The Crypt Keeper Pardons His Criminal Son

I just hope you have the same zeal for justice when they go after the literal convicted felon the just voted into office

No, not zeal. The Dems and Left only function on feelings, emotion and Machiavellian Rule.

Trump's cases were raw political lawfare. Hunter lied on a federal firearms form and his gun was tossed in a dumpster near a school. He didn't pay taxes on payola he got as a unregistered foreign agent. This was like Capone owning judges in Chicago.

Trump's charges are being dropped, the only holdout is the Frankenstein Felonies in NYC that keep being pushed out month after month so Bragg and James can get re-elected. Just convict. I'm fine with that as that is how the system works, then it gets appealed. Fine.

What Trump was charged with is no different than others politicians have done and never charged. Try an explain how Biden had classified documents dating decades that he had no authority to have. Same for Pence. Charging Trump and not the others was a travesty of justice.

I hope the new AG, who ever it is, releases the audio, and if there was video, of the Biden Interview that was blocked by Wingman Garland.

BTW, Trump won the Popular and Electoral Votes. The Dems lost, suck it bro. and it is going to be a rough 2-4 years for them, and probably more as the Dem Party was hit with multiple MK-48s and MIRVs.

You'll be fine and better off.

Puddy: As far as I know it covered taxes and the gun verdicts as sentencing was due like this week. Once Crypt Keeper is out on 20-Jan-2025, I hope the DoJ will be referred to by the House to get into Biden, Inc, The Bag Man and his crew. Maybe they'll even fine a horse's head.

Now, let's see if Crypt Keeper will try to prophylactically pardon himself. This has never been tried so off the SC if he does. This guy makes shame look like a good trait.

Guess being added to Mt Rushmore is off the table.

The pardon states any crime committed from 2014 through December 1, 2024.

So Hunter had two hours to murder the entire Kardashian family. Go Hinter go!

^ I'd think a pardon would have to be specific to each "thing". Hmmmm.

Things a person hasn't been formally charged and convicted with yet might still be up for prosecution; this may go to the SC in the next few years.

Things like POTUS pardoning power need to be defined by the SC as they have never been tested. Bureaucracy power, and POTUS immunity have been defined.

More fun to come that the Dems will be Karens about as the Ponzi Scheme stuff they have built starts to erode.

^ I too hope the House refers all of Joe Biden's documentation they've collected to the new AG and that s/he gets aggressive. I also hope the new AG releases the audio and video of the testimony Biden did so we can see what it was like and what was redacted from the transcript Garland has said they did.

Sure, I'm quite happy if the new Administration beats the SHIT of out Biden like an Orca playing with a seal. What Biden and his lawfare crew did to Trump, his close associates and Jan6 people is just horrible.

I will say the Jan6 people who ransacked and did destruction need to be prosecuted, the ones who just wandered around, no. One that I personally know was prosecuted as she didn't go through the front door metal detector: $100K fine, 6 months home detention, ankle bracelet and no Internet access, plus the several $100K she had to pay for lawyers.

Biden's pardon of Hunter was not only overdue, it was also a reminder that the United States only has one president at time. Trump will be inaugurated on January 20, 2025, like it or not Biden is still president until Trump takes the oath of office on that date.

^It was a reminder that biden, like every other Democrat is a fucking disgrace and a liar, supported only by the very stupid. ^^People like you are why Trukp is President douchebag. Hey post some more pics of fat, ugly, plastic foreigners.

^ Nah it just proves that Biden is still president, and actually it's people like you why Trump got elected, you voted for him, knowing he was a liar and a convicted felon.

Anyone who has a child of his own and is complaining about this is either a hypocrite or a disloyal cunt. Who wouldn't have done this to protect his child if he could? I know that I would. Any parent who would do otherwise is a disloyal piece of shit.

I’m taking it like a man, doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to have an opinion, and as far as I’m concerned I have no problem with Biden doing what he is able to help his son. This is just a phony excuse to try and bully folk that have a different view of what is going on. Trump pardoned his son in law’s father and is attempting to nominate him ambassador to France, there’s your recent precedent.

Biden is vile. His corruption doesn’t even have the facade of “the ends justifying the means” e.g. “we have to cheat in the election to keep Hitler out of office for democracy and what not.” No. His corruption was to enrich himself and his trashy family. He’s the biggest piece of shit ever to hold that office. Fucking serial liar who will reflexively and casually tell any lie that’s in his interest.

Any elected official whp puts their family ahead of their obligatiomn to the Constituion is a fucking rat, a traitor and has unamerican assholes as supporters. We're in a war in the Ukraine because of the cum stains who support Biden and crimes such as this. The idea crimes are ok when its due to your "family" makes those who think that way a piece of shit thug, not different than any other criminal, except for their sore back from patting themselves.

===> "The idea crimes are ok when its due to your "family" makes those who think that way a piece of shit thug"

It's "thug" behavior to protect your child when you have the power to do so? Do you have children dude? I ask because I understand this thinking if you don't. But if you do have children then I have to question what kind of man you are if you could sit back and let them be thrown in prison when you could stop it with a stroke of a pen.

I'm saying all of this as someone who can't stand Biden. Flipping his finger to his detractors and protecting his POS son is probably the only thing he's done in the last 4 years that I actually respect.

^ you got it right, Rick anyone who wouldn’t do whatever they could for their children is unAmerican. Here in America we don’t worry about what others think when it comes to protecting our children no matter how old they are.

He didn’t hesitate with an emphatic “No!” when he was asked in the past if he would pardon his son. What’s that?

25: Where i come from, a lot of "uns" definitely apply here, but "unAmerican" is the least of them. Try unfathomable, unforgivable and unmanly for starters. Your children don't stop being your children just because they grow up. They are what we leave behind when we are long gone.

Of course he protected his son. Any man who isn't a cunt would have done the same.

^ I agree with you just seems to me a lot of unAmerican comments being thrown around, which is just a whole bunch of crap.

If you think lying to hundreds of millions of people as the most powerful and trusted (lol) person in the world to keep a 50 year old son (he’s not a kid or even a young man) from having to answer for crimes (not in any related to the service of the country), you’re confused about honor.

Wesley Snipes and thousands of other people served multi-year jail terms for less than tax evasion than POS.

@Studme: Do you have children? I'm guessing not. If you did, you would understand. You don't leave someone you conceived and raised from a newborn to the wolves if you can do something about it.

In fact, when Biden first refused to pardon Hunter, it made me detest him even more. This past election, Biden lost the male vote by a wide margin. You had best believe that his unwillingness to protect his own son didn't help his cause.

IMO he grossly miscalculated when he told that lie. He did it no doubt in order to avoid delegitimizing the lawfare being waged against Trump, but IMO it backfired. He would have been better off pardoning both Hunter and Trump early on, making it clear that using the legal system for political purposes was unacceptable.

