Title couldn’t say it all.
Like Slavery, Apartheid and Racism, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human beings.
~ Nelson Mandela ~ Born 18 July 1918 Mvezo, Cape Province, Union of South Africa (now Eastern Cape) ~ Died5 December 2013 Johannesburg, Gauteng, Republic of South Africa
So I'm going to disagree. If you call it resources instead of money you can see poor flora and fauna everywhere. That plant underneath the giant tree that can't get the sunlight because the tree blocks them. That same tree has a more complex root system that accesses the water first. Anytime you see hyenas fighting lions for food. You see animals plants fighting each other for resources and inevitably you have animals that die of starvation.
Ideally we should have the intelligence to overcome poverty, but greed runs rampant all over the world.
There's only one thing you can do for the poor, don't be one of them. Poverty is man-made, it's made by the people who are poor. When liberals tell people there isn't anything they can do about their plight, they are dooming them to never do anything about it.
To get out of poverty, one must (1) want to get out of poverty (2) believe they can get out of poverty (3) make a plan to get out of poverty and implement it.
It's been done many times.
USA has more fucking fat “poor people” in expensive clothes with every other luxury known to man. Something’s upside down.
Poverty is the natural condition of mankind, look at most of our history.
In modern upper-income civilization, we have a reasonable shot of living into our ninth decade and not dying of poverty, preventable infectious disease, or violence. Our ancestors would have sucked a mile of dicks for that.
Capitalism and Enlightenment Democracy have lifted more people out of poverty than any other notions in history.
Definitely man made. And now these are all the product of capitalism.
SJG
I tend to agree with Ulrick. I would love to believe that Mandela was right and poverty can be overcome, but in the history of mankind it never has, and it never will. Someone will always be richer, and someone will always be poorer, and the prevailing standards of living will determine the poverty line. The concept of some sort of utopian society where there is no poverty exists only in fairytales and Marxist theory.
Capitalism unchecked means always less and less employment, and of a lower and lower quality.
And the Horatio Alger Myth, pulling yourself up by your own boot straps, is what keeps people subservient.
SJG
Capitalism is the most unnatural system ever. It destroys the planet people other species. A 9 to 5 is basically wage slavery. Credit is debt slavery.
Capitalism is entirely a creation of government, laws, and courts.
Capitalism would not last 10 minutes without these.
And it is in the service of Capitalism that Gavin Newsom want to use courts and the psychiatric system to brand, intern, and medicate the homeless.
SJG
A free market in China has, since Deng Xiaopeng in the 1970s, brought 94% of rural China above the poverty line. See South Korea, Vietnam, Singapore. All capitalism success stories.
You can debate how much of a social safety net backstops it, but even Scandinavia prides itself on free markets.
Without capitalism, you wouldn't have an internet to bitch about it.
And the Internet has destroyed far more jobs than it could ever create. I love it, but we need a different social and economic system.
China was emerging from feudalism.
SJG
===> "Like Slavery, Apartheid and Racism, poverty is not natural. It is man-made"
Baloney. Throughout nature there are winners and losers. Animals that find mates and those that don't. Those that win the battle for food and those that don't. Those that hold territory and those that are chased off or killed.
In its purest form, capitalism is probably the closest you'll find to the most natural economic system. But the version we practice is hardly pure. We provide so much social netting in the forms of food, housing, healthcare and other assistance that we have created a dependency class. If only the losing animals you'd find in nature were as fat as those who reside forever on our welfare rolls. 😉
Rick. You're a lying piece of shit. Your political views are as delusional as you bragging that hookers take your money coz you're special.
Likening human society to the "natural world" is what is known as social Darwinism, and it was the primary basis of the Nazi Party.
And this is why I say that today, minority groups that are facing systemic denigration need to adopt the tactics of the Irish Republican Army and start making some corpses.
SJG
^ Whatever, Walter Mitty. The guy who can't post on Sundays and holidays isn't making corpses any time soon.
