Dancers Enjoyment

We all have our different "fetishes"/things-that-get-us/going.

My personal view:

I'm cognizant/expect than on avg men and women see/feel things differently particularly w.r.t. sex - I doubt the avg dancer routinely gets turned-on like we custies do - dancers go to the club to make-a-living - custies go for enjoyment/satisfaction - so there are kinda opposing needs/desires w.r.t. why dancers and custies hit a club; not to mention than on avg men and women are just usually wired-differently in many ways particularly w.r.t. sex and more-so indiscriminant-sex - there's an old-saying I once heard ... "women use sex to get love; and men use love to get sex" - in the context of P4P one can substitute "love" for "money".

I doubt the avg dancer that is at the club several days per week for months/years on-end get as "excited" as we custies do - as the female-rapper sings in her rap-song "money makes me cum".

Thinking the avg dancer sees the interaction as we PLs do (for the pleasure of it) IMO is more wishful-thinking than reality. Are there exceptions? Of course - most things have exceptions.

At the end of the day, IMO the stripper/custy interaction is a business-one especially for the stripper - all I expect from a dancer is that she provides fair-service and I in-turn feel obliged to provide fair payment - if she "genuinely" gets into it, that's a nice plus; but it's not something I expect nor need to enjoy SCs for what they are.

Get real. You never know.

Well, not never. There is physical evidence.

Timing and connection counts for a lot. The experience that one guy receives is likely very different from another.

On the timing front if the girl is in a great mood or better yet, super horny, either due to attraction or they are simply raging with young female hormones, the sky’s the limit.

I guess personally I need level 3 to really enjoy it. I've had some well executed mechanical dances that were just mid.

Beyond that I guess I don't care. Tbh for me if it goes past level 4 it would bump against "we should be doing this for free" and actually ruin the fantasy. I want to be a favorite customer understanding I am a customer.

Big topic.

If you (like me) enjoy two-way contact, you're giving her a massage. Just not necessarily one she likes. If you pay attention, you can feel how much someones muscles relax when you massage them, and hear if their breathing gets deeper. You can vary your touch so it's more relaxing. But that's not really sexual.

I've heard it often that vaginal wetness is not a good measure of arousal. Some women get very wet even with little arousal. Maybe kinda like how, when you were in high school, you'd get a hard on when the bus driver revved the engine.

I'm most convinced when she stops breathing for a moment, and shudders. Can count on the fingers of one hand the dancers with whom that has happened. Probably just as believable they learned to fake convincingly.

Some dancers seem genuinely touched by it if you honestly get sweet on them (in a non-needy way).

Then there's always the fact that most dancers have SOs, even if they don't tell you. Liking you can have a big uncomfortable side, feel like cheating.

Imagine for a moment you're in a bizzaro world where WOMEN are paying YOU to let them suck your dick and have sex with them. You think you wouldn't enjoy it?

Yeah, I look for level five. I recently had a VIP where after considerable DATY she spasmed a couple times and was as wet as I've ever seen plus she had the musty smell of sex. Whether true or not she said she orgasmed twice. Last week I had my fave in VIP and again more DATY. She grabbed my head and kept making noises and saying don't stop. Am I 100% sure, no but if it was for my ego I'll take it.

"Probably just as believable they learned to fake convincingly."

If you're enjoying the experience then don't overthink it. If you have girls that you see over and over, if they ever genuinely get off with you you'll know when it happens or when they're just trying to make you cum faster.

Yeah, I hear ya. I try not to over think it. I had one other where I think it was real. She was standing straddling my face. Her kept saying oh fuck, her knees buckled and I had to catch her before she fell back. She was all sweaty and breathing hard. But, as you say it could be a convincing act, but I'll take it.

Personally I don't care whether she is enjoying it or just faking it. I'm not paying for her enjoyment so as long as she can at least be convincing when faking it that is just as good to me.

Don't get me wrong, I hope she enjoys it, but that isn't really what I am thinking about at the time. I'm sure you may get slightly better service or a cheaper price on occasion if she really enjoys it, but most of these ladies are focused on how much we are paying them more than how much they enjoy it.

Imagine a situation where a female is paying you to do something sexual and you find her physically unattractive. Imagine here that she may also have poor personal hygiene. Imagine that you were repeating that several times a day month after month. Imagine that some of those females were pressuring you to do something additional that might get you fired from your job or even possibly arrested. Would you really enjoy that for any reason other than the money? I don't think I would.

Many of the guys who are attractive to women can get female company without going to strip clubs and don't go to them. I see some young good-looking guys in strip clubs but many of them are just hanging out with friends. Probably the majority of the guys buying lap dances are not good looking. I put myself in that category.
I look good for my age but I'm 67 and I don't have any illusions the strippers are enjoying physical contact with me.

Had only two where I knew for sure.

The first squirted all over my hand in VIP.

The second was in an empty club that had some secluded bench seating behind little tables along the wall. Had a girl who wanted to sit on my hand. I worked it long and hard. My hand was aching. She asked me to change what I was doing a couple of times. I offered to let her dance and she said no fucking way was she getting up until she was done. After what seemed like an hour she clamped down hard on my two fingers. I asked her if she wanted more. The 2nd and 3rd time were quicker than the first.

No VIP so she could not return the favor. She refused any money and bought me two drinks.

An escort peed and tried to claim she was squirting. Too bad, she was a new found fav till that happened.

With a long time favorite, before she moved away, we decided on a day of hanging out, drinking and smoking weed. Went for 45 minute room. Great dance, but when I went to fiv, she was too sore. I backed off and we continued. Super hot dancer so next a little hand work on the special, non-vagina guaranteed spot which I found strip clubbing and which my wife also loves, and then daty. 2o minutes later "too sore" went to FS which I had never even remotely thought possible. Finding that spot 25 years ago changed lap dances for me and once I found out iyt transferred to real life it was game set match.

“Let your illusions last until they shatter.”
Jackson Brown
Only Child