@Puddy: And if my 18 year old daughter called me after killing someone while driving drunk, I would still do all I could for her. Because that's what a father does for his children.

Biden protected his son because he could. I can't help but have respect for that.

Please spare me the “do you have kids? B.S. Do you know what percentage of American inmates have a mother and/or father? Take a wild guess.

^ Fuck society. And whatever harm you somehow believe it would cause her, it's far less harm to her than having her rot in a cell for 15+ years.

I don't respect Biden for doing this but I certainly understand why he would. I also think that anyone who believed him last summer when he said he wouldn't pardon Hunter is an idiot.

@Studme: What the fuck does that have to do with whether a father should try to help a child if he can? You don't think that the parents of many of those inmates wish they could have prevented the incarceration of their children? At least the ones who had parents who give a shit, which sadly is often lacking for people who end up being life long criminals.

If I had a kid that went to jail for something similar to what Hunter did, I’d be even more enraged. People just want to be treated fairly. I occasionally have to discipline employees for misconduct. The union and employee generally accept it as long as its fair and consistent. When you deviate from that people get extremely angry and discipline falls apart. My suspicion is Joe Biden expects to die soon, has no belief in the afterlife, and knows his legacy is in the toilet. Only bright side is Hunter now can’t plead the 5th when questioned.

I’ve vote dem for my entire life. I’ve got to say I am pretty disappointed in what a piece of shit Joe Biden has turned out to be. Hiding the fact that he was unfit, then sitting on the candidacy for a month, and now pardoning his criminal POS son. Selfish and self interested. Not a good president, and at the same time handing Trump all the excuses he needs to prosecute or pardon whoever he wants. I’ll think of this every time there is a “least worse” candidate option.

Thanks for nothing, Joe Biden.

Mark Dice has a good video on this. Keep in mind Biden weaponized the Justice Department to go after his and the left's political enemies. He is and always has been a nasty douche.

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The idea that a father owes an obligation to prevent justice from being applied to criminals they have raised is so fucking ignorant it is astounding. No wonder there are so many criminals: there are so many shitty parents. The idea that if you have kids, it is ok to cheat, lie, steal, violate the law, harm others and pay no price because they are your kid is the reason I will never run out of work. Anyone who thinks like this is a terrible fucking shitty parent and pretty much typical of those who raise criminals.

When some future historian writes “The Rise and Fall of the USA”, this will be listed as a significant event that undermined trust in American institutions.

My guess is that he waited until after the election so as to not fuck up the democratic party.

@Ski: Your practice is thriving because the concept of family loyalty has diminished, not because a father does whatever he can to protect his child.

@Stud: Please dude, that's incredibly melodramatic. I doubt that almost anyone with a child can't distinguish this from normal circumstances. If anything, the lawfare waged against Trump has done far more to diminish trust in American institutions than a sitting President who understandably pardons his son to keep him out of prison.

^OMG. Do you know anyone with a relative in jail? No one with a kid or anyone they care about in jail for tax evasion will “distinguish” this. The Bidens went to great lengths to hide this income in very sophisticated ways. They were undone. Let justice be served.

Biden will probably blanket pardon his brother and any other family members who were part of their multimillion dollar influence peddling schemes before he leaves office. That will kill any investigations into such matters.

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===> "No one with a kid or anyone they care about in jail for tax evasion will “distinguish” this."

Of course they will distinguish this. Why you ask? Because almost all of them would have done the same damned thing for their own kids if they could have. Also, the President of the United States having unique powers and privileges is hardly news, lol.

BTW - Multimillionaire Hunter didn’t even pay his back taxes. Some crooked California lawyer looking for quid pro quo from the Big Guy paid them. WTF!!!?

I represented a 30-year-old guy who went over to the town pumps home to bang her. She was out banging someone else, so he raped the 15-year-old babysitter, or as his parents said: "all he did was fuck a little cheap whore." No different than Joe Biden. No different than what some people here would do, because the fucking garbage that they raised to be a criminal, needs a role model and an enabler. What Biden did is unfathomable to any decent true American. The rest of you are just faggy versions of Putin, who would definitely do it.

Of course Biden had to take back his promise not to pardon Biden because Harris lost. He agreed to quietly drop out of the Presidential race if she promised, among other things, to pardon Hunty. Sleazy, arrogant fucks.

Joe did not pardon Hunter. Yes, you read that correctly. Joe Biden did not pardon Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden did not plead guilty to the charges (after the sweetheart plea deal was rejected by the court) because he recognized what he did was wrong and felt true remorse for his crimes. This is all about protecting the Biden crime family.

By pleading guilty, Hunter Biden removed all opportunity for a criminal investigation to drill down into his illegal activity to find the link that would prove he was acting as the front man for Joe Biden and blow the lid off the entire criminal enterprise which provided malicious foreign actors direct access to the vice presidency and later president of the United States. At the time of that plea, anyone with a brain should have seen that Joe would pardon Hunter. (Trump called it. When asked if he would pardon Hunter, he said it would depend on the facts of the investigation, but he believed that Joe would pardon him first.)

Biden issued a blanket pardon to Hunter not for any specific charges or crimes, but a blanket pardon -i.e. blanket immunity- for anything done between 2014 and 2024. This is after he joined the Burisma board in Ukraine. Joe Biden is protecting himself, his son continues to be the front man.

If Biden was smart he would have announced he was pardoning Hunter and also acknowledge all the politically motivated LawFare against Trump and associates and calling for an end to all the Federal and State prosecutions of Trump. Biden would have been an empathetic hero had he done that.

Again, that’s if Biden was smart. He’s not.

“ The rest of you are just faggy versions of Putin”… LOL quote of the year!

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Right, so we have a few authoritarian-promoting posters here that believe if a parent has the ability to shield his or her child from being prosecuted for the crimes he or she has committed, they also have the right to do so. Might makes right, is that the argument? Who else here can remember the "Affluenza" defense and how ludicrous that was?

The same argument also gives the President the right to pardon himself. If a president can pardon the first son from any crimes in a given period - known and unknown- why could the president not grant himself the same immunity? SCOTUS would love having to rule on that one. It is a little thing for a bunch of idiots on an internet forum dedicated to strippers and sex workers to abstractly debate abusing power to protect one's child; but to see the leader f the free world, the most powerful country in the world, fully act out the mentality of "laws for thee but nor for me" and using the same language and rational he refutes to protect his child while harassing his political opposition is more damaging than a hundred riots in protest of election results (and there were hundreds from 2016 - 2021, January 6th was but one of these). The Republican congress cannot allow Biden's abuse of presidential privilege to deter them from uncovering his criminal activity. This precedent cannot stand unchallenged.

