids won't actually be able to read it, so maybe Christ will just speak to them directly if they look at it hard enough or something.

The ones who will be affected the worst will be disabled kids who rely on Special Ed programs. But who needs those leeching Invalids anyway, right? Just more hungry mouths to feed. Compassion is for weak woke libruls!

Yeah, for anyone who has ever gone to school, you know the department of education is actually really good.

But hey, the United States president was expelled from his private grammar school despite his father being a board member, for not only being stupid as a rock with an IQ of 73, but because in his dimwitted frustration, he ultimately attacked one of his teachers. He was then sent to a military boarding school as a punishment. That's his background, so of course he doesn't see the value in education. Most people aren't born with a silver spoon in their mouths. Getting rid of publicly funded education sets the stage for other countries to surpass the USA and just run laps around us in the future.

^Joe Biden was thrown out of law school for plagiarism dimwit. Educational achievement in this country has been plummeting for 35 years. The department of Education as formed 45 years ago. Apparently they are so incompetent it took 10 years to start killing us academically. Only an uneducated biffoo who lives for the Daily Beast would call the waste of money department of education good.

The consensus of liberals seems to be that big, tyrannical government controlling everything is good, as long as it a democrat party president or entrenched liberal bureaucracy.

Wow it looks like Elon Musk found the Deep states honeypot in USAID. Afuera! It’s amazing time to be alive right now. And look at all these around at all these crook politicians screaming because it’s time to finally have accountability for taxpayer money and their money laundering operation is over.

"The consensus of liberals seems to be that big, tyrannical government controlling everything is good, as long as it a democrat party president or entrenched liberal bureaucracy."

In the late 1700s, the Jesuits said, "Give us your children until they are 7 and we'll have them for life." This is a common theme that was used in Germany and Japan in the 1920s/1930s, North Korea, ect. The Liberals = The Blue Shirts, and it has been ongoing since the DOE was created by Jimmy Carter, and bolstered by the MSM, and we are now ranked like #32 when in the 1970s we were #1.

Companies that go from #1 to the bottom either collapse or reorganize (like GE & IBM).

Conservatives and libertarians have been asking to ace the department of Ed since its inception. Even though maga folks are slow and dull, it’s the one thing I agree that can probably be eliminated due to redundant wasteful spending by the beurocraps.

^Said the suicidal wannabe pimp who shows us every day how much he hates women. A product of a school system run by the Dept of Ed. spells words like a stupid 7-year-old: b e u r o c r a p s. Try B U R E A U ......

===> "For K-12, blue states will do OK. Red states will go from bad to worse - any kid who doesn't have rich parents and goes to school in a red state will face a lot of the negative consequences. But hey, at least The 10 Commandments will be posted on the walls."

Nina, that's just silly. The DoE does not set curriculum standards and never has. That is a function of the states. It's primary role is supposed to be data collection, allocating federal education funds as directed by Congress and to pursue legitimate violations of federal laws relating to education.

Enough is enough. Congress should simply block grant the money to state DoEs and let them figure out how best to allocate it. True civil rights violations can still be pursued by the DoJ. And any "reinterpretations" of civil rights statutes can be handled by the outfit that is supposed to do the legislating, which of course is Congress.

Oh, and one the red state vs. blue state comparison of education, times are changing. Florida is now ranked #1 in Education by U.S. News and World Report. My kids are all enrolled in public schools here and they are receiving a top notch education, free of the ridiculous nonsense that is increasingly infecting many of the schools in the blue states.

But the DoE has morphed into a beast stuffed full of progressive policy wonks who are endlessly trying to use their role as a funding traffic cop to strong arm schools into complying with their interpretations of federal civil rights laws. This is especially true whenever a Dem President is in power.

I guess I’m conflicted on public education. The public schools suck in Florida, and as a result I spent more than $1 million of after-tax income to get my kids from pre K through 12th grade at very expensive private schools, and this is after paying high property taxes to fund the public schools.

