PPP and other loan fraud

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rickmacrodong
Are they going to go after everyone who obtained fraudulent ppp loans or other pandemic related assistance?

Some people say there’s too many applicants and people to go after, some say the government will catch all the fraudsters but moves slowly and will take time.

Some people abused these programs like claiming their company had 10 employees when it actually had no employees. Exaggerating what was spent on payroll to try to qualify for more forgiveness.

I also heard there was some way the PUA funds were being scammed. I’m not sure how but I remember people were quitting their jobs since PUA was paying like $3600 a month for nothing. Basically the equivalent of $22.50 an hour in a 40 hour work week. Retail employees were quitting all over for the PUA.

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CJKent_band
2 years ago
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conan_mac_morna
2 years ago
Competently managed and with a bare minimum of due diligence, PPP could have been brilliant. But with bureaucracy on one side and grifters on the other, no such luck.
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Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
This is why the government needs to be significantly shrank – it’s very easy to give away other people’s $$$
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Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
I heard that there are some cities in CA that are still implementing a rent-moratorium (or at least until recently; 2+ years after the pandemic) – I heard of one case this guy was renting an upscale house in SoCal and had racked-up close to $100K in back-rent – there was nothing the landlord could do - I guess the local progressive government saw the renter “as the victim” vs the landlord getting shafted for almost 2-years of non-payment – the renter that refused to pay (and couldn’t get evicted) was constantly taking trips to Europe and other popular vacation-spots.
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CJKent_band
2 years ago
@Papi_Chulo

Did you heard about these:

“Over 25 PPP loans worth more than $3.65 million were given to businesses with addresses at Trump and Kushner real estate properties, paying rent to those owners. Fifteen of the businesses self-reported that they only kept one job, zero jobs or did not report a number at all.

The loans to businesses located at Trump and Kushner properties included a $2,164,543 loan to the Triomphe Restaurant Corp., at the Trump International Hotel & Tower in New York City. The company reported the money didn’t go to keeping any jobs. It later closed.

A company called LB City Inc, which is located at Kushner’s Bungalow Hotel in Long Branch, New Jersey, received a loan for $505,552.50 that it used to keep 155 jobs.

Two tenants at 725 5th Avenue, Trump Tower, received more than $100,000 and kept only three jobs.

Four tenants at the Kushner-owned 666 5th Avenue combined received more than $204,000, and retained only six jobs.”
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casino
2 years ago
It’s amazing that a thread about PPP scams can include a dig at democrats. The trump admin demanded all checks for PPP loans be removed before approving the program. The republican trump admin stole billions and handed them to wealthy business owners.
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rickmacrodong
2 years ago
I heard they are actually investigating fraud with the PUA and grant programs though?
PPP is a little different because the rules of the program allowed abuse.
Some people claimed to have employees, or exaggerated the number of employees.
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