Gamma, might didn't make right here, the Constitution did. The Constitution doesn't limit the President's authority to pardon anyone he chooses to for any reason, including his own son.

As far as yet another Congressional witch hunt, when is enough enough? What is it with you angry hyper-emotional fucks who always want payback on political adversaries? When will some of you fuckers grow up and see the bigger picture, which is that the more this shit continues, the more it becomes a never-ending escalating circus on both sides? The lawfare, lawmaker investigations and other crap that has become all too common will just keep getting worse.

The last thing we need is yet another Investigation Congress. I would prefer them to be focused on getting the Trump agenda through. All that is accomplished by yet more investigations is to further polarize half the country into believing that the party in charge is abusing its power. Then, when Congress changes hands in the midterms, they'll feel amply justified in calling for yet more investigations of Trump. And so on, and so on, and so on...

I got a bunch of dick pics from Hunter. I think one of them is Joe's.

One thing Brandon said when he did this thing was that Bag Man Hunter was persecuted because he is a "Biden" - a political prosecution. The Biden WH created this DoJ w/Garland as The Wingman. Millions of Taxpayers' Dollars were spent on this Snipe Hunt. At the very end, Brandon does this Pardon. he BLAMED his own DoJ and allowed it to drag out for 4 years, and this includes the lies about the infamous laptop, and that no one is above the law. This makes Boss Tweed (D-NY) and Tammany Hall look like small time crooks.

So after he does this thing, he heads off to Angola - a visit he had promised to do, and waited for 3 years and 23 months. He jetted off right after the Pardon.

I hope this somehow finds it way to the SC. The SC dealt with Un-Constitutional actions by bureaucracies (Chevron case), they defined when a POTUS has immunity, and now the Pardoning process needs to be clarified. Watch, Brandon may Pardon himself and the entire Biden clan.

The Found Fathers didn't have MS Word, the quill pen really limited what they could write, and I support handwriting all legislation to keep it tight and precise; we have 16 million lines of IRS Tax Code - that's ridiculous.

Brandon and Doc Jill created Hunter and enabled his behavior, and used him as the Bag Man for Biden, Inc. That is evil for a parent, unless you are a Godfather or Capo, which clearly Brandon is..

Like I said, I hope the House on 20-Jan-2025 turns over all the evidence and data they collected the past 2 years over to the new DoJ AG and take it from there. What Brandon has done will affect POTUS behavior until an Amendment is passed to put some parameters on the Pardon Process, or if the SC gets a bite at that apple to help define what is and isn't proper. This has serious potential for evil.

Example: We all heard about immunity and that Trump would use SEAL Team 6 to whack opponents. What would prevent a POTUS to hire a Wise Guy to do just this, then allow the DOJ to prosecute, find them guilty then the POTUS pardons them. Outrageous, right? This is the type of strawman Dems and the MSM promote, only now Brandon has pushed the Pardon Power to a new boundary, or is there even a boundary?

If a world class brain surgeon had a child with an operable brain tumor, s/he wouldn't be allowed to do the surgery.

Imagine the reaction if Trump pardoned one of his kids the way Brandon did. The MSM would be the ultimate Karens for months.

To be clear, I'd say this about any POTUS who did this thing.

Roger Stone + Paul Manafort + Charles Kushner = Hunter Biden

Solid math? Tit for tat? 3 wrongs don't make a right?

Need more for the left side of the equation? Feel free to add: Duncan Hunter, Chris Collins, or Steve Stockman if needed.

I'm not ok with ANY of the above pardons btw. Just pointing out you fuck tards only look one way when crossing the street.

Congrats to Studme53! I don't know why I couldn't see the obvious answer for myself; that Biden was counting on Harris to win the election and pardon Hunter for him. Then he wouldn't have had to break his word. BUT, it didn't work out that way, so he had to solve the problem himself. Just break his word. Politicians do it so easily.

And that is why he found it so easy to turn his back on our friendly forces in Afghanistan. "I am the big shot and that can't do a fucking thing about it."

Meant to say "they", not "that". But also, this is why I might read a political discussion on a strip club discussion board. That is where the answers to life are.

The Hunter prosecutions were just Kabuki Theater to help with optics the DoJ looks like they are non-political knowing if a jury found him guilty a Dem POTUS could Pardon, and as a failsafe, Dad. The first attempt was that sweet plea deal he had 18 months ago that the judge said, WTH is this! In the case of Hunter, these were clear and solid felonies that other Americans had done time for, and they only prosecuted the simple ones, not the ones that could collapse Biden, Inc such as a non-registered foreign agent that would open a can of pythons.

So now we have Dems popping up saying how bad the Pardon is for The Party even though they knew all along about Biden, Inc and did nothing by ignoring it. Even Obama back told VP Biden to tone it down.

What we are witnessing is one of the most corrupt POTUS families ever escaping justice, and NOW The Party is worried. Oh, it'll survive, it always does as it depends, in their words, "on the stupidity of American voters and lack of transparency."

Pardons are not done. Hunter was up for sentencing. Next, the rest of the Crew will get Biden Pardon Cover before he is out, probably 8AM 20-Jan-2025 and he won't attend the Trump Inaguration. History needs to be severe on The Biden Family.

Maybe this will help get some parameters around the unlimited Pardon Powers via an Amendment. It won't be easy to do as it is the most powerful political tool a POTUS has.

The Dems & MSM need to look in the mirror: What they accused Trump of is exactly what Biden is and did.

@Rick

I disagree, profoundly, with everything you wrote. The Constitution gives Biden the ability. That makes it legal, it does not make it right. He broke his word, he lied from the Oval Office, he crawfished his son to protect his own ass.

Also, the democrat party machine and affiliated entities' lawfare against Trump, his family, his supporters, and his nominees are unconscionable and must be met in kind. Otherwise, it will continue and spread. Democrats are not smart people, they will only learn when it is done to them. The GOP has a history of keeping a stiff upper lip and taking the high road. The democrats have always fought dirty. When the GOP stays high, the dems slink away and do it again. Trump did not prosecute Hilary for her crimes because he wanted to set a unifying example. The dems rewarded him with predawn raids live on CNN, mugshots, rigged trials, and re-writing laws so he could be prosecuted and sued for bullshit. They need to be taught a lesson in a language they understand. Dems are classless scum. They need to be treated like such.

Seems to me that y’all want to lynch Hunter Biden, the rabid vitriol of many of these posts is why Joe Biden decided to pardon his son. I can’t blame him for wanting to protect his son from this group, I know if I had this group going after my kids I’d do everything in my power to protect them.

Pardon power was included in the Constitution as a final check on the judiciary. Given the amount of lawfare we've witnessed in recent years, with all too partisan judges actively supporting these outlandish actions, I'd say that it is as important today as it ever was.

