Who out there is fucking the game up

I don’t begrudge strippers getting it if people will pay but there aren’t a lot of people who could drop 1000 with any regularity. If they do though more power to them assuming they can afford it.

Ah, ye ol' theory that if mongers just banded together somehow they could control pussy price inflation. 👍

LOL. You may be spending too much time on sites like USASG. Just sayin.

Now sure, those numbers are high, but part of that is a function of geography I suspect. Fun has never been cheap in NYC unless you're a fan of AMPs, which by all reports are plentiful there.

I do think some guys cave in too easily when girls throw out a number. But I don't think I want to touch a girl that is willing to do FS for $100 or less.

OP's being an idiot... again ;)

This is what they mean when they say inflation tends to correct itself. Eventually people will get tired of paying higher prices and stop buying and when demand falls so will prices. I believe it is transitory, just not sure how long it will take for things to get back to normal. I will say that this time next year there will be a different story to tell.

This seems to be a trend with EVERYTHING not just strip clubbing prices.

I don’t think it’s going away anytime soon.

Sorry Meat. That's not how it works. Once inflation starts, it's like a big boulder. It keeps going until something stops is momentum. Ten years ago, businesses wanted to raise prices. But the public would punish them if they tried. Now, people expect higher prices. So businesses will keep raising them. Their costs will go up, so they will want to raise them more. In my business, I have pushed thru some large price increases recently. Was real nervous when we did it. Business didn't slow at all. So we put in another round of increases. People are paying it.

The FED has to raise interest rates and slow down the economy to make it stop. That is not politically expedient during an election year. Biden does not want to have a weak economy for the mid-term elections. So very little is going to be done until next year. And then it will take a year for it to take effect. We've got at least 2 more years, maybe more of this. And it's not Putin's fault.

Let them charge as much as they want. I'd rather see a hoe make it than some business owning trash

In many clubs part of the problem is many inexperienced custies that often don't have a clue and just ask for a price and pay what the dancer says - a lot of them also go to the club once in a blue moon and may not mind overpaying for a once in a while splurge - if one is a regular-clubber then the high-prices become much-more burdensome.

Leonard recently posted that $400 head was the best head he ever had, but not worth $400. $1,000 head would not only need to be the best head, but also include stellar FS and a commemorative T-shirt from a 10/10.

$400 head better be a 30 minute bareback blowie, from a woman who sucks dick like she invented it. Of course with CIM and swallow.

Best head I've ever gotten is civvie, in part because I don't do BB anything in the club. Disease free and proud.

Let them charge as much as they want. I'd rather see a hoe make it than some business owning trash

You do realize that many/most of the guys on here are "business owning trash"?

Remember, the strippers have to pay the House tip out the bar, security, and doorman. Plus the general house fee to just work at the club. This can be part of the reason prices are higher. You do get what you pay for.... I will do deals on slow nights. But remember you can always discount for a customer but you can't raise prices if you start really low.. a fair price bj $80-$120 intercourse w/condom $150-$180 and intercourse w/o condom $200

Papi’s got it right: at least in SoCal, it’s too many fools with too much money, & too PC to negotiate. “Best ___ ever” is a tell for “I know I spent WAY too much but I’ll rationalize it this way….” Think of it like buying a used car, or any haggling; find the point of a willing seller to your buyer, & remember cash is king. That said, pent-up pandemic demand & the f’n cost of living is reality, & rates are up. For a girl meeting my standards (such as they are), these days I jump at Skittles’ price points these days & feel no shame/regret.

If you can’t afford the game, stay home and jack off. Or go find some cracked out street hooker to give you a gummy.

As a percentage of my income, the cost of pussy In clubs has been pretty consistent over the years. There have been some fluctuations, both up and down, but it’s pretty much kept pace relative to the rest of the economy.

I think some girls raise their prices higher for men they really don't want to have anything to do with. That way the man is the one saying no.

