Sex Worker
sinclair
Strip Club Nation
I was chatting with a very attractive 21 year old over drinks on a somewhat slow evening at the club. She kept referring to herself as a ‘sex worker’ in conversation, which I thought was weird since most dancers refer to themselves as ‘dancers’, ‘strippers’, or ‘entertainers’. I always envisioned a sex worker as more of street walker or drug addict who couldn’t make any money any other way, but selling sexual favors. This 21 year old said she was a ‘sex worker' because all of her income is derived from her sexuality: stripping, Onlyfans, and camming. I asked her what kind of money she was pulling, and below is what she told me. I assume these figures were after fees were taken out.
She referred to Onlyfans as passive income. Throw some pictures and videos up, and you get what you get with little effort. Onlyfans: $650 in a year.
She said camming on Chaturbate is highly variable and requires long hours. Chaturbate: $180 in one day.
By far stripping was her biggest money maker. Stripping: $400 to $2,000 per night shift.
I guess she is a sex worker by definition, but nothing she was doing actually involved the act of sex. When I mentioned things like extras, takeout, and being a sugar baby, she was repulsed by the idea that other girls her age were actually having sex to make money.
She referred to Onlyfans as passive income. Throw some pictures and videos up, and you get what you get with little effort. Onlyfans: $650 in a year.
She said camming on Chaturbate is highly variable and requires long hours. Chaturbate: $180 in one day.
By far stripping was her biggest money maker. Stripping: $400 to $2,000 per night shift.
I guess she is a sex worker by definition, but nothing she was doing actually involved the act of sex. When I mentioned things like extras, takeout, and being a sugar baby, she was repulsed by the idea that other girls her age were actually having sex to make money.
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Yeah strippers have identified with the label for several years now. Full service sex work (FSSW) is considered its own category
But even if he "boundary" is a real one, the need to separate herself from "those people" is hilarious and arbitrary. I'm not a sugar daddy but it sounds here like a lot of them don't think their money-for-sex trade isn't prostitution because he buys her dinner.
A good friend's _very_ promiscuous female friend once said "I'm not a slut because I never bang multiple guys in a single day." I was thinking "it's like being an alcoholic, if you have to arbitrarily rationalize why you aren't one, then you are."
Some of it has been driven by the (slowly) increasing acceptance / normalization of working in the sex industry and "sex work is work" movement. So, her definition is pretty widely accepted.
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I think of someone using sex worker freely and liberally (even if they don’t engage in physical contact) as a reflection of it being a bit more normalized, perhaps in a woke kind of way.
It's weird she considers having a OF worth it for that money. I'm guessing her patrons are guys she has met at the SC.
But could also be a way of "not having to live in the shadows" per se and not having to "hide" one's "career"?
I guess "sex worker" fits to a certain-degree even if she's not having sex - but one would think there could be a better-name for it o/w is a swimsuit-model or Victoria-Secret-model a "sex worker" bc she's using her sexuality?
[There's probably a fair number of SB/Seeking women who would fight that label, but that's another discussion.]
And though there might be a few gray areas, I don't think anyone considers mainstream modeling to be part of the sex industry.
And I guess I could be wrong, but I really struggle with there being a significant number of sex workers who consider their job "woke".
sex worker
noun
: a person whose work involves sex acts
especially : a person who engages in sexual intercourse in exchange for pay
but I think the youth use this term to describe any work that involves sexuality, which they define pretty loosely: showing tits online or at a coffee stand or on a stage is sw, even though there isn't any contact or sex per se. I think it's also a solidarity thing: all sw's are sw's together, regardless of the boundaries and rise up sisterhood yadda yadda.
I wonder if hot bar tenders and admins and saleswomen, who are definitely trading on their looks, should get added to the sw group? You're staring into the boobs the whole time, she knows it, you know she shows it, she knows you know she knows it, etc. Of course the sexuality is helping the sale of something else in these cases, whereas the bikini barista really isn't selling coffee. Or is she? Murky....
I would think if you call yourself a “sex worker” you’re touching some dick at some point during your work day/night - but what do I know.
I find it odd that someone that does well in the clubs can't figure out a way to get the cams going. Maybe she needs to try another website. Cuz good looking chicks on cam ain't gotta do much or hustle long hours for $180, but there is a bit of a learning curve sometimes to see what personally works and what doesn't.