Also, corruption is hardly limited to the Bidens. The Clintons were as corrupt as the day is long, brazenly so in fact by through their money laundering entity known as the Clinton Foundation. And if you dig hard enough, you can no doubt find plenty of ways in which both Trump's and the Bush family's commercial interests benefited from Presidential service.

The reason that it would be foolhardy to circumscribe pardon power or to go down the road of endless investigations of former Presidents all boils down to the peaceful transfer of power from one President to the next.

If a President has to fear political revenge upon himself, his family and other close associates, he will be much more tempted to try to retain power at all costs. Then we become like all Russia and countless banana republics across the world, where leaders will do whatever it takes to hold on to the tail of the lion. A little corruption is a small price to pay to prevent this from ever happening.

@25: "Seems to me that y’all want to lynch Hunter Biden, the rabid vitriol of many of these posts is why Joe Biden decided to pardon his son." You are living in the Twilight Zone as all Dems do when they spew outrageous BS.

Brandon and Doc Jill enabled Hunter from the time he was a child, to when he was booted out of the Navy for Blow, and then used him as a Bag Man. This is parenting?

@25: "...the rabid vitriol of many of these posts" yeah, Biden is a PL here,. PL for sure, just not what we define as a PL. He's been a PL his entire life.

Yeah 25iq, whatever you want to think. I am sure the Bidens and whichever judge was set to sentence Hunter read tuscl when determining where to send him for his prison term. You are as stupidly partisan and demented as Joe himself. You are the mark 1 mod 0 classless scum democrat base voter.

With regards to the theory that Biden had planned on Kamala pardoning Hunter and being forced by Kamala's loss to do it himself; the timeline disproves that theory. Biden has been stating for months, as far back as June, that he would honor the norms and institutions in the US and not pardon his son. He dropped out in July. It was hardly the first thing he lied about or defrauded the American voter, it is just the most recent revelation. He was planning on doing it as soon as he locked up the electoral votes and became a lame duck; there was simply no limit to how many lies he was willing to tell to win the election.

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@RD

1. had the Clintons been convicted of any crimes, Gore or whichever democrat held the oval office next would have pardoned them. Abuse of privilege. Pardon power being used to circumvent and avoid justice.

2. Refusing to pardon Trump, the democrat party attempted to prevent he peaceful transfer of power and prevent Trump from being eligible to run or appear on the ballot. The pardon power, or refusal to use it, was implemented here.

3. There is no reasonable scenario which any rational American can imagine where a president would be able to remotely attempt retention of power at all costs. SCOTUS would not allow it. Congress would not allow it. The DoJ and Armed Forces would not allow it. The governors of the individual states would not allow it. It is not worth proffering as an argument.

25iq is still locked on to TUSCL refreshing every second to see if I posted. I still live in his head rent-free and run his pathetic so-called "retirement".

His "retirement" is sitting on the toilet waiting for me to appear on line. Touch grass, loser.

^ Coming from the guy who’s number 4 on the most ignored list an insult is like a compliment. Weirdo get a life.

@mogul So you do want to be in the lynching mob, is that what you’re saying?

I know one thing: Joseph "ignorant thug" Biden has toppled Jimmy Carter to become the single worst President in history. The absolute worst, he was so bad he dragged dumbfuck Obama down from middle of the pack to top 5, by his continual cock sucking of our enemies. The funniest thing is that Biden hit the exacta: He is asos the single worst parent in history.

@gamma:

1. That's a stupid speculative comment. The important point is that nobody tried to prosecute them, despite the all too obvious low hanging fruit.

2} I broadly agree that they should never have pursued Trump, but two wrong don't make a right. This never-ending tit for tat behavior has to stop somewhere.

1. Out of everything, this is the most asinine thing you've said, which says something. Obviously you are not a student of world history. Democracies are fragile things and we are a young nation by historical standards. If the President could win the support of the military (likely by bribing and promoting key allies) he'd be a good chunk of the way there. It would also likely not happen in one fell swoop. First the election results would be deemed fraudulent and it would most likely snowball from there, in a series of steps orchestrated over time to neutralize opposition. I'm sure some national emergency would also be conjured up, like a threat posed by some foreign power. The Supreme Court and Congress both rely upon the executive branch to enforce their edicts, so they can't stand in the way. The states only have their respective national guards to call, but which states are going to want to wage a civil war against the U.S. military?

So no, if we want to ensure that we continue to having peaceful transitions of power, we need to be sure that departing Presidents don't feel threatened by potential retaliation.

We are a young nation in years and the oldest nation to continually have a democracy. Anyone ever wonder if all Trump is doing is making the rats called progressives pee down their legs? If I recall Trump said Biden pardoning Hunter was a good thing.

@25: "So you do want to be in the lynching mob, is that what you’re saying?"

No one said that, nor did I, aside from opinionators on MSLSD and The View. Is that were you got that? Put the hookah down and let your brain rot air out.

For all you progressives, liberals, socialists, TDS sufferers and radical Dems: Be sure to be near a bathroom and have plenty of fresh underwear on 20-Jan-2025. BTW, you'll be fine after 4 years.

What a bunch of Karens.

Oops. It looks like I broke Rick, and it did not take much. Go iron your polyester suit, douche, you can still be a pretentious, furry idiot in the morning.

Simple Truth: A convicted criminal is in the White House and he's appointing other criminals to his cabinet. The hypocracy (sp) of folks clutching pearls about a man pardoning his son is silly. Not a Republican or Democratic issue. An issue of law and rules. Period. Full Stop.

Technically he isn't "convicted" until he is sentenced, judge could still toss it. We have a few PL legal eagles here. And if this conviction is so important, it's curious how Judge Merchan has delayed sentencing since July. I suspect this reason is it would be appealed and work it's way the to SC where it would more than likely be tossed. This is political lawfare, no more, no less. Hunter committed real crimes people are actually in jail for.

This was a paper work Frankenstein'ed pile of felonies. He didn't lie on a federal firearms form, he didn't avoid paying taxes like Hunter admitted to.

If seeing him as a convicted felon POTUS helps you sleep well and feel better, good. Enjoy your Twilight Zone episode.

@mogul I never watch the TV shows you're referring to, (I get all my information from TUSCL) the foaming around the mouth, kind of gives many of you indoctrinated types away. There is a middle ground, and more of our fellow PLs agree with me than you realize.

@gamma: By "break" me do you mean goaded me into responding? You're a weird dude with a twisted way of thinking. But you're right - maybe I made the mistake of treating you like a person instead of a weird ass troll posting from his Mom's basement. My bad. 😉

Dugan youre not making any sense.

As far as a father protecting his son because he has the corrupt power to do so… is it moral or ethical absolutely not. Is it human and normal? Yes… and thats not something to brag about

The vast majority of people out there, would abuse their power and let their family members get away with stuff. Probably everyone would other than extremely religious or principled people.

