I recently became a heavy clubber and have not regretted that decision at all. At 30 some may some I’m too young to take a lot of interest in going frequently but it is a great sport. Though you have to shell out money to get girls attention, OTC, or sugar date. To me it takes a lot less energy than involving myself in the current dating market and my budget and finances allow for me to enjoy it. Maybe this will wear off in a year or so but for now I’m loving the convenience of going some place that I know there will be beautiful women who will give me attention whether that physically or mentally for the right price.
I don't go there, paying for company. Women are picky when it comes to sex. Even if I was 30 years younger, ate right, worked out daily, I still don't think hot women would be dying to be my fuck buddy. But it's a lot more realistic to be plain good company. If someone finds that challenging, and pays people to put up with them, seems like they have problems that remain unsolved there. If, as roleplay, you want a hot stripper to pretend to find you interesting or impressive, that seems harmless. As long as you remember it's just roleplay.
I’m kinda in the same place. I just don’t have the patience to date atm. It’s just less stressful to give up some money to fuck a girl that is super hot that I probably couldn’t touch otherwise and keep it movin
Definitely not my only method of approaching women but in todays age most women only do online dating and if you approach them in public you’re a creep.
When someone in their twenties is trying to decide between strip clubs and dating, their financial situation is important. I went to a strip club one time in my twenties and the females there didn't look any better than someone I could date. Beside sex, I also just enjoyed the company of women. I could spend hours with a girlfriend. Paying a stripper for hours of her time would have been more expensive and I didn't have much money. It was different in my fifties. Strippers looked much better than anyone I could date at that age, and I had a lot of money coming in from my job. That was when I started my strip club hobby.
Tbh I was not clubbing much during those times when I was in the dating market. Honestly I was having too much fun partying with regular girls. Heavier clubbing was always a by-product of needing an outlet for my desire for variety which would not come back to bite me in the ass on the homefront. I know it is fucked up to admit that my clubbing dramatically increased when I was in committed relationships, but there it is.
I say all that to point out that club dancers are not a substitute for the real thing. It's like eating cotton candy. It's easy, sweet and fun, but provides no real sustenance whatsoever while spiking your blood sugar and rotting your teeth in the process. Sure it's cool to do it every so often, but if you try to use it as a food substitute for any length of time you'll find it woefully insufficient while the negative effects will pile up.
One of the potential long-term negative effects is the serious risk of permanently stunting your interpersonal skills with women IRL by not exercising them enough. Going to strip clubs just to get female attention is the easy way out.
You don't want to blink, find yourself at 40 and realize that your life choices have been made for you. Just a thought.
@OP, your desires will come and go, particularly if you only club at a small circle of clubs. And that's OK.
But don't give up on civvie dating. It builds other skills like the ability to socialize without a quid pro quo, meeting new friends, etc. It allows you to do social activities other than drink or fool around in the club. When I shifted too far from dating->clubbing, I started to see relationships as transactional, and that wasn't a good thing. Now, I see them as complementary to one another.
If it's because dating feels stale, expand your horizons. Not sure where you live, but in any major metro area there's a steady stream of new women on the apps. Lots of scammers there but with practice they aren't hard to weed out. It's a numbers game. If you're active and charming enough you can get new ass every few weeks (helps if you're less selective, LOL).
If dating costs as much as strip clubbing, choose less expensive dates. Recently, I realized that two nice dinners on a weekend (I love eating out) I was taking dates out to cost as much as a day at the club with extras.
@rickdugan isn’t crazy that you want more variety when you’re in a committed relationship. I thought it was just me and I was just being greedy some part of me believes it’s just our natural instincts as males.
Remember All activities, sexual or not, in our capitalist society have a cost in money, time and effort.
With respect to relationship with women; I would refer you to Demosthenes (384 – 12 October 322 BC)
Greek statesman and orator of ancient Athens.
1. We have courtesans for the sake of pleasure.
2. Concubines for the daily health of our bodies, and
3. Wives to bear us lawful offspring and be the faithful guardians of our homes
In this list is the Greek view of woman in the classic age.
And in all ages and times.
All men want that, but only some can afford it...
In today’s world Demosthenes would say:
1. We have high end escorts, centerfolds, actresses, models, Strippers (ITC OTC) etc that provide PSE/GFE for the sake of pleasure.
