Who out there is fucking the game up
Muddy
USA
"Fuck?" "That's $1,000"
"Blowjob?" "Yeah I could $400, best I could do"
Have people lost DEY DAMN MINDS?!?!? They are saying it because they must be getting it from somebody. Keep it together, breath and stop blinking at these prices, shit.
We need to get back to the $100 scale, get off this $1,000 scale. Maybe do $40 for some suckie suckie or go all in, 100%, perfect lets do $100 for some fuckie fuckie. It all lines up just right. If you do a great job, hey maybe we venture "off the scale, into uncharted waters, a new frontier" and I go $110. That works for the working man. It ain't working right now.
Look in everything else I'm a big time capitalist, I'm all about that life, no doubt but when it comes to strip clubs, I make Bernie Sanders look like Milton Friedman. I'm very Stalinisque, Leninish, Trotskie-like. Fuck this economy, bring it down, 1929, 1987, 2008, need all that in one to bring this shit down, to normal costs again. Yeah it might hit me too, but I'm prepared to live like a crackhead on skid row to make to financials work for me. It's ok.
Let's get back to paying these strippers a "living wage" and not a "lets blow the entire paycheck TO-NIGHT!!!" wage. We need less of that. I am this close š( to getting me on of them new high tech sex dolls and calling it day. I'm done, fuck this. Fuck it all. You know what actually I can't fuck any of it, because even it wants 800 bucks.
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LOL. You may be spending too much time on sites like USASG. Just sayin.
Now sure, those numbers are high, but part of that is a function of geography I suspect. Fun has never been cheap in NYC unless you're a fan of AMPs, which by all reports are plentiful there.
I donāt think itās going away anytime soon.
The FED has to raise interest rates and slow down the economy to make it stop. That is not politically expedient during an election year. Biden does not want to have a weak economy for the mid-term elections. So very little is going to be done until next year. And then it will take a year for it to take effect. We've got at least 2 more years, maybe more of this. And it's not Putin's fault.
Best head I've ever gotten is civvie, in part because I don't do BB anything in the club. Disease free and proud.
You do realize that many/most of the guys on here are "business owning trash"?
As a percentage of my income, the cost of pussy In clubs has been pretty consistent over the years. There have been some fluctuations, both up and down, but itās pretty much kept pace relative to the rest of the economy.
I'd also tend to spend a couple hours at the bar, so I'd be buying her drinks (which she got some commission for, I'm not sure how much) plus while she was sitting with me I would throw her 5 or 10 bucks every once in a while. So during my visit the girl could easily get about 200 from me.
More recently I've seen that overall amount go up by maybe 40-50%. Probably a combination of general inflation, an attempt to make up for lost business in the past, drink prices higher, whatever.
But if I ever hear 300 or more just for the basics, plus dance price, plus tips for extras... then I know I'm in the wrong fucking place. If they can pull in that kind of money with enough regularity to walk away from my business, good for them, but I'll go somewhere else.
I have a regular massage girl I visit with, and those prices haven't changed at all. 80 for the room plus 200 for the girl. I get 45 minutes of GFE in a completely private room, then a shower table clean-up. Still the best value around.
Itās important to understand that dancers are quoting an initial price similar to the MSRP of a car. Itās rare anyone walks into an auto dealership and pays full sticker price. A little negotiation can drop the dance price significantly. But, itās important to not insult the dancer who might have her mouth around your cock!
Itās as simple as -
PL: Hi there. You are looking great tonight. Are you available for dances?
Stripper: Hi baby. Thank you. Iād love to dance for you.
PL: Thatās great. Do you offer any special services in the back room?
Stripper: Oh yes! Iād love to suck your cock. Itās $500 for that. You will love it baby!
PL: I donāt want to insult you, but $500 is a bit too high for me. If the price was lower, I would love to get some dances!
Stripper: I can do $XXX and I will still blow your mind!
If the price isnāt a lot lower than $499 - after that simple chat - then sheās not interested in your money - or sheās already made her cash for the night (and the rent isnāt coming due tomorrow).
Exactly MissChloe. You tell 'em. Some guys just don't seem to get that they are patronizing strip clubs not brothels. Frankly it's very disturbing and you're reminder was a breath of fresh air.
I think i may have fallen for some strippers
They bend the rules, take pasties off, let me feel the pussy
But one doesnt want fingers in pussy due to bacteria concerns...
I want to meet otc
These complaints are pointless in a free market that everyone benefits from. Maybe you think communism is the better way?
It's funny to me how so many on here pretend to be rich. Act like businesses have a right to charge as much as they want. Hate on the poor. Then go bat shit crazy when strip clubs raise prices or they can't low ball a hooker š¤”
FRMOS's, not buying dances.
SJG
Lowballing hoes while pretending to be so pro business is clown shit
BTW rip off hoes? You have me confused with someone else.
SJG
BLM _IS_ a financial scam. A cursory google search reveals that.
But you go lalalalala I can't hear you when evidence proves you wrong. So you won't see the wave of indictments and untraceable funds.
https://www.charitywatch.org/charity-donā¦
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/01/ā¦
https://www.yahoo.com/video/blm-officialā¦
https://www.wbur.org/news/2022/03/29/monā¦
Anyways
As a trick you show a hoe her worth by paying her. Trying to rip her off won't help you.
The next movement needs to be more radical.
SJG
You think calling BLM something that which is not changes its nature. Those fraud charges stand on their own.
People charge as high as they can, that's how America works. If that ever changes, America will become a place where you worry more about not getting your dick cut off than getting it sucked.
Even if she averages 20 BJs a week, at $40 that would be $40K a year gross. Not totally terrible money, but not good either. To deal with guys who never wash their dick, grab your head and try to gag you against your will, etc. And to deal with anyone who knows how you make a living treating you like a dog.