I don’t regret this for a moment, but what about everyone who can’t shell out $40K +/- per year for private schools? We can’t raise future generations of uneducated kids. Will scuttling the dept of education make public schools better?

===> "The public schools suck in Florida..."

Maybe in your part of Florida. But in my area they are excellent.

Iknow, to add, the K-8 my kids attended was a top 1% school as judged by standardized test scores and their High School is in the top 300 public high schools in the nation as ranked by U.S. News and World Report. Maybe you just needed to live in a better place, lol.

In very blue Massachusetts the solution to too many children failing the MCAS test, for which passing was required to graduate, was not to force unionized teachers to actually show up and teach, instead of shpwing up occasionally for political indoctrination, was to vote the test out. The Department of Education is a Jimmy the asshole Carter creation.

"Florida is now ranked #1 in Education by U.S. News and World Report."

My post was clearly about K-12, not postsecondary education. That is why I prefaced my post with, "For K-12." Blue states do generally have better K-12 public education. Even by that same source, Massachusetts is ranked #1 for K-12, followed by New Jersey, Connecticut, New Hampshire, and New York. Florida managed to snag #10, but even Illinois is ranked higher than that.

The schools in Florida are not uniform, parts of Florida have excellent K-12 schools other areas the schools are not very good, St John’s County where Rick Dugan is has excellent schools and facilities, right next door Duval County is terrible where I live Palm Beach County is a huge area, with the schools in several cities being excellent, and the rural areas in the county are poorly rated. Florida needs some sort of system control, to bring the public schools into some form of parity. That’s pretty typical of southern states, there is a huge difference between the wealthier enclaves and the poorer ones.

It's weird watching Red states keep bending over to fuck themselves again and again.

California and NY have their own DoE that will pick up slack. But poor people will continue to suffer in red states that don't have rigorous departments and services, more than they already do.

I've heard a lot of stories of people leaving California for cheaper states and being shocked how bad schools are there.

Yup, they know this will keep red states stupid and they need their poorly educated voters.

It's also interesting that Florida ranks second to last in average teacher pay. Only West Virginia is lower, so if adjusted for cost of living, FL is even worse. All bottom 10 states in teacher pay are red states. Shocking.

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@James: All the states have a Department of Education or an agency that serves a similar function. And you should be careful in touting CA as a model. It ranks #37 in K-12 education as measured by U.S. News, along with Oregon. Years of watering down standards will do that and social experiments will do that. Same with nearby OR.

@Ski: What's happening in MA is sad. I received a fantastic education there and to this day it is still considered #1. Up to now, public schools in MA, CT and NY have resisted the worst of the asinine progressive policies that have made CA and OR schools such a shit show. But that resistance seems to be eroding. Removal of the MCAS requirement is just the opening salvo. There are active efforts in schools systems in all three of these high achieving northeastern states to eliminate standardized tests along with AP classes and other advanced programs for high achievers, all in the name of "equity." Stay tuned.

Can someone tie this back to strip clubs for me? Does eliminating the DoE make strip clubs better or worse? How and why?

@Nina: Currently number 10 and rising quickly. As opposed to CA, which is currently at 37 and dropping. And see what I wrote above to Ski about MA, CT and NY. They won't remain in those top spots for much longer if they keep marching down the paths that they are walking.

^ yes if the girls don’t get a good education then they need to strip in order to make a living

^ It's incredibly sad and the people at fault are those whose sole focus is money. We're top 20 in Massachusetts where I live, but we spend what they spend per pupil in Lawrence. Lawrence is bottom 5 and nationally we're top .06% in achievement versus cost per pupil.

===> "The schools in Florida are not uniform, parts of Florida have excellent K-12 schools other areas the schools are not very good."

Sure 25, but that's the same in every state in the country.