Pre-pandemic my usual spot (which never reopened) was about 80 for FS plus the cost of dances. Dances were timed at 5 minutes, and were 20, of which the girl got 1/2. I liked to spend a decent amount of time and would often buy 5 dances up front. So that's 50+80 for the girl, and sometimes I might throw an extra 20 or 30 when we got back to the bar, if it was exceptionally good or she did some extra freaky stuff for me.

I'd also tend to spend a couple hours at the bar, so I'd be buying her drinks (which she got some commission for, I'm not sure how much) plus while she was sitting with me I would throw her 5 or 10 bucks every once in a while. So during my visit the girl could easily get about 200 from me.

More recently I've seen that overall amount go up by maybe 40-50%. Probably a combination of general inflation, an attempt to make up for lost business in the past, drink prices higher, whatever.

But if I ever hear 300 or more just for the basics, plus dance price, plus tips for extras... then I know I'm in the wrong fucking place. If they can pull in that kind of money with enough regularity to walk away from my business, good for them, but I'll go somewhere else.

I have a regular massage girl I visit with, and those prices haven't changed at all. 80 for the room plus 200 for the girl. I get 45 minutes of GFE in a completely private room, then a shower table clean-up. Still the best value around.

Don't go to a club looking for full service then? Try skip the games or Craigslist

Prices are up 40% at my regular club. Luckily for me I can afford it, and I am winding down my career anyway. As climate change kills skiing and inflation kills strip clubbing, before I aged out of both, I can always golf and gamble.

I think this might be one of those odd things that many American men fall victim to - as we are very oriented to seeing a price and accepting it (or walking away from it). Dancers may know this, so a high price will get a yes or no - and nothing more.

It’s important to understand that dancers are quoting an initial price similar to the MSRP of a car. It’s rare anyone walks into an auto dealership and pays full sticker price. A little negotiation can drop the dance price significantly. But, it’s important to not insult the dancer who might have her mouth around your cock!

It’s as simple as -

PL: Hi there. You are looking great tonight. Are you available for dances? Stripper: Hi baby. Thank you. I’d love to dance for you. PL: That’s great. Do you offer any special services in the back room? Stripper: Oh yes! I’d love to suck your cock. It’s $500 for that. You will love it baby! PL: I don’t want to insult you, but $500 is a bit too high for me. If the price was lower, I would love to get some dances! Stripper: I can do $XXX and I will still blow your mind!

If the price isn’t a lot lower than $499 - after that simple chat - then she’s not interested in your money - or she’s already made her cash for the night (and the rent isn’t coming due tomorrow).

===> "Don't go to a club looking for full service then? Try skip the games or Craigslist"

Exactly MissChloe. You tell 'em. Some guys just don't seem to get that they are patronizing strip clubs not brothels. Frankly it's very disturbing and you're reminder was a breath of fresh air.

What is reasonable for otc I think i may have fallen for some strippers They bend the rules, take pasties off, let me feel the pussy But one doesnt want fingers in pussy due to bacteria concerns... I want to meet otc

Maybe the issue of wealth inequality has finally struck deep in the heart of tuscl? Seattle is full of people making 500k+/yr: Software fucks. Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon, Google, etc. To them, $400 vs $1k on a luxury is a non-issue. So, they drop whatever silly amount at the club, and the middle class / blue collar guys are seeing the same dancer the next night, but her expectations of the world are different now. She went and bought a Gucci purse today and likes being “baller”. She’s convinced she’s worth it, because for one night: she was. Inflation is at times incremental, and at times spurts. Could this leap really be down to just inflation? Maybe the way to look at it is inflation in a segment of the market.

I would love to come to your place of business or business and complain that what you charge doesn’t make sense because your shit ain’t worth it.

These complaints are pointless in a free market that everyone benefits from. Maybe you think communism is the better way?

A Gucci purse is more than 1k and needs a matching wallet. Youre looking at areas $2600.