Math Muddy. Try it sometime.
SJG
I agree - this is a free market and the services available are largely market based. But, if a dancer offers an extra for double the market price, I will ask why she is offering such a high price. Iām not intending to insult her, but rather understand her pricing rationale.
If a dancer has no gag reflex and she can swallow a 2 foot kielbasa - thatās great - but Iām not hung like a horse - so I donāt need the full depth of her services. So, why pay the upcharge?
Many sex workers have to numb up with booze or something else to be able to do BJs/FS. If you feel like that's not your problem, all I can say is, better be very sure you don't have to answer in the next life for what you did in this one.
Um because she can!
And you work in banking so you should understand ridiculous fees and shit not being worth it.
The game isnāt fucked up because unlike banking there is way more options and donāt need to invest ya money in SWāers to get on in life
SJG
Pattie Boyd
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=10564
SJG
Your last sentence is what keeps me from negotiating most of the time. I've done it, but it often results in less than stellar service. These days, my "negotiation" largely consists of "No thank you, that's too rich for me" or some similar. Then I leave it alone. If she makes an acceptable counter offer, I'll consider it. If not, I'll leave it lie.
Virtually every time <b><em>I</em></b> have countered, I've been disappointed. So I haven't done it in years.
Now closer to home I would frequent some clubs with some of the best dancers and they'd sit to get and know me first... I had no problem splurging on some drinks and dances so they could pay the rent and then some...But with these girls when it came time for ITC or OTC, most were willing to go for 200-300 for FS because I'm not ugly or a slob, I work out regularly, and I treat them with respect and kindness.
If she goes the extra mile I'm going to throw down a nice tip too.
So sorry if I fuck shit up, but I don't play and if there is consensus, I'm gonna get what I want and make someone very happy.
The government flooded the economy with money and people are spending it. We may not like it, but a few club hounds on a couple of Internet discussion boards certainly aren't going to change it. And as Blah and Bharlem rightly said, their costs are going up too.
But it's a struggle for me to agree that a guy in SF paying $2.5K for sexy fun time is making my life more expensive.
How much would you charge another man to cum in your ass or mouth? How much do you think you'd deserve? Should the guy wait til you're desperate to get a good dead?
SJG
When you donāt feel like doing something in business, a good strategy is to offer it for a premium price. So if the person asking for it says yes, itās a win, and if the person asking for it says no, itās a win.
We are strippers. We are not blow jobbers.
Select the one you want and with generosity and charm get her to soften up and get a front rooom makeout session going. Then backroom FS and then out the door with her to continue on a mattress somewhere.
Remember, select the one you want.
SJG
Yay Skittles! Concur on bj price, at least in Calif extras club. No idea on FS, I'm not an ITC FS guy.
SJG
I wanted to ask you a bit more regarding that topic of boyfriend/husband pimps. Where can we discuss that
If a guy isnt an addict why would he pimp his girl out. Simply money needs?
Is there a certain look of guy who does this
Cuz ive seen a normal looking guy who has a stripper gf the thing is idk if he knows what she does in dances etc or if he thinks sheās a server or something
But looking at him he looks average , and is tatted up. Type of guy youād think could be a pimp but not to the point hed pimp his own girl out idk
Husband pimps are more rare but it tends to be about drugs and desperation.
Most pimps like that are really just hoe hustlers. The relationships never last unless he gets her pregnant to manipulate her more.
Traditional pimping is pretty rare now. Where the girl actually chooses up. But it happens. If a hoe has feelings she'll ask you to pimp her.
Or turning a girl out isn't like in the movies. When you know she's been around build her up for it. Ask her if she's ever thought of trapping. Don't push it. But if they try it. It's never about them liking sex or men or anything. They get hooked on the fast money. Especially when they never experienced it before. But fast money is a habit just as destructive as any drug over the long term.
There could be possibly many guys who if they have a hot wife or girlfriend would have her escort? Cuz the money is too easy isnt it. Especially if theyre middle class. A reasonably attractive escort could likely easily make 50k+ a year with minimal time investment too
It happens in the swingers scene sometimes but is looked down upon.
It's fast money but not easy money
Could you post it here
I said the black guy with the jewelry and tattoos who got the stripper you fuck pregnant is probably her pimp. Coz sometimes the stereotype is true.
Like the stereotype of the boyfriend who plays video games all day. He's most likely an addict
I told you I havent fucked that stripper
Theres limits on dms
I read your last message but i cant read the most recent one
Iāll have to wait maybe 12 hours before i can read it
The thing is if hes her pimp why would he get her pregnant
Additionally why would they have social media stuff saying they love each other
And how come he seems too soft to be a pimp
$100 is cheap as fuck. And you usually get what you pay for in looks abd thrills. Maybe try not being so God damn cheap.
A baby helps strengthen bonds and a woman is always bound to the father of her baby. Makes it much harder to leave.
She probably does love him. That's why she does it for him. He loves what she does for him.
A lot of boyfriend pimps go for a fuck boy or pretty boy style. It's the ones like that that are yhe most dangerous. The ones who will pull a gun out the quickest coz its all they can do
And i gues it goes both ways, I donāt know if she wanted to get pregnant or he did and who wants the other more and who is trying to force the other to stick around more
Do you have any idea why they havenāt gotten married even with the baby... does she not want marriage or does he not want it
Isnt there something going on if someoneās had a kid but still not married makes it seem one of them is hesitant to commit?
They post their love on social media at least on her profile
What you mean he loves what she does. He loves that she whores for him?
What does a fuck boy or pretty boy style look like
Also random but which pornstars are your top in terms of looks
Fuckboys and pretty boys just follow every trend they can. That varies by where you're at.
Elisa Ibarra and Anisa Kate are really hot to me. I don't keep track of pornstar names though