OT: Pearl Harbour
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Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:29 AM
Some of you may know the last surviving veteran of the Pearl Harbour attack passed away recently. I’ve often thought I’d like to visit to pay my respects. Just wondering if any of you have been and if you can share your experience?
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Germany attacked the US because we were providing aid and arms to their opponents in the first World War.
England attacked the US because we were providing aid and arms to France in the Napoleonic Wars.
But as always we prevailed over the forces of tyranny.
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
FYI:
How U.S. Economic Warfare Provoked Japan’s Attack on Pearl Harbor
“On July 26, 1941, Roosevelt “froze Japanese assets in the United States, thus bringing commercial relations between the nations to an effective end. One week later Roosevelt embargoed the export of such grades of oil as still were in commercial flow to Japan”
“The question was how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.”
~ After the attack, to Pearl Harbor Stimson confessed Henry L. Stimson, Secretary of War
There is almost always an economic motive underlying most conflicts, even if the stated aim of the war is presented to the public as something more noble.”
They might be free, but seats on the shuttle are limited. It’s a very somber experience.
Hell, today you can’t even get a 17 year old kid to apply for a job a Subway
I specifically stated why Germany attacked us in the first World War.
“War is rich old men protecting their wealth and property by sending workin/middle class and working/lower class men off to die.”
~ George Denis Patrick Carlin
~ Born May 12, 1937 New York City, U.S.
~ Died June 22, 2008 Santa Monica, California, U.S.
My dad was one.
They truly saved the world.
If I recall you first watch a film and then board the boat to the Arizona. I found the Arizona quite moving particularly the plaque with names of all the soldiers that perished that day. At least at that time they still had trickles of oil floating to the surface, 46 years later.
It's on my bucket list to go again.
I wasn't old enough to fully grasp the significance of Pearl Harbor while I was there, but there is one memory from that trip that is etched into my mind. It was the first time I ever saw my grandpa cry as we were on the boat at the USS Arizona. The only other time I saw him cry again was the morning of September 11th as we were watching the news.
The fact of the matter is that the US military is the primary tool which the US utilizes to promote and protect the economic interests of the 1% abroad, by regime change, invasion, carpet bombing, taking land as territories, like Puerto Rico, Texas, California etc.
From the Boston Tea Party where disguised as American Indians, destroyed an entire shipment of tea sent by the East India Company to create a war, to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, a made up attack used as a pretext for escalation of U.S. involvement in Vietnam.
Nowadays Afghanistan, Irak, Ukraine 🇺🇦 and supposedly airstrikes in Syria some Americans keep manufacturing conflict and wars for the financial benefit of the 1% American oligarchs and their accomplices.
It is in the DNA of The United States of America to manufacture wars for profit.
All the wars created/waged by the leaders/monarchs of the British and American empires were and are to this day wars of aggression for profit and take place outside the USA, and of course the stated aim of the war is presented to the public as something “noble” like protecting freedom, yes the freedom to conquest, plunder and steal of course…
Even a Swedish child is aware of this UNDENIABLE REALITY:
“It is the sufferings of the many which pay for the luxuries of the few.”
~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg
~ Born: 3rd January 2003 Stockholm, Sweden
~ Occupation: Student, environmental activist
~ Awards:
~ Fritt Ord Award (2019)
~ Rachel Carson Prize (2019)
~ Ambassador of Conscience Award (2019)
~ Right Livelihood Award (2019)
~ International Children's Peace Prize (2019)
~ Time Person of the Year (2019)
~ Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity (2020)
When I visited the USS arizona it was crazy to still see oil coming up from the sunken ship and making small pools of that oil on top of the water. I also took a private flight around the island with our Cessna pilot whose grandfather was on the eastern side of the island the morning of the attack. Tye story goes he was collecting fish and looked up thinking it was a flight exercise. He didn’t know it was an attack until much later that day. My flight over the island ended taking the same path as the Japanese and we flew over the harbor looking down onto the sunken ship. Very cool to experience it from that angle.
The United States invaded/annexed as a “territory” the Hawaiian Islands and the Hawaiian Kingdom on July 7, 1898 and Hawaii has since been under prolonged occupation to the present,
Hawaii is and continues to be an occupied State, but its continuity as an independent State remains intact under international law.
This illegal occupation has had a profound impact on Hawaii’s population who have been the subject of denationalization, which is the obliteration of the national consciousness of the occupied State in the minds of its people.