The denigrated groups need to organize and act
Some people like status quo cuz it's easy. Others like it because they're too lazy to try change. Some are scared of what that future may look like. Only those that are willing to embrace change and evolution are those who succeed the most. That means constantly adopting and analyzing new ideas and philosophies.
One thing for sure is that Socialism brought us Adolph Hitler and democratic Socialists.
Hitler was far right like the politics you support. I'm sure you love Pinochet Somoza Quisling Franco...
This thread is full of endless platitudes and hyperbole, lol. Along of course with Icee accusing me of lying without actually indicating what I was lying about.
There is no such thing as a fair system out there. Capitalism is the closest thing to it as it abhors government corruption and control, leaving people largely able to maximize their individual potentials. There is a reason why, in so many Socialist/Communist countries, the richest people are those who control the levers of government power.
But Ok, don't let me interrupt the ridiculous platitudes about "change" and "evolution" and "systematic denigration" and the other goofy victim mentality nonsense that some on here want to blame for their own failure to thrive in a system that embraces and rewards talent, vision and hard work.
@rickdugan
“There is no such thing as a fair system out there.
Capitalism is not even the closest thing to it despite its ridiculous claims that it abhors government corruption and control, leaving people largely unaable to maximize their individual potentials.
There is a reason why, in so many Capitals/Socialist/Communist/etc-its countries, the richest people are those who control the levers of government power.”
TIFFY you are welcome.
“It is the sufferings of the many which pay for the luxuries of the few.”
~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg ~ Born: 3rd January 2003 Stockholm, Sweden ~ Occupation: Student, environmental activist
~ Awards: ~ Fritt Ord Award (2019) ~ Rachel Carson Prize (2019) ~ Ambassador of Conscience Award (2019) ~ Right Livelihood Award (2019) ~ International Children's Peace Prize (2019) ~ Time Person of the Year (2019) ~ Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity (2020)
^ Look CJ, name another system where I could pull myself out of poverty in my young 20s simply by working hard and getting an in demand college degree, without needing to pass a state sponsored exam or othrwise .get approval to attend a state run university.
Name another system where I could start a business in my 30s from my bedroom with no licensing requirements, no bribes to government officials and otherwise completely unencumbered from competing with the largest firms in my industry.
Capitalism is the ultimate freedom for those who are capable and the ultimate enemy for those who are weak and stupid. But hey, that's OK, the world needs ditch diggers too.
@rickdugan
“There is no such thing as a fair system out there.” that is true.
The so-called founding fathers were paranoid hypocrites and ungrateful malcontents men that shifted authority and lawmaking, from the king to private potentates and their own elected/selected “accountable” democratic officials (puppets)
Feudalism was a social system that classified people based on their birth, wealth, and ancestry...
The feudal system is live and well in England with the King and Queen.
In America today, this type of social class system still exists, as a Corporate Feudal system with a Corporate elite, Bankers, Politicians, Celebrities, etc.
We still have the nobility, who are now the CEOs of corporations who lobby “our” politicians to work for them, not the people.
The peasants work under the rule of the King and lords/Corporations and they get paid a small amount in return. ' The peasants in England never owned their own property. Just like peasants in America who have to take a mortgage to have a place to live or have to rent from a LANDLORD.
In Capitalist America the majority of people belong to the lowest caste, laborers bound under the feudal/capitalist system to work on his lord's/patron’s estate/industry...
Only they are made to believe that they can one day become the billionaires a one in a billion chance if they play by the rules.
Behind every fortune there is a crime, the numbers don’t lie, things don’t add up, if they were to play by the rules.
That believe, the American Dream (a fairy tale about Cinderellas) is what allows this system to continue.
The American dream is 100% true, for those willing to work hard and make an effort, which is why lefties think it doesn't exist. China is what the Democrats want for us, with the terrible consequences of left-wing government. Hitler, Mao, Stalin - all socialists.
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@skibum609
Thee fanaticism and bigotry of our own day in America are essentially political and religious.
