Many escorts want so much personal screening information. In return, so many are 20 years older than their pictures, 40 pounds heavier than their pictures, or robs. yahoo.com
Personally, I think the Toronto scene (ie. Allure massage, Cafe Atlantis club, Discreet Dolls escorts) is way underrated.
Hi Ronjax - I think Canada's largely the same all over. I've visited Toronto more often and know better how to access the scene. Famous Montreal Clubs like Chez Paree are not the raucous scene they used to be.
TJ is very different...shaving cream shows with insertion, a sex hotel attached, and inexpensive prices.
Toronto has happy ending spas with beautiful women offering mutual groping but no FS; "spas" where the massage is solely an alibi for the FS expected, strip clubs with easy OTC and a bit of effort ITC, and a large number of escort agencies where you are paying for "companionship only" if you know what they mean. The women speak English. The variety of companion is greater than in TJ. They're almost all on social media so you can window shop before pursuing. It's more expensive than TJ, but cheaper than the U.S. plus the exchange rate makes it an even better deal. And, Toronto is a fun, safe city to explore while filling up again.
I concur with the love for TJ. It's an exceptional scene, with some issues. I can make a great weekend in Toronto and I enjoy it more than TJ (preference for blonde, English-speaking spinners). It's hard to get to Europe for the FKK scene, but everyone should try it at least once.
Look forward to reading your reports! (But, the big point of the original post was that I am against screening or deposits with U.S. escorts, and remind everyone to be on the alert, be ready to wade through the scams and be ready to walk away from the catfish.)
How is the spa scene in Montreal? I'm supposed to go there for work. Toronto was very good. It seems much harder to find info on Montreal.
SalaoLikeSantiago - tell me about spas in Toronto now offering full service. I used to go to Toronto a lot but haven’t a few years before COVID and I knew FS in spas was relatively new, but hadn’t experienced it myself.
Chiefwiggum - check out merb.cc for more info on spas in Montreal. They are very complex, not “as out in the open” as they are in Toronto. When in Montreal I just usually go with an escort as there are many reliable agencies there with reasonable rates.
Last time I was there I went to a spa downtown (meh experience) and booked an Indy escort I found on merb.cc that was excellent.
I concur SalaoLikeSantiago, the Toronto scene is indeed underrated. The P4P infrastructure is immense and diverse. Just using the three categories you mentioned - there are probably 10-20 good spas, and similar numbers of clubs and agencies, which if you add it all up probably comprise at least 50 spots and 500 workers available on any given day. All within a 30 minute drive of the GTA. Lots of indies there too, but like in the US they have gone the way of deposits and screening and high prices, which puts them in the "too much hassle" bucket.
I don't know the clubs well, the few I visited were OK but a visit to Atlantis a couple months ago was actually a bit of a disappointment. Conversely, I love the spas, and had great times again on my last visit, including Allure. There are numerous agencies offering both incall and outcall, many having 30 minute incall options at 160 CAN which is just $120 US ! They all have websites with photos and descriptions, and the local forum is a tremendous resource for reviews and Q&A. The local punters with free time and cash have almost endless options.
I am up in TO and Montreal at least once a year, sometimes twice. I'd go more often, but it would be at the expense of other favorite destinations, which isn't an option I'd consider right now.
@shailynn - the intel on spas in TO is kept under wraps when it comes to details like FS. The guys on the local board actually do an amazing job of being discrete and respecting the code, and it won't be obvious to most readers. It's also enforced by the mods. I was kind of amazed that it took me so long to clue into this, but some backchannel with a couple of local punters filled me in. From then on when I read the reviews with fresh eyes I could pick up on various clues and comments. I remember going to a couple of the top-rated high mileage spas on my next trip and bingo the mileage was great. The downside is the girls here often expect the upgrades and sometimes won't provide a good experience if you don't upgrade. So if you just want a lower-mileage session you go to the lower mileage places, such as Allure and Flirt which are two of the best.
For those who have been to both, how does the scene in Toronto compare to the scene in TJ?
I'm a newly frequent visitor to TJ, and definitely prefer a trip there to the escort scene, for all the reasons you mention, OP. I'm curious though how TJ stacks up against Toronto, or maybe Montreal?