Do we really care what they (strippers) think about us?
Bobbyl, made an excellent point in another thread. Essentially if you have a low opinion of strippers then does it really matter what they think of you. I hope I paraphrase that accurately enough.
I guess ***if I had a low opinion*** of them and they weren't in a position of power where they could injure me or take money by force, then NO, I wouldn't care about their opinion.
I don't have a low opinion of strippers. I've met too many that I liked. BTW, they didn't need to like me in return! :) I have a low opinion of judges, but that really isn't right. I'm sure they are some excellent judges out there, but *normally* power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And, I think also that power will normally corrupt even good people.
I guess ***if I had a low opinion*** of them and they weren't in a position of power where they could injure me or take money by force, then NO, I wouldn't care about their opinion.
I don't have a low opinion of strippers. I've met too many that I liked. BTW, they didn't need to like me in return! :) I have a low opinion of judges, but that really isn't right. I'm sure they are some excellent judges out there, but *normally* power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And, I think also that power will normally corrupt even good people.
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It has nothing to do with having a low opinion of strippers. For the ones I choose to spend time with, I happen to have a high opinion of their ability to turn me on. However, I don't know them well enough to have a general opinion about them, nor do they know me well, so what each of us thinks is pretty insignificant.
There only a few people in my life whose opinion of me that matters to me, and strippers are just not them. LOL!
"a lot of guys seem to be walking around who pride themselves on being "nice" and "agreeable" to women vs just being themselves, being honest, and not worrying that every woman likes them."
Ironically, actually not giving a shi.t what strippers do or do not think about us, probably even works better for those that actually do give a shi..t - if that makes any sense at all
Actually that does make a lot of sense. :) Not a universal rule by any means, but it seems caring (or being nice) is perceived as a negative by a good many dancers. And, if you think about it from their perspective it might make a lot more sense.
I'm just a "wind bag" when writing. :) Well, ok I'm occasionally a wind bag with the spoken word.
The woman that I was thinking of isn't even a stripper. I detest her and her father, who was an elected official. Perhaps detest isn't a strong enough word. Loathe; despise. IOWs, were not buddies. :) It comes from a dispute surrounding the word "voluntary." In her opinion and her father's opinion a person can never complain of being forced as long as your actions are "voluntary." For example, if you put a knife to a woman's throat and threaten to carve her up or kill her unless she provides you with sex, the woman can't complain because her submission was "voluntary." As the woman explained if someone put a knife to her throat or started carving her up she is still free to say NO!; thus, if she decides sex is better than being carved up or being killed she has made her bed and she NO right to complain that she didn't have a choice. The sickness extends to the idea of "personal responsibility." The woman has to take responsibility for her actions (submitting to the rape or not to) just as the rapist has to take responsibility for his actions.
How did we get into a discussion of "voluntary." There was a talk show many years ago where they had a tax protester and an IRS spokesman. Surprisingly, both stated that filing an income tax return was "voluntary." Unfortunately, the IRS idea of "voluntary" was even if there was a death penalty or 30 years in prison as a penalty for failure or refusal to file an income tax return it was still "voluntary." My thought at the time was what a sicko and that probably isn't even the government's position. Tell these tax protesters in simple English that filing an income tax is required by law and that it isn't "voluntary" in any true sense of the word. There are real penalties! Don't confuse the damn "simpletons." Yes, a handful of people could probably stand up against rape and choose to be carved up or killed, but that hardly means submitting to the rape was "voluntary." In same manner, I'm sure there are people who don't mind or can stand up to whatever punishments the government dishes out, but that hardly makes compliance "voluntary." Those who believe it is and that you have NO right to complain or object, I have an extreme contempt for. And, who knows there may be a lot more people who believe in that than not.
One thing I prefer about strip clubs is that, BECAUSE it doesn't matter if they like me or not, I can just up and walk out any time I want. No goodbyes, no tipping or hand-shaking or saying thank you. Christmas party? You have to be friendly. Strip club? Fuck that friendly shit.
No, really -- we're all doing "what we don't REALLY want to do, except for the money" and "selling out" and "ya gotta make ends meet."