2. Mistresses/Sugar Babies/; etc, for the daily health of our bodies.
3. Trophy Girlfriends/Wives to bear us lawful offspring, and be the faithful guardians of our homes.
4. Realistic Sex Dolls/Gynoids/Fembot, and Internet Porn and Instagram/Onlyfans “Models”, for kicks-and-giggles”
Remember
“In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”
~ Cuban refugee Tony Montana (Al Pacino) in the movie Scarface.
If you have the money and can afford it, buy it and enjoy it.
Don't let anyone tell you that you are too young to go to stop clubs on a regular basis just because you are in your 30s. As long as you enjoy it and can afford it then club as often as you want. Just make sure you budget enough for your savings before budgeting for strip clubs. At that age it is easy to want to spend money on your immediate desires and forget things like maximizing your 401k. As long as you have the funds for both enjoy your life and have fun.
Civvy girlfriends and strip club visits serve different purposes. Sometimes we want/need "normal" companionship.....other times, we just want to see random women on a whim. Time and place for each, and they can co-exist.
I get the comfort of having easy access to female affection in the strip club scene.
I went on a binge starting in Jan22 thru aug22, sometimes going two or three times a week. Found I had a lot of disposable income and lots of free time, so I decided to use both to hump big butts to my heart's content.
Just don't make the mistake of becoming an aspie and being unable to interact with civvie women, or going deadass broke.
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As you mentioned, the excitement of strippers could wear off in a bit, and that’s fine. Enjoy these experiences while you can.
I say all that to point out that club dancers are not a substitute for the real thing. It's like eating cotton candy. It's easy, sweet and fun, but provides no real sustenance whatsoever while spiking your blood sugar and rotting your teeth in the process. Sure it's cool to do it every so often, but if you try to use it as a food substitute for any length of time you'll find it woefully insufficient while the negative effects will pile up.
One of the potential long-term negative effects is the serious risk of permanently stunting your interpersonal skills with women IRL by not exercising them enough. Going to strip clubs just to get female attention is the easy way out.
You don't want to blink, find yourself at 40 and realize that your life choices have been made for you. Just a thought.
But don't give up on civvie dating. It builds other skills like the ability to socialize without a quid pro quo, meeting new friends, etc. It allows you to do social activities other than drink or fool around in the club. When I shifted too far from dating->clubbing, I started to see relationships as transactional, and that wasn't a good thing. Now, I see them as complementary to one another.
If it's because dating feels stale, expand your horizons. Not sure where you live, but in any major metro area there's a steady stream of new women on the apps. Lots of scammers there but with practice they aren't hard to weed out. It's a numbers game. If you're active and charming enough you can get new ass every few weeks (helps if you're less selective, LOL).
If dating costs as much as strip clubbing, choose less expensive dates. Recently, I realized that two nice dinners on a weekend (I love eating out) I was taking dates out to cost as much as a day at the club with extras.
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
Remember All activities, sexual or not, in our capitalist society have a cost in money, time and effort.
With respect to relationship with women; I would refer you to Demosthenes (384 – 12 October 322 BC)
Greek statesman and orator of ancient Athens.
1. We have courtesans for the sake of pleasure.
2. Concubines for the daily health of our bodies, and
3. Wives to bear us lawful offspring and be the faithful guardians of our homes
In this list is the Greek view of woman in the classic age.
And in all ages and times.
All men want that, but only some can afford it...
In today’s world Demosthenes would say:
1. We have high end escorts, centerfolds, actresses, models, Strippers (ITC OTC) etc that provide PSE/GFE for the sake of pleasure.
2. Mistresses/Sugar Babies/; etc, for the daily health of our bodies.
3. Trophy Girlfriends/Wives to bear us lawful offspring, and be the faithful guardians of our homes.
4. Realistic Sex Dolls/Gynoids/Fembot, and Internet Porn and Instagram/Onlyfans “Models”, for kicks-and-giggles”
Remember
“In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”
~ Cuban refugee Tony Montana (Al Pacino) in the movie Scarface.
If you have the money and can afford it, buy it and enjoy it.
I went on a binge starting in Jan22 thru aug22, sometimes going two or three times a week. Found I had a lot of disposable income and lots of free time, so I decided to use both to hump big butts to my heart's content.
Just don't make the mistake of becoming an aspie and being unable to interact with civvie women, or going deadass broke.