The logic youre using is the equivalent of the parents of some of these criminals coming out saying they didnt do anything or saying they should be forgiven. If the world followed your logic, if a judge or jury accepted your line of thinking, we would have rampant corruption and society wouldn’t function as it should. Everyone would just be let off the hook for every crime because everyone has family members and friends who don’t want them getting punishment.

Your argument is completely one sided because youre able to put yourself in Bidens shoes and think about how you would also pardon your kids if you had the power to do so. I think you even mentioned wanting your daughter to escape if she killed someone driving drunk. The other side of that scenario is someone elses kid being killed in that accident.

As far as the ability to pardon, it makes no sense why the president would have that power, and that is an example of federal over reach in itself. Nobody should have the power to pardon anybody for any level of crime.

Additionally Dugan, its clear that you have absolutely no interest in the wellbeing of society as a whole, rather just the personal well being of family members and associates.

You dont want prostitution legalized, even though it would basically completely get rid of pimps and other crimes associated with prostitutes or their clients; i.e. massive societal benefits. Your reasoning for not wanting it legalized is because youre worried people may start soliciting college girls working retail stores or restaurants, lol. What i dont get is why not teach and train your kids to behave how you want them to behave, instead of wanting society wide laws and rules because youre worried some girl working retail wont be able to resist $100 or $200.

^^ not to hijack this thread, but what you said reminded me of a question I saw on Reddit.

It was a variation of the trolley car problem. The question is: “if you had the choice of killing 1000 people to save one member of your family, what would you do”

Overwhelmingly, it was 100% unanimous that people would kill the 1000 strangers.

I guess I was bit shocked by people’s answers

@RMD: "Society" will be just fine, lol. Almost anyone can understand the unique nature of a President pardoning his own son, even if they don't like it.

As far as the ability to pardon, you obviously ignored my comments further above. It makes perfect sense.

Finally, when did I say that I didn't want prostitution legalized? My issue with old dudes soliciting young girls in public venues has nothing to do with legalizing p4p, but rather involves common decency and respect. Young women should be free to go about their daily lives without creepy old dudes harassing them for paid sex. It's one thing for the girl to already be doing some type of adult entertainment work, like stripping, but quite another to solicit a girl who is just trying to finish her shift at her retail job site.

The two sides to this debate are the liberals who are desperate to justify Joe's actions as the act of any caring father and pivot to whataboutisms with Trump, and the conservatives who are adamant that Joe repeatedly lied and the blatant parallels in Joe's memo to that lawfare against Trump.

Even John Stewart wants to know why Joe wrote a pardon for any unknown incidents included in an 11-year period. This is not a narrow and precise pardon to address a miscarriage of justice, this is a get out of jail free card. Most Americans, even democrats in Congress and the media want to know the full story of wtf is going on. Biden is clearly hiding something. We can expect a legal challenge to be heard by SCOTUS, this is a question as serious as the qualified immunity case was.

@RD the reason it can be ignored regarding biden is because the pardon power is already available for every president to use, even though it technically shouldnt be available in the first place. The other reason is that his son wasnt a crazy murderer, robber or rapist, so its not such a big deal if he gets pardoned. But you provided an example of a parent pardoning their kid for killing someone while drunk driving. Every criminal and killer is also someones offspring, possibly sibling, parent niece nephew aunt uncle etc. the purpose of law and order is to have unbiased rules that apply to everyone

I guess i was mistaken, I thought you said you didnt want it legalized or perhaps you said if it were to be legalized it should be restricted only to certain red light districts.
As far as the comparison of the girl working a retail shift vs girl working a club… the thing is theres a huge % of both potential buyers and potential providers who currently arent in the prostitution market because of social concerns, professional concerns, legalities, etc. as you know from seeking, there are in fact, precisely some girls who do work the retail jobs, restaurant jobs etc yet are open to p4p. Anyway it should still be handled at the private business level. We have freedom of speech yet almost any restaurant or retail store will kick you out if you go up to another customer and start cursing at them yelling at them etc.

What Biden did was criminal, not unethical and it was done to cover up the fact that we are supporting Ukraine so that the thug Biden family isn't exposed as traitors and hung. This was about a scumbag named Joe protecting himself, not his in-bred moron son.

^ Senile comments

We are supporting Ukraine because we are the leading superpower, we stand for democracy and it's the right thing to do. Trump will have plenty of opportunity again to find dirt on Biden - if he can and wants to - when he gets in office. Whether Hunter was pardoned is irrelevant. Though Trump tried to before, abused the power of his office and was impeached.

More akin to our support of Europe in WWI and WWII.

Keep shilling for Russia, Putin loves you

Ukraine is about money. So naive to think of America as the world police just doing the right thing. its about oil and gas, which Russia has in incredible abundance and keeping them from being able to compete with us as a rich superpower. Nothing wrong with that. America first, economic supremacy is why we all live so good. Just don’t kid yourself.

^Thank goodness that Trump is not a warhawk like Haley or Clinton.

^^The US needed to enter WW2 because FDR'S socialist policies failed. He let the Japs bomb Pearl Harbor because he needed the justification for Congress to declare war. He knew that was needed to end the Depression.

Ukraine is every bit as corrupt as Russia. It is an open proxy war and being horribly managed by the most inept and incompetent government since the Carter administration. Trump hope to negotiate peace for land. It's not the best outcome, but it's the best we can hope for without further loss of life or a wider conflict.

My arrows were for pt and testes.

Only a fucking ignorat tahd believes that the world thinks we stand for democracy, especially after the Democratic party's nominations for President the last 2 times, which was and is no different than how they do it in Iran. Young people like wildforcock would have to increase their intelligence 300% to even attain senile. Trump being impeached based on a dossier Hillary Clinton received from a double agent and fake, is further proof that to a democrat the paragon of democracy was Adolph Hitler, because he too was democratically elected and was supported by the palestinians. As the world crumbles due to impotence and failure of progressives, us old senile folks who were lucky enough to grow up in a better America, where the only rolse liberals played was a place to wipe your shoes, simply laugh. I had a great life as a kid, a great life as a teen, in my 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s and so far my 60s. I may hate Donald Trump but watching cucks like wild forcock cry as the urine dribbles down her leg, just might be worth it.

@skibum "What Biden did was criminal, not unethical and it was done to cover up the fact that we are supporting Ukraine so that the thug Biden family isn't exposed"

You got that right, man. Ukraine has the goods on Biden and his son, and they've used it to extort billions of US taxpayer dollars.

I would even go so far as to say Russia may have invaded Ukraine only to get their hands on the Biden evidence so they could manipulate him for their own purposes.

