Honestly just bring back the mafia

Show us some data, not anecdotes

Fugeddaboutit

Put Sammy The Bull as Police Chief!

That shouldn't be too difficult to accomplish considering Arthur Avenue has an extremely high concentration of Italian restaurants and shops. Surely in the area there must have be some family connections to the old mafia. Perhaps they could bring back some street justice to help the old folks,

the mob....

sure they provide some positive value - entertainment wise. i get lots of hard laughs here and there whenever i would watch those franzese or sammy youtube podcasts. and of course those sopranos brief clips. the comments section below each of those clips are comedic gold!!!

yeah sure the old people would be protected by the mob, but only if they were considered "one of their own." if not considered as such then they would be fucked.

if you were a kid or young adult before say 1995 and was walking around in those mafia areas (e.g bath ave, 86th st as prime brooklyn examples) and one the mob members or young wannabes had you targeted for whatever stupid reason (the way you look, the way you spoke, etc) they would fuck you up. even if you lived there it would not matter.

but yeah definitely get you grandma outta da bronx-75% of that area is just pure shit. and if you live in the part of the 25% area you have to pass through a lot of shit areas just to get home. dude one of the bronx train stations is named gun hill road!!!

And as an alternate, once the mafia makes its presence known you could always buy "protection" for your grandma. They would make sure she's safe in the neighborhood.

I recall reading about "protection" being a popular business for the mafia. Small shop owners would pay a small amount each week to keep their store safe at night. Who knows when someone might throw a rock through the front window or worse. The mafia kept the small shops safe.

ahh the mob tax-something a business owner would have to pay in order to do business in the area. 3 guys come in and suggest you should make contributions to an organization of the mob's choosing. so basically just paying the same guys your $$$ to not throw rocks through the window or break in and bat everything inside to smithereens.

@rattdog
The Gun Hill Rd station is in an area that was considered one of the better parts of Da Bronx in my day.

Both violent crime and property crime are down significantly since the 90s when the mob was a thing. Why you'd want to return to the days of more frequent muggings, murders and carjackings, while adding a layer of extortion on top is beyond me.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/…

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if you say it was ok back in your day i'll take your word for it. but i passed by there by subway once to see an old fave at a bronx club. after that visit i told her from now on i'll meet you at any other club but not that one.

^ Cool bro, I haven’t been to Da Bronx, in years, last time was to close out my Mother in Laws, Arthur Ave apartment, and that was probably in 1995 or so.

Violent crimes and property crimes aren't down at all. We just fail to investigate, fail to arrest, fail to prosecute vigorously and progressive D.A.s just let people go. By the way Gun Hill Road was near where I lived as a little kid, and I had a 10-block play radius in the 1960s Bronx.

^ [citation needed]

Your link seems like a guess, so I will pass.

Yeah are the murders down from the 80's yeah sure (You can thank RUDY for that) but I'm just talking about the guinea neighborhoods. They were still safe, middle class life possible. Other neighborhoods, yeah the crackwars, I get that. But now a days wherever your at, it's a fucking free for all. Thunderdome, whatever deranged crackhead is walking the street, they are gonna do whatever they do. Nobody is gonna report shit, because nothing happens and nobody gets locked up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSi8VxeC…

par for the course

^ This is an anecdote, not evidence.

If you have any actual evidence to back up the idea that crime is under-reported right now, in NYC or elsewhere in the US, I'd love to see it.

Crime is not reported. Only reliable stat is murder. They say the same bullshit in LA and San Francisco. Is it really better there? Sometimes you have to trust your "lying" eyes.

BTW Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City, and others stopped reporting to the FBI their crime stats in recent years. We really just don't know. We don't have that data.

I'll tell you what, y'all come to Bronx. We'll go on tour. We'll see what kind of folks are hanging out in the streets and you tell me if you want your elderly folks walking around any of that bullshit. It's just super obvious. I'm saying our elected officials ain't doing shit. I want the mafia back, Tommy Bonnino and Vinny Bumbaz with the crew with all the bats, let them run the show. I'll go with all that, they are not putting up with this bullshit. It ain't perfect but I'll make that trade.

> Crime is not reported.

An opinion, which no one in this thread has provided evidence to support.

> Only reliable stat is murder.

Which is down, we agree.

I think NYC, LA, and San Fran are all great cities, and much safer now than they were 20 years ago. I've been to all 3 recently and they're all wonderful places to visit, except for the lack of good strip club options. I grew up in NYC and without a doubt every part of that city is much safer now than when I lived there.

I think honestly, you're just watching too much Fox New Muddy. Like maybe cut back just a tiny bit.

Bring back the mafia, or if that's not possible just vote out all the democrats. Will work just as well and no broken knee caps!

Safer now than 20 years ago? You can't be serious. Felonies have been dropped to Misdemeanors. many Misdemeanors aren't even reported as the process is just to complex the way the Fed has it set-up. Stealing less than $950 in CA is just like jaywalking. So many are just released in NYC. I use to go to NYC a lot from 2000-2008, and no concerns. Today, many areas look like the 3rd World.

Yes, these were once great cities, keyword=ONCE.

Yes, it really is up to voters, otherwise they get what they voted for, and I don't care. It's even bad here in Denver. Not "Fox News", I've seen it. Illegals wandering in traffic lanes at red lights begging for cash with toddlers in their arms.

Bring in 3rd World people, you become a 3rd world country.

@Mogul. Last month I was driving down Colorado Blvd to my hotel. At an intersection, I saw a mass group of 10 guys rush cars and clean their windows. While that is relatively mild, the size of the group seemed to strong arm the drivers for a "tip". Never seen that before in my life. Usually, it's a single person.

Biden, Obama, and the democrat party have brought in new mafias from South America. Any cop will tell you that MS-13 and these other gangs operate in the same fashion as the old sicilian mobs did, setting up protections rackets, money laundering, and so on. The old mob with their control of the vice rackets were also responsible for the spread of crack and heroin as fast ways for the weaker crews to make money. I know Muddy is being parodic, but the real solution would be to boot out the liberal, Soros DAs who prosecute victims and make up fake crimes against their political rivals.

I don't know much at all about crime having lived in the Bronx, South Florida and a northeast housing project. That knowledge is obviously lessened by appearing in criminal court pretty much daily from 1982 -2010 and sporadically since then.
The difference in crime now imo is simply the random viciousness of it all. In the 70s and 80s the statistic say life was more violent, and it was...but......the drug wars of the 80s killed people in the drug trade, the gang wars of the 70s killed people in criminal gangs. Crime today kills randomly, the school kid, the person sitting in the wrong place during a drive-by. When I went to high school in Florida there would be hundreds of guns on racks in the parking lot. Every pickup truck had a gunrack. No one got shot. School shootings didn't happen. Gangs killed those who wouldn't get with the neighborhood program, not a mother and kids for $30.00 like today.
I feel bad for anyone under 40, because their future is bleak and will be short.