In the case of Florida, it certainly isn't for lack of resources. Every kid in Florida is being taught to the same standardized curriculums and has access to countless free tools and resources fully funded by the state. Heck any kid in the state can even take AP and honors classes online in countless subjects for free courtesy of the Florida Virtual School, which they can import into their high school transcripts. They can also earn free college credits courtesy of dual enrollment programs with the state community college system. Every single kid in the state has access to all of this.

All of this is possible because Florida has dedicated all of its net lottery system proceeds solely to educational funding. It was a condition designed to earn passage of a state lottery system by voters back in the 80s. By state Constitutional decree, FL politicians can't divert it to any other use. So degenerate gamblers are paying for what is now the top public university system in the country, A K-12 system which provides a plethora of in-person and online educational opportunities, cheap public college tuition rates (UF in-state tuition is about half of what UConn charges) and additional college scholarships for hundreds of thousands of Florida's best and brightest HS kids.

But what no school system can do is to change what these kids are dealing with at home, including lack of parental oversight, support and other resources. Again though, this is a universal issue affecting all school systems across the country.

"But what no school system can do is to change what these kids are dealing with at home, including lack of parental oversight, support and other resources."

Yeah, and this is a great example of why free school lunch is obviously necessary for a good learning environment that addresses all kids' needs.

Nina, even here in what has become deep red Florida, I doubt you'd find much resistance to providing meals to hungry school children. 😉

What we do object to is wasteful programs, like those supposed "emergency" program that provided pretty much every child in the country a free school lunch whether they needed the help or not. We also don't need a bloated federal DoE to administer a subsidized lunch program.

That's a really valuable contribution Icey. Equal parts vague and stupid. 😉

Everyone here whining about getting rid of the department of education also supports illegal aliens flooding in to use up more resources. How do you spell hypocrite? P r o g r e s s i v e.

Read stuff on Mike Benz on X. It's amazing all the dot connecting going on. This USAID scam is probably the biggest government scandal ever. It's all a Truman Show. And our tax money tens of billions of dollars pays for all of it.

@RickDugan I’m not going to disagree that there is a nurture as well as a nature component to this, but I’m going to point to some facts that have a lot to do with my points. First off in the wealthier more developed areas the schools are new and modern, in many of the older poorer areas the schools are in poor shape, with kids still in modular classrooms some of them from the 1960s. My point is resources are not allocated equally throughout the state, nor the counties, some areas have more political clout and they get more resources, so yes true that better educated families are a better place for our kids to get ahead but still some places need more funding despite the lottery proceeds being raised, plenty of schools are not up to standards, so all things being equal there is a need for an advocate, especially in challenged areas of our state and places that need more attention and resources to catch up to the rest of us.

25: Florida funds based on student enrollment and gives every district across the state exactly the same amount per kid. For fiscal year 2024-2025, that's $5,330.98 per enrolled student. That's on top of the $2,371 per student that the federal government provides to each district. So each district is receiving $7,700 per kid even before kicking in dollar one from property and local sales taxes.

I have to wonder how much financial mismanagement and county spending priorities have to do with why the school districts you're referring to are in such dire shape. For the most part we are not talking about expensive urban settings here. The counties already own these buildings and most of the teachers are making less than 65k per year. Are they simply choosing to spend on things other than their schools?

Before we start thinking about advocates demanding yet more money for the schools, perhaps we should be thinking about forensic accountants to audit these counties' books to find out where the money is going. I mean seriously now.

My vanilla job puts me in the front row to see what happens as a result of all this. Thank goodness for the strip club and large natural titties, so that I can witness all of it with minimal fear.