^^^ Senile and delusional as well

Also, the idea that the Ukraine war is about oil and gas doesn't quite add up either. Ukraine's reserves are a tiny fraction of what Russia already has. Seizing Ukrainian oil and gas assets will only have a marginal impact on Russia's ability to compete as a superpower. There is more a threat to Europe, and Europe knows a win for Putin will only embolden him to make another move West in the future. The US is there supporting not only Ukraine but our European allies.

^ I debunked your minor incursion talking point a long time ago, nobody believes it. It's pretty clear Putin didn't aim for a minor incursion and Biden didn't tolerate one either.

More willing to play ball now? LMAO Are you referring to Mexico's threat of retaliatory tariffs ? China banning export of key minerals to the US ? Yeah, Trump's tough guy act is going real well so far.

The flow of Russian gas sold to Europe goes through Ukraine.

^The simple fact is that Ukraine had an election. Obama the hypocrite interfered with the election; the Pro - Russian President "lost", so Russia tried to interfere with ours, allegedly. If it happened its 100$% on Obama, who also sat on his ass while Russia stole Crimea. Then we get Biden the thug who did something with Ukraine and his nitwit inbred son Hunter that forced Biden to side with Ukraine when Russia attacked them, due to risk of exposure of his crimes. Of course, Trump being in bed with Putin meant that Ukraine had 4 safe years where Russia took nothing. This just proves that Progressives are the sleaziest dumb fucks on earth. Anyone who thinks that seizing Crimea and attacking Ukraine wasn't 100% based on the fact that demented Putin thinks he is reassembling the U.S.S.R. and that he believed that the impotence of Obama the sissy and Biden the demented would permit him to do so is delusional. Why progressives argue their inane opinions when the facts are plain is just reason #239 why they may be American citizens but will never ever be Americans.

Now this senile old man is going to pack his skis because it is fucking snowing and Friday, I will do my zoom court appearance from the Peak Lodge at Killington. Even better than my zoom hearing from a picnic table at Saratoga last August.

Hey wildto suck cock China banned export of materials because impotent Biden decided to fuck things up even more by putting sanctions on China last weel. Are you really this stupid boy?

'Whether Hunter was pardoned is irrelevant.'

Yet here you are commenting multiple times in a thread about it wild4testes #dipshit!

'Young people like wildforcock would have to increase their intelligence 300% to even attain senile'

I'm thinking you're giving him way too much credit here, he's a total moron, and I doubt that he's younger than 45-50.

45-50? Jesus, I thought it was a teen girl fronting.

Lol, on second thought you might be right!

Senile old man misses the point again - there is scant evidence that the world is "showing more willingness to play ball now" with Trump as president-elect.... a truly laughable statement from PT.

Then we get Biden the thug who did something with Ukraine and his nitwit inbred son Hunter that forced Biden to side with Ukraine when Russia attacked them, due to risk of exposure of his crimes.

Seriously dude, can you provide even ONE credible link supporting this wildass theory that Zelensky was going to somehow "expose" Biden if the US didn't help Ukraine after Russia invaded?

There was a January 6 style coup funded by the CIA that overthrew the pro-Russia elected government in Ukraine and installed the current pro-US government.

I’m not against it. It was in the interests of US supremacy, but don’t kid yourselves.

What studme is referring to: en.wikipedia.org

Wildforcock is just plain fucking stupid. Obama the fucking clown caused this all. Simple plain facts remain a mystery to progressives who cannot even figure out that even if you cut off your cock, you're still not a woman. As Bill Burr said: Wait until a trans woman fights in the MMA. Everyone is still going to believe that it is nothing more than a dickless guy beating the shit out of a girl. Hey, he could take the cut off dick and whack her with it like it was a flashlight.

“In December 2013, Victoria Nuland, the US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, said in a speech to the US–Ukraine Foundation that the US had spent about $5 billion on democracy-building programs in Ukraine since 1991.[3] “

Generally, I was sure Biden was going to pardon Hunter (or Kamala would assuming she had won) and generally, I was ok with it except for 2 things:

1. don't go around and around fucking telling everyone that you're not going to pardon and act all high and fucking mighty, this destroys any credibility that the dems and their related shills have with taking the moral high road -- which also opens the door to more of these shenanigans
2. I allow for a high amount of corruption in politics, I like to think the US is better than most, but lately, who the fuck knows. Here, wasn't it enough just to pardon Hunter for the two felonies he pled to, does it have to be for the last fucking 10 years?

Good post Chief.

The pardon was to be expected. Hell, Ford gave Nixon a full and unconditional pardon.

I have a bigger issue with the lying press secretary Karine Jean Pierre. That mop top cunt stood at the podium for months and multiple times said a pardon would never happen.

KJP told more lies and spread more propaganda in her three years than Baghdad Bob had in his entire life, but I would not blame her for simply repeating what Biden had already said - that he would not interfere with the courts and pardon Hunter. He said it repeatedly, she told the press corps that he had said it repeatedly, and then he turned around and did what he said he would not. I hope she is furious with him, but she clearly lacks the character to resign in protest.

The democrat party has been the party of lies and gaslighting since Clinton first said "I did not have sex with ... Miss Lewinsky." The lies and disinformation have only grown in frequency and scope. The dereliction of duty by the free press and willful ignorance of tens of millions of voters are the beneath contempt in their willing acceptance of government corruption.

Chief I agree with your point #1. Prior to the pardon, Biden should have just said "I haven't made any decision on that yet" and left it at that. Easy peasy. He didn't and now it's a bad look.

Calling KJP a liar on this is misguided. She's just a mouthpiece for the White House, she wasn't able to say anything different than what Biden said himself.

As for lies..... there is only one undisputed King of Lies, and that is Donald Trump himself. Aided and abetted by the corrupt right wing media. The Washington Post did a tally of Trump's lies over his first term and the grand total was 30,573 false or misleading claims over four years. Unreal.

Between doing blow off strippers asses with Hunter Biden or with Pete Hegseth getting up on stage drunkenly at a Louisiana SC and getting through, these guys are some serious next level PL’s. I’d go with drinking with those dudes anytime.

@wld: " The Washington Post did a tally of Trump's lies over his first term and the grand total was 30,573 false or misleading claims over four years. Unreal."

The WaPo and NYT, to name 2, were seriously biased with who they sided with and how they "reported".

Did the WaPo do same for Biden - lies, misleading and false? "False and misleading" is open for interpretation; every time a politician opens their mouth... All politicians lie to some extent, some way more than others like Obama "you can keep your doctor and save $2,500 per year" or Schiff "I have video of Trump getting golden showers".

The Dems, DNC, Obama, Clinton, Hollywood, MSM did an excellent job with propaganda at fleecing Dem donors. The Dem Machine recklessly spent money like they do with Taxpayers' money. And they are $20M in debt after spending north of $1.5B.

You'll be fine, way much better, the next 4 years.