It's funny to me how so many on here pretend to be rich. Act like businesses have a right to charge as much as they want. Hate on the poor. Then go bat shit crazy when strip clubs raise prices or they can't low ball a hooker 🤡

^ Um, Icee, aren't you the guy who bragged about intentionally undercharging items at the grocery store self-checkout? Lulz.

It can get like that when there are not FRMOSs. You can get girls charging lots of money for doing very little.

FRMOS's, not buying dances.

SJG

I don't mind fucking businesses over.

Lowballing hoes while pretending to be so pro business is clown shit

^ Grocery stores operate on very thin margins.

They're greedy fuck them.

You'll defend corporations but rip off hoes

^ God forbid someone create useful jobs for people, rather than hook girls on drugs.

BTW rip off hoes? You have me confused with someone else.

You support corporate price gouging and businesses stealing ppp money but call blm a financial scam 🤡

Don't ever treat them as prostitutes. No reason for that.

SJG

Again, you're putting words in my mouth.

BLM IS a financial scam. A cursory google search reveals that. But you go lalalalala I can't hear you when evidence proves you wrong. So you won't see the wave of indictments and untraceable funds.

charitywatch.org nymag.com yahoo.com wbur.org

Like I said youreba clown defending theft and fraud by businesses but defaming a civil rights group for allegedly the same thing

^ False and false. And you wouldn't know a civil rights group if it grew on the tip of your dick.

Says the apologist for yhe azov battalion who calls civil rights groups criminals

Anyways

As a trick you show a hoe her worth by paying her. Trying to rip her off won't help you.

BLM has done an incredible amount of good in this decade.

The next movement needs to be more radical.

SJG

^ Right, so if one offers sex for $80, I should offer $300. Actually when I still went to that place, which has been a few years now, they asked for $60 and I always tipped at least $20 if not $40. You can call me a lot of things but not a low baller.

You think calling BLM something that which is not changes its nature. Those fraud charges stand on their own.

Go suck a dick for $40 Muddy, then get back with us if you still feel the same.

People charge as high as they can, that's how America works. If that ever changes, America will become a place where you worry more about not getting your dick cut off than getting it sucked.

Even if she averages 20 BJs a week, at $40 that would be $40K a year gross. Not totally terrible money, but not good either. To deal with guys who never wash their dick, grab your head and try to gag you against your will, etc. And to deal with anyone who knows how you make a living treating you like a dog.

Math Muddy. Try it sometime.

BLM brought critical attention to police violence excesses.

SJG

BHarlem - I work in a commercial bank - and folks tell me our lending rates are too high almost daily.

I agree - this is a free market and the services available are largely market based. But, if a dancer offers an extra for double the market price, I will ask why she is offering such a high price. I’m not intending to insult her, but rather understand her pricing rationale.

If a dancer has no gag reflex and she can swallow a 2 foot kielbasa - that’s great - but I’m not hung like a horse - so I don’t need the full depth of her services. So, why pay the upcharge?

A good reference point with this is jobs that involve changing bedpans and/or adult diapers. Seems like it's easier for most people to get use to doing these jobs than it is to get use to doing BJs and FS, or even boob sucking.

Many sex workers have to numb up with booze or something else to be able to do BJs/FS. If you feel like that's not your problem, all I can say is, better be very sure you don't have to answer in the next life for what you did in this one.

If a hoe is charging a very low price it's out if desperation. And hiring her amounts to sexual exploitation.

@cashman

Um because she can!

And you work in banking so you should understand ridiculous fees and shit not being worth it.

The game isn’t fucked up because unlike banking there is way more options and don’t need to invest ya money in SW’ers to get on in life

Oh and the price of gas is up 😤

As far as strip clubs, guys just got to stop buying dances and start treating the women as you would treat any other woman, and that means From Room Make Out Sessions

SJG

Pattie Boyd tuscl.net

Blame Putin lmfao

Blame Pelosi and Trump for the Weimar Fiscal Policies.