“Men will continue to commit atrocities,” Voltaire wrote, “as long as they continue to believe absurdities.”
Could any sentence be more pertinent to what is happening in America today and through its history of fairytales, disillusions and denial?
Progressives have been mentally ill children since Day one. The fact that surprised you means you're a fuckwit. No one on earth is more bigoted than the progressive.
Hey cj, you left your fatherland to come here and all you do is complain about the USA while Germany isn't much different and all you do is praise it. You're not going to change anything here so why are you here? Your fatherland beckons, why aren't you there?
I know, it's because you're a cocksucking troll that just wants to agitate people with your shit stirring.
Speaking of cocksucking, how's your dick pic collection going? I suppose you're dissatisfied with it, that would explain your homo ass trolling a hetro strip club website.
@skibum609
You wrote and I quote:
“Progressives have been mentally ill children since Day one.”
Who are those “progressives”, you mentioned, among the so-called founding fathers “from day one”?
If you are so stupid as to assume that I meant the glorious founding fathers who gave us a wonderful country, cunts like you have fucked up, then you are even stupider and a bigger piece of shit than Icey. You are a cum stain on a dirty mattress. I am quoting your dad.
'You are a cum stain on a dirty mattress. I am quoting your dad.'
A fitting quote of the day!
@skibum609
You and everyone know that the undeniable truth is that this country was founded by those you call, and I quote “the glorious founding fathers who gave us a wonderful country”, who where nothing but British paranoid hypocrites and ungrateful malcontents slave owners, killers of natives, women and children..
What was their cherished Declaration of Independence but empty political posturing?
The separation from Great Britain was done to justify the genocide committed against Native Americans and preserve slavery of African Americans.
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
-P.J O'Rourke
The undeniable fact is that American Capitalism was built on the genocide of the natives and the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor people, of any color, here and abroad."
“It is the sufferings of the many which pay for the luxuries of the few.”
~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg ~ Born: 3rd January 2003 Stockholm, Sweden ~ Occupation: Student, environmental activist
Awards: ~ Fritt Ord Award (2019) ~ Rachel Carson Prize (2019) ~ Ambassador of Conscience Award (2019) ~ Right Livelihood Award (2019) ~ International Children's Peace Prize (2019) ~ Time Person of the Year (2019) ~ Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity (2020)
CJ - I already think you are literally the single biggest douche bag on earth, but to base your idiocy on that stupid bitch Hannah Jones' 1619 (pablum for failures) fantasy takes the cake. The native Americans who sadly had never faced an enemy they couldn't handle were killed by the English. It wasn't genocide, but if lying makes you feel better, go right ahead. The idea that the natives living here lived in some idyllic paradise is false and ridiculous. To the left, those who fail, those who lose, those who do not contribute, are always innocent, perfect victims of others. Kind of funny we broke away from Britain in 1176 to preserve slavery and yet not only was Britain actively involved in the slave trade, until July 3-5, 1863, they were on the verge of entering the war on the side of the Confederacy to preserve slavery. Dual losses at Gettysburg and Vicksburg at that time ended the burgeoning partnership. The fact that ignorant, affirmative action fraud won an award for that shit just goes to show how corrupt the NYT and left media have become. So fuck off loser.
@skibum609
gen·o·cide noun
Leaders of the U.S. government openly claimed in the 1860’s that the skin of Indians could be peeled off to make tall boots,that Indians must be annihilated or driven to places that no one would go, that Indians had to be wiped out swiftly, and that only dead Indians are good Indians.
American soldiers saw the slaughter of Indians as natural, even an honor, and would not rest until they were all killed.
Similar hate rhetoric and atrocities abound, and are well documented in many Native American extermination monographs.
“Many people, especially ignorant people (skibum609), want to punish you for speaking the truth, for being correct, for being you.
Never apologize for being correct, or for being years ahead of your time.
If you're right and you know it, speak your mind.
Speak your mind. Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the undeniable truth.”
He was an anti semite and a fucking commie cocksucker, now burning in hell.