From what I've seen most chicks who prefer stripping 1) don't mind being touched 2) maybe wanna be off the books but at 400-2000 a few times a week it is impossible to stay fully off the books. 3) maybe can't figure out a system on cam that works for them. 4) makes more sense to travel strip than travel cam unless leaving the country then that can change easily
Perhaps she is a wannadance girl who doesn't have the skill of finessing guys out their money, and it's therefore even harder to do it on cam. Even on cam (or overlaps even ESPECIALLY on cam), seduction and flirting are critical in getting a guy to part with his money.
Also, competition is much stronger on cams, whereas a club has only so many girls at a time...so if the guy/girl ratio is in her favor in club, she can still make money. On cams, guys will keep moving until they find what they want, and don't need settle.
Despite browsing through many camgirls, there are a few that I keep returning to whenever I'm going through my camgirl cycle.
The girls that finesse/hustle/try to keep regular hours/ build a clientele regular base or community (depending what site and hustle) tended to be the ones who made the most money. Also the chicks who did promo like onlyfans/other social media- that shit helps. I didn't do anything right as a camgirl and I still tended to avg out well enough per hour of my time. I didn't have to hustle the dudes they literally came to my chat to give me money lmfao.
Imagine you're Sinclair, chilling at a bar. You strike up conversation with an attractive woman nearby. While discussing occupations,
-she says she's a cam girl. I would think striptease and masturbation. Shutout some of those masturbatory performances can get pretty extreme. However, she's not out whoring around. I'd take her home.
-she says she's and adult performer or porn actress This encompasses the above cam girl work, on-camera intercourse, live nude dancing/ stripping, and semi-professional pornographic films including STD testing when not monogamous. I'd take her number, unless I really needed to get my dick wet that night.
- she says she's a sex worker. Her income is derived from sexual acts with paying clientele. Her job is to get ridden hard and put away wet. I might maybe consider it if she was hot enough and I was drunk enough, but if she brings it up in conversation she likely expects to get paid.
Back in the day I knew a very attractive dancer turned cammer who made over $100k in a year treating camming like a full time job. Pretty awesome deal for her, she never left her house, made over $100k and was also able to watch after her kids the entire time - she calmed at night when they were asleep or during the morning and afternoon when they were at school. M
BTW - she definitely would not call herself a sex worker!
Now if you are a zero dicks-a-day girl, I guess I can see looking down at dick riders in general.
One escort told me that reading from a bock and picking up marbles with her toes (while clothed) were things she was asked to do. Whether that was about sex or power or loneliness, who can be sure, or be sure the lines between those things are so clear-cut.
The other unifying factor is life-long impact. If you wanted to get into certain professions, teaching, law enforcement, etc., I'm not sure if it makes that much difference if you stripped/cammed/escorted or whatever.
I still think the line that defines sex work is physical contact with a customer's dick (or pussy, for all the gigolos out there). Anyone can label themselves whatever they want, but it doesn't make it true. Some OF thot can claim she's a sex worker but if all she does is sell farts in a can, does it really count?
http://titsandsass.com/man-calls-cops-on…
My favorite part:
“I know that strippers have something of a Regina George reputation among sex workers as many deny they are sex workers at all, considering themselves above the designation. Some strippers have been unkind trolls to Belle Knox and other porn performers on Twitter. Strippers are also arguably among the most likely type of sex worker to be denied the label by our clientele, mostly because strip club customers don’t want to have to identify as clients and they can deny that status more easily if we aren’t identifying as sex workers. But the expectation of explicitly sexual services is absolutely built into the idea of the VIP room, and it means that negotiating and/or denying various forms of sexual labor is part of the job.”
It's an interesting debate, but I'm definitely at the low-stakes periphery of that debate.
Forget strippers. Many bikini baristas identify themselves as sexworkers (at least on the gram. I follow many of them for, uh, research purposes). And since the real reason for their business is not coffee, it's the "erotic performance" that guys are there for, I think they're right, at least by zoomer/millennial definitions.
Yes, strippers are sexworkers, even strippers in an absolutely-no-touching bikini bar, by that definition. And I expect the above definition is what all the younger folks use.
Ask Linnaeus, it seems this is the human condition.