SJG

@Cashman1234: "It’s important to understand that dancers are quoting an initial price similar to the MSRP of a car. It’s rare anyone walks into an auto dealership and pays full sticker price. A little negotiation can drop the dance price significantly. But, it’s important to not insult the dancer who might have her mouth around your cock!"

Your last sentence is what keeps me from negotiating most of the time. I've done it, but it often results in less than stellar service. These days, my "negotiation" largely consists of "No thank you, that's too rich for me" or some similar. Then I leave it alone. If she makes an acceptable counter offer, I'll consider it. If not, I'll leave it lie.

Virtually every time I have countered, I've been disappointed. So I haven't done it in years.

Huh idk why u complaining. Guys will pay $1000 and beg to eat pussy so be happy an american hooker will suck ur dick for only $400 during this time where everything is skyrocketing like damn.

I'm one you should hate on. I literally paid $800 to a girl in cali at the strip club because I was in a hurry. I had walked into a place and nothing was interesting me at all. I was ready to roll out when a 9 hispanic athletic girl with a pretty face, C cup breasts, perky ass and tits walks up and says she is having the worst day because no one has been in. I told her, well I'm here now baby. She said, my name is destiny and its my destiny that you walked in. Next thing I say lets go and we walk back to a private room. She proceeds to fuck me covered for 30 minutes while we talk and joke...What a ride. Anyway, I paid for the fact that I am not from there and the money showed I was serious. I didn't even bother to negotiate.

Now closer to home I would frequent some clubs with some of the best dancers and they'd sit to get and know me first... I had no problem splurging on some drinks and dances so they could pay the rent and then some...But with these girls when it came time for ITC or OTC, most were willing to go for 200-300 for FS because I'm not ugly or a slob, I work out regularly, and I treat them with respect and kindness. If she goes the extra mile I'm going to throw down a nice tip too.
So sorry if I fuck shit up, but I don't play and if there is consensus, I'm gonna get what I want and make someone very happy.

As Milton Friedman said, “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output.”

The government flooded the economy with money and people are spending it. We may not like it, but a few club hounds on a couple of Internet discussion boards certainly aren't going to change it. And as Blah and Bharlem rightly said, their costs are going up too.

There have always been guys paying too much for no good reason (and not just for sex). And those guys will always exist.

But it's a struggle for me to agree that a guy in SF paying $2.5K for sexy fun time is making my life more expensive.

It's very misogynistic to argue about women like they're commodities. Only worth what you're willing to pay they to be your cum dump.

How much would you charge another man to cum in your ass or mouth? How much do you think you'd deserve? Should the guy wait til you're desperate to get a good dead?

I have never talked about women or P4P services as having a particular market value or fair value.

SJG

For once I agree with Icy.

When you don’t feel like doing something in business, a good strategy is to offer it for a premium price. So if the person asking for it says yes, it’s a win, and if the person asking for it says no, it’s a win.

We are strippers. We are not blow jobbers.

I don't solicit women for prostitution, but I don't buy dances either. Buying Dances is a Chump's Game.

Select the one you want and with generosity and charm get her to soften up and get a front rooom makeout session going. Then backroom FS and then out the door with her to continue on a mattress somewhere.

Remember, select the one you want.

SJG

->@Skittles: "a fair price bj $80-$120 intercourse w/condom $150-$180 and intercourse w/o condom $200"

Yay Skittles! Concur on bj price, at least in Calif extras club. No idea on FS, I'm not an ITC FS guy.

Have to soften them up and get them off script. Start by picking the one you like. And it really has to be face to face.

SJG

@Icey ive been trying to reach you but cant dm you I wanted to ask you a bit more regarding that topic of boyfriend/husband pimps. Where can we discuss that If a guy isnt an addict why would he pimp his girl out. Simply money needs? Is there a certain look of guy who does this Cuz ive seen a normal looking guy who has a stripper gf the thing is idk if he knows what she does in dances etc or if he thinks she’s a server or something But looking at him he looks average , and is tatted up. Type of guy you’d think could be a pimp but not to the point hed pimp his own girl out idk

@rickdugan according to the science of economics, it's more complicated than that: en.wikipedia.org . A bigger money doesn't automatically raise prices, it also requires a high velocity of money. That is why increasing the money supply can be a tool in preventing a deflationary spiral. Note that this article sites a work by Friedman as a source.