@Gammnu95: "KJP told more lies and spread more propaganda in her three years than Baghdad Bob had in his entire life, but I would not blame her for simply repeating what Biden had already said..."

She willingly did, and was the spokesperson for Biden and the WH. I view her as a willing cohort who could have quit if she didn't like what was being done. She'll get with CNN or one of their the other MSM outlets.

Wild

Yes Trump lies. But as they say two wrongs don’t make a right. The Biden WH and KJP could have set a new precedent and stop the lies….

But I guess Washington politics ain’t gonna change regardless of the political party

The election is over, you guys must have one massive inferiority complex, if you won isn't enough, seek counseling or something, maybe y'all need to get laid.

Over 130 posts in and the pearl clutching and teeth gnashing continues. Of course he pardoned his own son you dumb fucks. 😆

Now if he had an ounce of brains, he also would have pardoned Trump, which would have given him much more air cover. Kind of sending a "let's move on from all this ugliness" message which really wouldn't have cost anything since the federal cases against DJT are going away anyway. But that was just a bridge too far I guess.

^ that would have been smart but it didnt happen for 2 reasons

1. Biden is not smart and he’s surrounded by incompetents. His spokesman, for instance, is supposed to do more than allow you to check boxes (black* woman* lgbt*) and look at a binder while leaning on a podium. There supposed to help you approach and message issues so you don’t piss everyone off.
2. He’s weak and surrounded by people with Trump Derangement Syndrome who won’t “allow” him to do it. Fucking weak.

If Crypt Keeper had Pardoned Bag Man for just the tax and gun charges, it'd still be a tough pill but easier to swallow. He blanket-pardoned him back to 2014, 10 years, that covers his other problems that 99.9999% would hit then entire Crypt Keeper family even though charges haven't been brought to the DoJ/AG. And, now there is talk about rolling out more "woobie" blanket Pardons that go beyond the intent of POTUS Pardon Powers to al lkinds of people.

My hope is after 20-Jan-2025 this Pardon Powers gets to the SC for a ruling. I believe it would take an Amendment to clarify this going forward. Now that Americans believe a Line has been crossed that will make it easier for a POTUS to go even farther.

Let's see if he pardons his entire family, who hasn't been charged, including himself.

As far as a Pardon for the remaining Trump cases, they aren't federal so I think those would come from the GA and NY Govs. Good chance for GA, NY is a hot mess.

^ Pardon power isn't going anywhere.

There is no Constitutional ambiguity requiring a SC ruling. The Constitution gives the President's complete pardon power except in cases of impeachment.

Also, a Constitutional Amendment requires massive amounts of time, coordination and political capital to get passed. I doubt that enough people care enough about this issue to go through that process, even assuming that widespread agreement on the matter could be reached.

Finally, the NY and GA cases are done too. The Supremacy Clause ensures that they cannot pursue a sitting President and 4 years is a long time for these things to languish. I strongly suspect that these issues will quietly fade away on appeals if they are not simply dismissed altogether. The only thing left is for the lawyers to play the string out, lol.

Trump's lies are "they're eating the cats"

Uh, no. Try "The election was stolen".

"..I doubt that enough people care enough about this issue to go through that process, even assuming that widespread agreement on the matter could be reached."

It will depend on what Biden does in the coming weeks. Biden may just push the limit on Pardoning that is unacceptable to Americans like he did with the Borders and Economy. His family got away with millions of tax free $$$ while in gov't (senator and VP.) It really looks like Biden was compromised and bribed by foreign countries. The question remains will his activity be pursued as hard as was done to Trump. No one knows.

"Trump is a fascist."

Given this originated from two former senior advisors to Trump during his presidency, Mark Milley and John Kelly (both highly ranked and decorated retired generals), it is difficult to call this a lie. You're not doing too well on this.

Trump's lies about the 2020 election are on an entirely different level, and a key reason why so many in his party said he was unfit to serve again.

@Puddy: These Dems are going to have a lot of Karen Conferences. What they don't understand is DJT won, Electorals and Popular, the Dems are doing all they can is jack things up for DJT once sworn in, and they'll be just fine.

I also agree with you that the best we'll see happen with Biden, Inc will be shame and indignation forever. Yeah, they criminally got money and got away with it. GOP was asleep and stupid. 2 year investigation and nothing was produced. Hopefully, what they did will be turned over the the new AG in 2025 - I don't have a lot of faith in that though.

Whenever PT falls back on his "sugar tits" line, you know he's lost patience at continually having his weak arguments shot down.

Trump's lies are innocuous things like eating cats --> false Calling Trump a fascist is a lie --> false Implying I think Trump is a fascist --> false (never said that, though he has well-documented fascist tendencies) America wants MAGA --> LOL false

Just a slippery snake who keeps meandering with his endless spin and weak arguments.

No sour grapes here, just a much-needed reality check on the MAGA cheerleaders. Expect it to continue for the next 4 years !

How is DJT a Fascist? Do you even know what a Fascism is?

Here's an analogy to help PT. Say some guy thinks 400 is expensive for OTC, and you call it a lie. I can say it's an opinion based on his experience, and not a lie. But that doesn't mean I think 400 is expensive. Get it? Read it a few times if you're having trouble.

To understand what voters want, we have to look at the polls. People voted for lower food prices, among many other things. Since only a small fraction of the country even has a favorable view of MAGA (~ 24%), it's laughable bs to say America wants MAGA.

@mogul

Have a look at the following article, it's an excellent read.

As Election Nears, Kelly Warns Trump Would Rule Like a Dictator nytimes.com

^ That would be akin to saying, if Harris had won, that America voted for trans rights.

wld4testes is in serious denial. This is worse than TYT and John Leguizamo in 2016, because at least they could chant "Russia, Russia, Russia." They don't have that this time. American voted for more of 2016 - the last time the GOP ran the House, Senate, and Oval Office.

America, in a very decided and overwhelming vote, declared for the GOP. No federal abortion laws, dismantling and rooting out of the DEI, CRT and woke that have been eroding our national identity and unity, no more mutilation and experimentation on our children, secure borders and mass deportations, America First and MAGA. This is what the media and DNC told us a GOP win would mean, so that must mean that America voted for these things by giving the GOP the win. I believe the media was speaking truthfully about this and were right when they made these states. It is very obvious that they lied about so much more.

Look at it this way: whenever Kamala was asked about her unpopular promises - outlawing fossil fuels, disbanding ICE and CBP, ending private insurance and beginning medicare for all, releasing all non-violent offenders from prison and the rest of it- she would deny her endorsement of her own campaign promises by saying that she had not done it in the past four years. Apply the same rationale to Trump - look what he did in his first four years, and expect four more years of that. Now, what exactly did Trump do from 2106-2020 that was so bad? COVID/CCP, BLM, ANTIFA, and the DNC caused all of the problems those four years. What Trump and the GOP accomplished was historically beneficial for all Americans.

