I am a rookie compared to most of the guys here, and I recently got invited for "dinner" by 2 dancers. One makes no bones about otc/itc, while the other one seems to be more selective about such things.
How long before most strippers that do otc give an invite from your experiences.
It can happen right away but I would be wary that if a dancer wants to meet up with you right away, the chances are good that she is just looking to make money from the encounters with you even if she's not telling you that right away. If she doesn't want money but just a date, hey you just found the one in a million, that's like winning the lottery. You probably have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than you do of finding a dancer in a club who wants to hook up with you outside the club and not get money from you. However many people do get struck by lightning every year.
I had one dancer that expected to be paid by the hour but she never told me until I said goodbye. Made me mad. Then she got mad when I refused to pay her anything. Then she resorted to crying. I had plenty of cash and finally relented making her happy but then I was still upset at her especially when she had agreed to go out with me without telling me she wanted any money. If I had gotten something out of the encounter I probably wouldn't have been so upset at her but she deceived me pretty good. I was brand new to strip clubs at the time myself. I do wonder if vice girls ever work in the clubs. I do remember seeing one hot looking police girl driving a car one day.
2 months ago I thought that I was IN with an Atlanta stripper. It was not our first meeting. It was our third. It started with joking about meeting OTC and then I thought that she was serious. She gave me her real name and email address. She posted a review for the club that she works at and has met my buddy, trograngreg. We exchanged several emails but then she faded. It was probably just the booze at the club. The booze wore off and so did I. I emailed her 2 days ago. No reply yet.
I have taken several dancers to lunch/dinner but none of them expected to be paid for their time. I have taken several dancers to my hotel room and most of them expected to be paid for that.
I am not currently pursuing any dancers for either event but it could happen.
In my situation we do enjoy each other's company, but both of us realize that business is business, and while I may get a "sample" without coming out of the pocket(occasionally). I also understand that money at times will be appreciated(expected). She did insist on paying for her own dinner, but will accept money for other things.*
*This date has not taken place yet, but I have never met or heard of a woman that is willing to take money for "favors", but not for any other reason.
Example 2: She wanted me to get her a cheap item since she could notleave the club(less than one dollar), and insisted on paying for it.
I guess I am looking for some logic behind this.
The OTC who made no bones about meeting me outside the club insisted on paying for dinner, but I am sure she also will make some plan to get me to a hotel room and make it(the money) back. Now if this was stated directly I would have no issue, but since she is trying to ninja her way into my wallet we wont be meeting.
Example of her first swindling attempt: Agreed for a 2 for 1 deal for her dance. I wandered what was up, and she asked for a tip which was equal to the amount she paid for the 2nd dance, and just before the 2nd song ended tried to get me to buy another dance.
It's worth remembering that strippers are basically just party girls. They aren't "always on", and actually *like* hanging out, socializing, whatever. I've had quite a few "stripper friends" but I never really *think" of them as "stripper friends" - just girls I like to hang out with. Like any chick, sometimes it leads to bed, sometimes not. I actually just go with the flow, see where things lead.
I think part of the reason I've had *success* in getting to the "fuck buddy" stage is because I've never really *tried*. I'm reasonably generous in the club (I got over the "baller" thing long ago, now I just chill and buy dances and drinks within reason) and friendly and cool outside of it. It works.
Really, if you are going to clubs with the explicit intent of "hooking up", it's really a LOT more convenient (and cheaper) to hire escorts. Fees are known up-front, the girls usually have *way* more skills in bed than the typical stripper, and they are much less likely to be dramatic.
I actually just go to get dances. I guess I got lucky. Thanks for the responses people. I did the math a while ago, and realized escorts are cheaper, but I have never looked in that direction. Everything seems to business like.
Yes, there is a diference between "stripper friends" and an OTC opportunity. I have taken some stripper friends out for drinks and dinner-but just that. But when someone asks for an OTC, that strikes me as a busines come-on that will have a price. Like it's posted above, most are simply party girls and you can party with them if they like you and you're buying drinks and food. So make sure you understand the situation before you get surprised. If this happens too fast, you really don't know enough to make an informed decision. In this case, be careful or back off. Also---
Another bad sign you mentioned that always warns me off: the dancer asking for a tip. If someone earns a tip, I pay them acordingly before they even have to ask. If a dancer is brazen enough not to accept what I give her and then asks for a tip on top-- that hustle turns me off and I usually avoid her from then on. That's not the way for her to be friendly or to start business.
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I have taken several dancers to lunch/dinner but none of them expected to be paid for their time. I have taken several dancers to my hotel room and most of them expected to be paid for that.
I am not currently pursuing any dancers for either event but it could happen.
*This date has not taken place yet, but I have never met or heard of a woman that is willing to take money for "favors", but not for any other reason.
Example 2: She wanted me to get her a cheap item since she could notleave the club(less than one dollar), and insisted on paying for it.
I guess I am looking for some logic behind this.
The OTC who made no bones about meeting me outside the club insisted on paying for dinner, but I am sure she also will make some plan to get me to a hotel room and make it(the money) back. Now if this was stated directly I would have no issue, but since she is trying to ninja her way into my wallet we wont be meeting.
Example of her first swindling attempt: Agreed for a 2 for 1 deal for her dance. I wandered what was up, and she asked for a tip which was equal to the amount she paid for the 2nd dance, and just before the 2nd song ended tried to get me to buy another dance.
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I think part of the reason I've had *success* in getting to the "fuck buddy" stage is because I've never really *tried*. I'm reasonably generous in the club (I got over the "baller" thing long ago, now I just chill and buy dances and drinks within reason) and friendly and cool outside of it. It works.
Really, if you are going to clubs with the explicit intent of "hooking up", it's really a LOT more convenient (and cheaper) to hire escorts. Fees are known up-front, the girls usually have *way* more skills in bed than the typical stripper, and they are much less likely to be dramatic.
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Another bad sign you mentioned that always warns me off: the dancer asking for a tip. If someone earns a tip, I pay them acordingly before they even have to ask. If a dancer is brazen enough not to accept what I give her and then asks for a tip on top-- that hustle turns me off and I usually avoid her from then on. That's not the way for her to be friendly or to start business.