Sirachabob dm me. The boyfriend pimp is someone who wants to be a pimp and finds hoes to pimp. Rarely do they turn them out. A lot of times it is because of drugs. Having a criminal record that makes it hard to get a job.

Husband pimps are more rare but it tends to be about drugs and desperation.

Most pimps like that are really just hoe hustlers. The relationships never last unless he gets her pregnant to manipulate her more.

Traditional pimping is pretty rare now. Where the girl actually chooses up. But it happens. If a hoe has feelings she'll ask you to pimp her.

Or turning a girl out isn't like in the movies. When you know she's been around build her up for it. Ask her if she's ever thought of trapping. Don't push it. But if they try it. It's never about them liking sex or men or anything. They get hooked on the fast money. Especially when they never experienced it before. But fast money is a habit just as destructive as any drug over the long term.

What do you mean by turning them out

There could be possibly many guys who if they have a hot wife or girlfriend would have her escort? Cuz the money is too easy isnt it. Especially if theyre middle class. A reasonably attractive escort could likely easily make 50k+ a year with minimal time investment too

Get her to prostitute herself.

It happens in the swingers scene sometimes but is looked down upon.

It's fast money but not easy money

Do gangsta looking guys still have wives or girlfriends that they escort out?

Icee i cant read your dm Could you post it here

Sirachabob. You can and you're just race baiting and trolling every thread.

I said the black guy with the jewelry and tattoos who got the stripper you fuck pregnant is probably her pimp. Coz sometimes the stereotype is true.

Like the stereotype of the boyfriend who plays video games all day. He's most likely an addict

^ Rapist

Im not race baiting man comon

I told you I havent fucked that stripper

Theres limits on dms I read your last message but i cant read the most recent one I’ll have to wait maybe 12 hours before i can read it

The thing is if hes her pimp why would he get her pregnant Additionally why would they have social media stuff saying they love each other And how come he seems too soft to be a pimp

Ever hear of inflation? Much like most of you, we also have bills to pay. Don't like someone's price? Nobody fucking cares. Just move along. Don't like that someone paid someone a lot more than you ever would? Nobody cares. Cry a fucking river and move on. Or maybe respect the prices women set for themselves because that's how they perceive their worth. Don't think she's worth that? Why argue and cry about it? Just move on to the next.

$100 is cheap as fuck. And you usually get what you pay for in looks abd thrills. Maybe try not being so God damn cheap.

Isnt $309 - $500 reasonable for an hour with a hot woman? Once you get above that range it gets to the territory of very high end model escorts, famous ig models, famous pornstars...

Sirachabob

A baby helps strengthen bonds and a woman is always bound to the father of her baby. Makes it much harder to leave.

She probably does love him. That's why she does it for him. He loves what she does for him.

A lot of boyfriend pimps go for a fuck boy or pretty boy style. It's the ones like that that are yhe most dangerous. The ones who will pull a gun out the quickest coz its all they can do

Good points

And i gues it goes both ways, I don’t know if she wanted to get pregnant or he did and who wants the other more and who is trying to force the other to stick around more

Do you have any idea why they haven’t gotten married even with the baby... does she not want marriage or does he not want it

Isnt there something going on if someone’s had a kid but still not married makes it seem one of them is hesitant to commit?

They post their love on social media at least on her profile

What you mean he loves what she does. He loves that she whores for him?

What does a fuck boy or pretty boy style look like

Also random but which pornstars are your top in terms of looks

People don't marry as much as they used to. Maybe the families are estranged. Who knows. I wouldn't put weight on that.

Fuckboys and pretty boys just follow every trend they can. That varies by where you're at.

Elisa Ibarra and Anisa Kate are really hot to me. I don't keep track of pornstar names though