Good video on Milton Friedman if you haven’t seen it keep or cut government agencies m.youtube.com

What we are seeing with DOGE, USAID, the Education department and more is all part of what the country voted for last year. We wanted smaller government that would be smarter with our money and exert less control over our lives. There is absolutely no benefit to Americans by giving our money to queer groups in Croatia or funding a Baghdad Sesame Street. The DoE is more massive than any of that, while providing worse results while exerting the most (and mostly negative) influence over the nation's children. Forcing daughters into dressing rooms with men or to compete against men in sports (where these girls have been maimed and injured), along with woke indoctrination in the classroom, were the steps too far which brought this immoral behavior to the public square for discourse and eventual rebuke. Instead of attempting to understand and addressing the parents' concerns, the DoE doubled down and worked with the weaponized justice dept to attack and criminalize this dissent. This is intolerable, and the Dept of Education has got to go.

To argue that this will further disadvantage the failing blue district schools is an illegitimate argument. You could turn the schools into palaces, with the latest technology and the greatest teachers, and have barely any improvement in results and performance. That problem originates at home with subsidized unwed mothers, every child from a different absentee father, and a culture which places more import on drip, bling, and WAP rather than hard work and innovation. That problem is more interconnected and generational than can be solved under a single administration and would require sustained institutional and cultural change. The bottom line is that throwing good money after bad at those school districts would be exactly the type of wasteful spending that we voted have changed.

I truly wonder how the people here advocating to piss away the taxpayers' money feel about voluntarily giving to charity and if they do and how much. I do know that in very blue, very democratic pasrty controlled we are the best .... at not giving to charity. Yup, 50 states and we give the 50th most of all. Luckily, we have high taxes so those who are hooked up with the right political party can become rich secretly. This is typical of all blue states: My freind now owns a dump truck. He gets paid $35.00 an hour in pay from his employer who rents his truck for $45.00 an hour as well. That's on a private pay job where someone gives a shit about not spending their own money. On a prevaling wage job (euohemism for cheating state job) He gets paid $51.00 an hour and $66.00 an hour for his truck. These jobs take 30% longer as well. same exact job: wait in line to get filled. Drive 4 miles. Wait in line to empty. He "worked" 12 hours yesterday, 9 hours of waiting, 18 miles of driving. 3 hours of holding a shovel so the low paid workers don't hate him.

I'm not advocating piss away taxpayer money, I am pointing out there is a real disparity in outcomes, someone needs to figure out how to make outcomes more equal, that doesn't necessarily mean that there is no validity to either argument. I don't think you can fix these outcomes by throwing money at them, there has to be a baseline, so the opportunity is equal, if that were tested and found true, the outcomes would be acceptable. No body is owed anything except fairness, and I don't think the system the way it is accessed is fair.

@RD Just to inform you there is a fuckton of financial mismanagement. and many of these smaller counties prioritize personal self enrichment, but you still can't compare a county like St. Johns which is getting rich from the developers with many of the smaller and less desirable places that aren't getting the attention of more sophisticated management, I can tell you from past experience in the construction industry, the grift in the shadows is tremendous.

Everyone already has equal opportunity. Arguments could be made that urban students have greater opportunity than rural students because they have public transportation - buses and trains with taxpayer-funded passes- to take them to libraries and extracurricular programs. The problem is that their families and peer groups place little value in education and personal enrichment.

The left loves to cry about "opportunities", which is a distraction. Everyone has equal opportunity with their peers. The left is actually upset about the lack of equal outcomes, which is impossible to achieve. Any attempt at such achievement results in socialism which then devolves into Animal Farm - All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

I would ask the liberals who cry about the inequal opportunities- what ave you done about it? What skin have you put in the game? If you are retired and have free time- have you offered to tutor, mentor, or big brother? Have you organized chess leagues, diversion leagues, SUP leagues? No, you have not. Liberals love to tell other people how their taxes should be spent, but refuse to invest anything extra from their own pockets.

The disconnect is simply this: The left relies on the Government to provide equal results instead of equal opportunities, so the poor end up with neither. Further, if it was just a matter of money and where you were born, then no child of the wealthy would ever fail, yet a large percentage manage to do just that.

^ so essentially you didn’t read what I wrote, just repeated your own thoughts answer my question on point about how do we ensure that opportunity is equal, not this endless the left yada yada bloviating. There needs to be a measurement system in place that allows for this to be essentially fair. Does a blind person or a deaf person need additional resources to compete on a level playing field or are you just saying fuck them if they’re not able because of whatever it’s not your problem.

My point was simply that after 60 years of throwing away money on a problem that worsens every year indicates that government is not the solution. Being poor seems to have become a badge of honor. Just like being stupid, depressed, fat, lazy and being dissatisfied with you gender. When being educated, loyal, hard working, thrifty etc. come back into fashion, then and only then will thing's change.

Career bureaucrats have created a system where failure is rewarded while ambition and achievement are punished. This is clearly established in every woke, DEI, CRT, leftist program and policy. We need to bring back individual accountability and civic pride to combat the cultural rot that has our country teetering on the precipice. Everyone wants an excuse why the fail and escape consequence when they do. That can't happen anymore. Truth and accountability have to expand beyond the Executive Branch and into congress and the states and cities. That's the challenge

@skibum Government is never the solution for most problems, but we still need a mechanism to enforce standards, we know for a fact, that without checks and balances any system will eventually become corrupt, most people will if they think they’ll get away with it will just keep taking advantage of an unintentional loophole and enforcement of laws is necessary. The proof is the welfare system it’s not that there aren’t people that legitimately need help, it’s that the grifters exploit the system to the detriment of the people who truly need and deserve assistance.

^ I couldn't agree more, but government corruption is unresolveable as long as both sides, fight against the corruption of the other side while protecting their corruption with our lives. A lot of what Trump is doing is wrong, but those criticizing supported Biden's open borders and canceling of student debt, so their complaints are meangless. Same with whiny bitch Trump criticizing the Drmocrats using the Court's to go after him, while he plans on doing the same thing.
I oftentimes wonder why I appear to be the only person who notices the giant fork in this country indicating we're done.

^ maybe you think we’re done because you have no children, I feel that I have created something that will last and my children and hopefully grandchildren will enjoy what I have created for them.

25, you can never make outcomes more equal without hurting high achievers in the process. Indeed it is that faulty logic which has led to so many movements in blue states to eliminate standardized testing and A/P/honors academic tracks.

The ideal is to make opportunities more equal so that all may benefit from the availability of these options. IMO FL has done that to the greatest realistic extent possible.

FL is: (1) Funding a good chunk of each kid's public OR PRIVATE education (generous per student donations and universal school vouchers); (2) supporting a completely free virtual school with real assigned teachers to fill in any academic gaps at the local schools, which is paid for 100% by the state completely separate from its brick and mortar school district funding (Florida Virtual School, which offers Honors and AP options included); (3) giving solid academic achievers what amounts to a free college education in the best public university system in the country (Bright Futures Program); (4) Has a program separate from school vouchers to allow low income kids to escape failing schools (Step Up Program); AND (5) offers dual enrollment free college credits to every HS kid in the state through its community college system.

I mean FFS man, what more can a state realistically be expected to do? What other state do you know that does all of this?

This of course is in addition to the plethora of other free resources now available to school children. At least here in Florida, every school child can use Microsoft Office for free with a student account provided by the school. They can also access a variety of other resources, like additional instruction lessons and practice sheets from Khan Academy.

Now sure, St. Johns County definitely has some nice new shiny buildings and offers a lot of non-academic opportunities that kids in poorer counties may not have, like a variety of athletic, music and other non-academic programs. But any kid in the state, run down school building or not, can take AP Calculus or Physics and/or earn several free college credits, regardless of whether the local school has the teachers and facilities or not.

^It's the exact opposite. I don't have children because we're done. I have always known that. The day after Thanksgiving this year I will actually attend a high school class reunion. First time in 40 years, but I want to be there when they open the time capsule and read what we wrote in 1975. I was emphatic that I would be childless because the world in 50 years would be so awful that I could not justify bringing children into it. I feel bad sometimes that the only thing I ever predicted correctly was that. 12/73 I decided to never have children. A decision I have never regretted, even for a nanosecond.

^ unlike you I always wanted to have children, unfortunately my first wife was taken from me when my children were small as a result and probably because of this, my children are very important to me and I’ve never regretted having them not even for a second. Life is funny sometimes you get exactly what you want and don’t know it, other times what you get is the exact opposite of what you think you want.

^ I get it. I had 3 firm rules: 1) No kids; 2) never get married; and 3) never work for myself. In baseball a .333 average is pretty good. Not sure it translates to real life, but getting married was the single best thing I ever did, followed by never having kids. I did end up a step-father and when my brother died I took over as a father figure for my niece.

A good friend of mine got similar advice from a cougar he had a fling with while we were in college. She told him that to live a full life, he should never have kids or get married, try avoid owning a home but a condo would be okay, and to get a job which would let him travel. He swears by it and has led a Sinclair level life of SCs, FKKs, and tail from around the globe. It's pretty much the opposite of what I've done to craft my ideal life.

The point is that there is no one right answer. Part of it is going to be finding out what works for you, and part of it fitting yourself into the circumstances where you find yourself. If you get it right, you have a shot at enjoying life.

The DOE does not set curriculum, that is done by the states, or make rules about bathrooms. Their biggest expenses are college scholarships for low income and funding special education. You can look it up but that would take too much work. Obviously people who go to college vote blue so they need to stop that funding. As far as special education, does anyone really think if you give the MAGA states money for special education they will spend it on kids with disabilities, no chance. As far as Michelle, when she pushes for healthy food and less sugar, it is horrible, but the group who hated light bulbs that will last 25 years loves the idea when RFK ex heroin addict suggests it

Oh by the way, the DOE does not provide free school lunches, that is the department of agriculture.

@longb: The DoE currently enforces Title IX, which most definitely involves bathroom rules when you try to interpret the legislation to prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender identity. You can look it up but that would take too much work. There is a reason why several states sued to block this ridiculous reinterpretation.

As far as Michelle Obama, this is what happens when Ivory Tower academics don't listen to input from the front lines before rolling out dramatic policy changes. It is the Law of Unintended Consequences.

As was reported amply in the press, and also observed firsthand by friends of my family, who were volunteering to help our local schools as lunch monitors, kids were throwing the food away. School cafeterias are simply not equipped to produce high quality and tasty super healthy food. Kids were going hungrier than ever because the food they were being served was barely edible. The salt, sugar, and fat guidelines that schools had to comply with were simply too stringent.

So what do you think those low income kids were doing to supplement? Likely eating cheap candy that they smuggled into school or binging when they got out. It didn't help that the Obama Administration also decided that it was a good idea to allow SNAP cards to be used at fast food restaurants. So no doubt when little Jamal got home from school ravenous because the lunch they served was inedible, he grabbed his Mom's SNAP card and went across the street to binge at his neighborhood McDonalds. Again, the Law of Unintended Consequences.

^ I’m trying not to prejudge what’s going to happen, Musk is a pretty smart guy, and I don’t think too much about the Dept. of Education, as far as I see they appear to be just another bunch of bureaucrats that take advantage of the money, that passes through the department. We’ll see how this shakes out, maybe it’s time to just pass the money directly to the individual states without a middleman to take a percentage out of payments. That said we need a strong, honest, and independent, Inspector General type office in each state to audit the funds and be sure that these funds are properly spent, and accounted for.

Title IX was passed by congress. It is a law. You want to change it pass a new law that allows discrimination.

Longb: Title IX was indeed passed by Congress. And you're right that only Congress can change it.

But where you fell behind the rest of the class is not understanding that it was the DoE was the outfit trying to change in a way that ran completely counter to the law's original intent. Feel free to catch up anytime. Google is your friend.

Classic MAGA, they get their panties in a wad over gays "again" so they want to end the DOE which spends its money on three major items. College scholarships for low income students, aid for low income school districts and paying for special education. That is what they do. They do not provide restroom monitors

Longb, are you being intentionally dense or is this really a natural state for you? The funding programs you mentioned to local schools represent, on average, about 8% of local school districts' budgets. When they believe that a school or state is violating Title IX, one of the multiple enforcement tools they have is to withhold federal funding.

So assuming that the DoE's patently illegal interpretation of Title IX wasn't challenged, what do you think was coming next for the states that have already passed laws keeping boys out of girls bathrooms and locker rooms?

Go as slowly as you need to. And try to focus on the issue rather than deflecting with endless MAGA accusations. 😉

Oh, and to add long, the stick is even bigger when dealing with colleges. Colleges are heavily dependent on Stafford loans and Pell grants. Imagine the rock and a hard place position that every college in a state with laws to keep penises out of female bathrooms would have been in if the Title IX interpretation had held.

It would be nice if special education guidelines could be reformed in a way because from what I can see, the title 1 districts seem to determinedly under-identify those who need services (and dismantling the DoE will no doubt even further encourage that MO). In some cases, the districts aren’t even doing this out of malice. I know of one school that has already blown through 3 resource teachers this year, so those students are definitely not getting their minutes met.

And the high socioeconomic status districts are full of parents who bring in their lawyers and advocates to get their kid diagnosed with anything and everything that could get them IEP protection and not face consequences for acting up in school or to demand things like unlimited test retakes and reduced workload.

I know it was promised that SPED will become converted to a block grant, and in some ways there are good possibilities there. It’s pretty darn awful that for decades IDEA has been full of mandates, and yet never delivered on its promise to fund the 40% of special education services it’s supposed to. It makes things less hypocritical on a government that has for a long time imposed unrealistic expectations on districts without help, and in turn the districts impose unrealistic expectations on sped teachers without help.

Except the karents are probably going to use this to hoard even more advantages for themselves because without the clear guidance (even if severely flawed), they are in the best position to grab the grant cash for themselves. And conveniently, once those children graduate high school, their high needs babies will suddenly get dropped into a 504 plan (because universities recognize 504s but not IEPs).

Eff the kids who could have been better helped to learn things like functional living skills and gain independence in adulthood.

google is your friend, bottom line cut funding so billionaires will get a tax cut. Its a smoke screen, just like I never heard of project 2025

No school district, university, or state has ever lost Title IX funding. In the 40 years since Title IX was enacted, no educational institution or state has ever lost its federal funding for noncompliance with Title IX. administrative law judge and review by a federal court.

@Long: The threat of funding loss is just the nuclear option if all else fails. The mere threat is enough to spook, especially at the university level, as is the very real possibility of dealing with DoE and private expensive lawsuits.

I guess when you Googled just enough to be a half informed jackass, it never occurred to you to keep going to find out why so many states cared if Title IX was as toothless as you believe. The answer is that it isn't. Keep Googling. Maybe start with "Title IX Enforcement Actions" and "Private rights of action under Title IX."

Title IX is discrimination in and of itself. Time to get rid of it completely as Unconstitutional discrimination.

Title IX is a law, pass a new law if you want. The point is very rich people do not want to pay public education because they have their kids in private schools, so they throw out all these curve balls like gender bathrooms. And Team Maga eats it up. Question for the board, after that week of pointing out all this terrible liberal spending, how much did we spend to send Trump first to Mar Lago and then to the Super Bowl

You can’t strictly blame the Dept of Education for the decline in student achievement. There also has been a proliferation of a culture and population that generally does not value education and are not academic achievers. Take them out of the mix and the U.S. would have achievement rates like the more homogeneous countries that out-perform us.

I’ll try to find a picture of what this neighborhood looks like today. When this picture was taken the city’s schools were much better than today: fr.pinterest.com