@WLD: so you can't even say why DJT is Fascist. Was he during his first 4 years? Does he meet this definition: Merriam Webster: "a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition." This defines the Democrat party to a tee.

@Gammanu95: "...Medicare for call", actually it will be Medicaid for all with more bureaucracy than we have ever seen to control cost and the population. We'll be a Neodymium Magnet for immigration.

Giving the gov't more money, power and control is like a failing company year over year over year over year that is kept funded. So many things are failures for gov't and yet more money is shoveled in.

The best example is DOE. In the mid-1970s, America was the #1 in K-12 public education. DOE was created in 1978. Today the budget is at $100B and we are now #32, plus we spend more ($15,000/student) than other countries. That is complete failure. I heard this analogy on All-In on the Friday Pod.

One BIG problem with people like WLD is they can't provide real information. Miley hated Trump, and of course he'd smack talk about Trump, and the NYT isn't exactly a right-leaning paper, it's better as bird cage liner.

===> "It will depend on what Biden does in the coming weeks. Biden may just push the limit on Pardoning that is unacceptable to Americans like he did with the Borders and Economy."

No it doesn't. You need a 2/3 of both chambers of Congress to pass and then 3/4 of all state legislatures to ratify a Constitutional amendment. Biden will likely issue a slew of last minute 11th hour pardons, like all his predecessors before him. Some may even be pre-emptive in nature. It won't matter.

This is simply not one of those issues that is such a slam dunk that a groundswell of bipartisan support will exist to even attempt that massive exercise. Sure there will be a few days of outrage and hemming and hawing, but then it will go away, as it should. We want our legislators legislating, not investigating.

^" [I (rickdugan)] want our legislators legislating, not investigating."

There, I fixed it for you.

^As would you if you had a lick of sense. Read everything I posted above about engaging in this tit for tat shit. What can be done to me, can be done to thee, when the shoe is on the other foot. The more we do it, the more we normalize it and the more it escalates.

Especially when it involves former Presidents. There is a reason that we have historically let them ride off into the night instead of indulging fantasies of political payback. At some point, it will inevitably become an issue that is destabilizing and may someday even interfere with the peaceful transfer of power, as it already does in countless other countries.

I suppose this is what happens when we raise a generation of adults in single Mother households. Especially the boys, who don't learn emotional control and instead grow up almost as emotionally sensitive as women. Too many people are hypersensitive and far too easily outraged, which IMO has led to the crazy polarization of this country.

A little corruption is far preferable than all of this melodramatic side show nonsense. Yes the Bidens were corrupt and yes so were the Clintons. Heck I bet that many if not most other Presidents benefitted as well. For that matter, how many Senators and Congressmen become wealthy while in office from speaking engagements and book deals for books that nobody ever reads?

Whether the Biden's corruption is a little more blatant than we're normally willing to tolerate is a reasonable question. But pursuing it is not worth the potential long-term fallout.

Heck how many

^ excellent response Rick, I agree with that 100%

@Rick: I never said an Amendment would be simple. If it were to happen, to help, it would be a case referred to the SC for their opinion. I'm not expecting the SC to over-turn anything, just a ruling that would need to be addressed by Congress. This surely would take years. Just like updating the 14thA for Birthright Citizenship with two illegals or a pregnant Chinese women who travel here legally for having birth in America. That is being exploited way beyond the original intent, and needs to be adjusted.

One big problem with Biden, Inc is the DoJ acted as a "wingman" (again) and protected the Bag Man by allowing statutes of limitation to expire and a sweet plea deal that was actually like what this Pardon did ; US banks flagged over 150 transactions when just a couple would have started an investigation.

I know Trump talks of moving forward, Biden's level of corruption and lawfare is really untenable.

Meanwhile Citizens are like Mongo in "Blazing Saddles: "Mongo just pawn in game of life."

Clearly, you do not need specific charges to level specific pardons, as Hunter was pardoned for 11 years including crimes he "may have" committed. Oh, but he is his father's son, so it's okay. It is impossible to find this kind of perpetual parental protection okay. It's bad parenting and it is bad for society.

The presidential pardon privilege needs checks and balances, and should be addressed by Conress. Unfortunately, it is like congressional term limits and curtailing their extensive post-service benefits. They are never, ever, going to vote in the best interests of the nation over their own self-interests.

@gammanu95: Exactly on all points. I've said this for years, same goes for a Flat Tax, it's a congressional "carrot/stick", never going to happen.

When parents indoctrinate a child into their crime world this goes way beyond bad parenting. The Biden parents are evil, and it was especially clear when they ignored Navy, their newest granddaughter - that was just wicked bad. Who cares if mom is a stripper as long as the child is raised in a loving family. Then Hunter dated and fucked his brother's (Beau) wife (Halle) after he died. There are strong indications he got her on The Pipe. This is just so gross, it would even make a redneck say "What the fuck?"

The best I can hope for is DOGE will shame and belittle the shit out of congress, and maybe some of these will get primaried and new ones in Congress - kind of like term limits but not. There is still a huge pile of greed even flies wouldn't touch in DC. They are the ones that created this spending problem yet they are the ones now saying, "Oh ya betcha, we agree spending needs to be cut." Yeah, where have you been the past 20 years. we'll see how messy this gets.

I'm looking forward to the DOGE Pod. It's is going to be a riot.

@mogul

I provided the NYT article which has all the background on how John Kelly came to his opinion that Trump met the definition of a fascist. Go ahead and bury your head in the sand, but Kelly was Trump's longest-serving chief of staff and had far more exposure to Trump's thinking than most people. The central and recurring theme in his interactions was that Trump placed loyalty to himself above loyalty to the Constitution. There's plenty of examples in the article.

Now one might say well this is all just theoretical, speculation, that Trump never ACTED like a fascist. Except, there's that pesky fact that Trump and his loyalists plotted to bypass the Constitution and overturn the 2020 election. If not for Mike Pence, things might have turned out very differently.

So there you have it..... a very legitimate argument why Trump meets the definition of a fascist. I personally would say Trump is part-fascist.

@WLD: "So there you have it..... a very legitimate argument why Trump meets the definition of a fascist. I personally would say Trump is part-fascist."

Well, guess we can move on. Flies wouldn't touch this analysis conclusion.

The definition of Fascism is exactly how the Dems governed with Obama (12 years) and Biden (4 years.) If you can't see it, not my problem.

Like I keep saying, you'll be fine.

Thinking men and women who are unafraid to acknowledge the truth and accept situations they disagree with would openly admit that Trump is not a fascist.

Liberals and useful idiots are happy to endlessly repeat "Trump is a fascist" and cannot be dissuaded with facts, logic, and debate. They worship the narrative, not the facts.

Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig.