Transmitting Viruses

since when can goats cut hair and wear high heels?

This issue of Penthouse Forum sucks.

Probably not the best choice of a title. Just sayin...

If you're reading this @SJG, I wonder whether (1)this story is about an actual trip you made to an AMP, where you had sex with the owner or, (2)you wrote a fictional account of an encounter where an AMP worker fell in love with you in the first 90 seconds, or (3) you're at the point where you can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality? I'm guessing the latter.

"she just stiffened"; "She even tried to back up"; but I [pinned her to the] front of a wall; "We had known each other less than 90 seconds."

"Rape? But your Honor, it was completely consensual. Haven't you heard of FRMOS?" Prosecutor smiles broadly while shaking his head in disbelief. And someone loses internet access for a much longer period this time. And scene.

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I took her by the hand and led her into a session room. A few soft words. The first time she just stiffened, didn't really just let it happen. She even tried to back up, but I has positioned her 1cm in front of a wall. The virus transmission rate was still substantial.

A few more words and the shoulders dropped and she more than made up for it. Virus transmission was maximized. And I also know that the moons of Jupiter froze in their orbits. We had known each other less than 90 seconds.
"

Fortune favors the bold.

SJG

^ That's what Bubba and Jamal and Carlos will say as they trade your honey buns for Honey Buns.

Yeah ... I also thought it was both creepy and rapey. Figured I'd let someone else say it before me for once.

I can see why people have a soft spot for this lovable, harmless guy. Such a character!

"you're at the point where you can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality? I'm guessing the latter."


Props to you rummy, one of the few things you've said that makes actual sense!

“ I can see why people have a soft spot for this lovable, harmless guy. Such a character.”

Hey 2Icee said he’s the goat on here and he’s always right!!!!

Second time I saw her she gave me a little strip show. Everything above the waist came off, then everything below the waist. Then, without me having to say one word, her extremely high stilletto pumps went back on. Then bare feel up and DFKing began.

We finished up as usual, she on her back, and arm locked around my neck, and ramming her tongue into my mouth.

SJG

So at the start of the COVID hysteria, Anthony Fauci said that he travels to other countries and sees people wearing masks in sidewalk cafes. He says that the thinks that would be better, for here, and all the time!

Anthony Fauci, this is how the women will be dressing where we are going to send you:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/burqa-ban-…

SJG

^^^ Loves Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but hates Anthony Fauci.

The difference? He doesn't blame AOC for shutting down his access to library internet.

^

Lol !

Phoung and I were having intense makeout sessions, but if Fauci, Newsom, Cody, and Biden could have had their way, that would be impossible, or just prohibited.

Last time I saw her, some months had passed, and she was miffed. Women don't like being placed on a shelf. And I saw that what she really wanted was to be my mistress.

I had decided that I was already too far into dangerous terrain, and so I should not take her up on that.

What I really needed was either a Marriage Councilor or a Divorce Lawyer. Eventually I would be dealing with both. But at that time I decided that I needed to shift to strict marital fidelity.

Phoung though told me that she was leaving, selling her shop that very day. She had had run ins with LE. She was going back to San Francisco. In San Francisco you can run an AMP with all dolled up Viet Coffee Grade Hotties. But in South Bay, its not that that would cross new legal lines. Its simply that it provokes the imagination of the neighbors. And then they, not caring about due process or probable cause, will put incredible pressure on police. Everything here revolves around the inflated real estate costs.

Phoung was really great, and today I would handle such a woman completely differently.

SJG

Peter Frampton - Do You Feel Like We Do - Live 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5PgG4ak…

^^^ And this is how we find out that an AMP shut down and moved just to escape SJG's creepy, rapey vibe.

"Phoung was really great, and today I would handle such a woman completely differently."

I'm sure that you've learned to tie many new knots since then.

Anyway, not sure if you knew that you've been asked a direct question:
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7642…

And so where was Gavin Newsom? If he had had his way, we've both have been cited for not wearing our masks.

Fauci would like to make such impromptu makeout sessions impossible, because everyone is always masked, even in sidewalk cafes.

I was from South Bay, she from San Francisco. Suppose there was some phylogenetic drift in the running viruses. Exchanging viruses gave us each an immune system update, and before anything was likely to develop such that the transference of immunity would be limited. We were getting updated before anything problematic could develop. If you ask me, I say this is very smart.

SJG

Fuck the masking. I'll go along with it for March and April 2020. But then it should have ended. It makes people crazy and it creates risks of bullying and violence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41ngUnkP…

SJG

Iron Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9JV7vBz…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pTEokDs…

Ronettes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT1QqjFz…

Stairway to Heaven, no acoustic guitar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbhCPt6P…

Shocking Blue - Venus, rare version, played with only what you see on stage, and no unbelievable video cuts. Actually live, not for the television studio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWb8_DH8…

^^^^^^ Alex Brenenson is really good!

SJG

Transmitting Viruses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eo8LJ7V…

SJG

Transmitting Viruses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLnmMac…

SJG

What comes to mind now is another AMP session. I went in at my lunch time and I found a very pretty young girl. A little bit chubby, and quite rare in a Vietnamese AMP girl. Very pretty, nicely painted up, and in strapped on high heels. A bit of extra weight really gave her nice hips.

We went into the session room and talked a bit, just getting to know each other. The first time I moved to kiss her she did look puzzled for a small fraction of a second, then I could see how she realized what was happening and shifted gears, to enthusiastic DFKing. Still, she was not completely used to that, but she had no reluctance.

Well after that there was little to say, this was not going to be massage and happy ending. She accepted the friend price right off, no questions. Today though I would go much higher, because I understand such things better, and if I was in the room with her, then I'd be planning on bedding down with her.

Her dress came off and things proceeded and we ended up as usually, she on her back, her arm locked around my neck, ramming her tongue into my mouth.

Transmitting, really sharing, viruses, and how we immunize each other against newly emerging strains, or newly developing genetic drifts. We get immunized, our immune systems get updated, before they get far enough that we could be without existing immunity. Precautions and isolations only make this take longer and lead to deeper sickenesses.

SJG

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photos/5d699507cd73c
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1061

Led Zeppelin: Live on TV BYEN/Danmarks Radio [Full Performance]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-WSbMW7…

One time at one of our underground clubs, one of the dancers was ready to leave, but she came up to me and got her arm around me and was nuzzling. She was trying to line me up for prompt OTC.

I gently repositioned her head so we were close face to face and opened my mouth so she could see I was trying to initiate open tongue kissing. Quickly she discerned what was up and she complied whole heartedly.

Now they did not want that going on at that club at that time. But we still did it.

Better to get an immune system update that way, before any radical virus mutations get going and give you anything which it will be harder to recover from.

SJG

I don't go along with FOX News and its world view. But here they are challenging the masking requirments and the COVID hysteria, and I do go along with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnElXk_M…

SJG

I remember another transformative virus spreading session.

I came over at lunch time to a new AMP I had come to like. I went in and did not see any girls. Then one came out and got right up in my face. No medical like counter between us, just right up in my face. So I might have said something to her and then I agreed to the session.

Usually this would mean being told to lie face down on the table as she begins back massage. But she did not do that. Right away the long dress came up ans off and she had both of our clothes and had me on my back and she jumped on.

That's fine if she wants to do it that way, but I was not used to that. Usually I would come on to the girl and begin our makeout session.

I think this girl had just come down from San Francisco, and they do things like that there. Compared to South Bay, they are really off the hook. They have much less fear of LE.

So being on my back, I gave her nice titty massage and full front side massage. And I would get her low on the hips and lift her up some, so that I would not be passive and could use different thrusting angles. I stroked her spine and held her right on the tail bone and base of the spine when I let my load go.

I also gave a good deal of DFKing, gentle, but very deliberate and sustained.

She never resisted this at all.

The virus transmission rate must have been extreme. But this is how you get your immune system updated. And especially with she coming from San Francisco, this was a great opportunity.

In kissing her I was just really telling her so extensively I was just really telling her that I liked her, and that I really meant my words of flattery.

She was so pretty, and so painted up, and getting so saucy right in front of my face, that kissing her so extensively was just the most natural thing I could do.

I had come over so nice from work in suit and tie. When going to a shop where they don't know you, that does seem to make a big difference. I guess that is My System.

So much hand on, and taking the lead sometimes in the thrusting, and then so much kissing, it did slow things down.

This goes back to some lengthy exchanges with MrLDK82 that I had when I first joined. Not really enamored with the idea of LDKing. It amounts to guys learning to cum fast. And the way they do this is by trying not to cum.

In both women and men, arousal starts by the parasympathetic rising up and taking over. And then climax occurs when the sympathetic nervous system rises back up to stop that oceanic feeling from going any further.

So if a guy wants to make it go on for a long time, he just has to go with that oceanic feeling. Get off on the girl's face, and her tits, and her ass, everything. Feel your breathing going into her, at all the places of contact. Feel the energy flows, and the places it resonates between the two of you.

And gentle deliberate DFKing. This girl was extremely pretty and she clearly knew that. But nothing wrong with making sure she felt that in her bones when she was with me.

And virus transmission is important and necessary.

SJG

Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter - Live '95 Amsterdam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoCCSh1F…

^^^^^ Then she said something which surprised me. She said that I should come and see her again off of the lunch hour, because at lunch time they try to do as many as possible, where as if I wanted "to go a long time" that would be better at another time.

I had not thought I had take a long time. But anyway, I saw her point. Usually the girls are pretty good and an hour is an hour. But I guess at lunch time, and especially San Francisco style, an hour means as fast as possible. And that's why she took this instant make it happen approach. And I get the feeling that most guys will pop right away if the girl gets into it.

Now today I know how to let her go over the top and to make position changes without withdrawal, and just to go with that oceanic feeling, and a lot of other stuff which intensifies the experience. Civvies you speed up. But pros you slow down, not be resisting, but by intensifying it.

Today I would know how to get the girl so far off script from the very start that she would not know what is happening as our makeout session started right in the front room, and deliberately in front of the other girls. And right away she would be lined up for spending the night sleeping in my bed.

But this was way back when I was still learning.

And one must never underestimate the importance of transmitting viruses by slow gentle deliberate DFKing. Make her feel in her bones how much you like her.

SJG

Regular Virus Transmission With Pretty Girls Extends Life Expectancy By 20 years.

And soon it will Muslim Moderate Afghan Hotties working in Massage Parlors, Hostess Dancing Clubs w/ Makeout Rooms, and Strip Clubs with easy going front rooms.

SJG

^^^^^ some of those hostess dancers omitting their under panties, and some of the hostess clubs having no real interest in regulating what goes on in the dark makeout rooms.

And always, maximal virus transmission.

SJG

We need to build immunity like with the other diseases in the strip clubs.

You got it. I build immunity every chance I get. And this will be increasing. Sharing viruses with pretty girls adds 20 years to your life expectancy.

SJG

FRMOS transmit the ritard gene to PLs. That’s why I wait until the backroom before my own pants are to come down before making out with them. The fgirl really loosens up when she is into it and you ha e privacy. She doesn’t when her manager is watching us in the front room.

You engage with her in the front room, and it will effect her, letting her GF's see it. Also, then you are not taking her into the back room until it is really needed and the two of you are ready for it.

SJG

I reflect on another time in a San Francisco AMP. I walked in, all the girls in high heels, and those uniform dresses.

I wanted one, but she was busy straightening something out on the telephone with the owner.

So another one I had not seen jumps right in front of me, on her feet. I accepted. She took me in a sort of back room, no massage table, and spread a bed sheet on the carpeted floor, and put a pillow on it. Asked me if that was okay. I agreed.

I approached her, she was very pretty and all painted up. I initiated virus transmission. She really went all out for that.

Then her dress snaps came undone and off, and she got my clothes off. Everything off except her high heels. This shop had way above average high heels discipline.

She went down on to her back, guided me on to her and put me in. Then she wrapped an arm around my neck and resumed ramming her tongue into my mouth, maximizing the virus transmission rate.

Today I would know better how to lead it myself, but it still worked out very well.

Of course I supported my weight, but she could pull on me with her high heels and make us grind. That was often when she was most intense on ramming her tongue into my mouth, and maximizing virus transfer.

She would have been a very good girl to be waking up in the mornings with, which seemed to be what she wanted.

Overall a very good, well worthwhile, educational experience. But better if you are ready to take your girl home with you and to start seeing her regularly.

Better than civvie places as girls mostly don't dress and paint up like that, and usually no immediate FS happens.

SJG

Regular virus transfer with pretty girls increases life expectancy by 20%

SJG

I reflect on another San Francisco AMP visit. I went in and selected. But somehow something got fouled up, and so they had to substitute girls on me.

Now usually that is not good. The new girl did not see you select her and she was not privy to any preliminary flirting.

Okay, but we went ahead. The girl was a few years older than the others, but very nice looking.

So I was on this bedsheet spread out on the carpet. She unsnapped her uniform dress and took off everything except her high heels.

This shop had a good a high heels discipline, dolling up and looks standard as good as any strip club.

I moved over and she got down on her back on the bed sheet and she guided me on to her and put me into her.

Usually girls want you to kiss them. So just as an expression of how much I liked her I did. She reciprocated in the usual way, locking an arm around my neck, and commencing the ramming of her tongue into my mouth.

So, were were off Much more off the hook than our South Bay pros, and those much more off the hook than any civvies.

Better to have selected her myself, approaching on my feet. In San Francisco you can use various devices to get her DFKing right there in the front room.

Today I would do more to lead it, and to make it really good for her, and likely to be taking her home with me right after.

Cellular life has evolved in symbiosis with viral life. These were not vaccines, these were live viruses. But this is our evolutionary history. Sharing viruses with pretty girls can rejuvenate you, but you need to do it regularly.

SJG

Phoung, mentioned first was a petite girl. But the next two mentioned were not, more medium sized girls, just like this next one.

I went into a local amp. This girl was very pretty and young, nicely dressed, could take her anywhere.

I agreed to the session and went in to the room with her. She got my clothes off of me and wanted me to lie face down on the table, as is usual.

I tried to kiss her and she said, "No Kiss".

Then she asked me what I wanted to do and how much I was going to tip her. So just kind of teasing her I asked, "How much for kiss?"

Then she thought about that for a minute and realized the impasse she had set up. So now she had her arms around me and next she was pushing her tongue into my mouth.

Now in those kinds of situations women are extremely easy to deal with, so she quickly accepted what the friend price I offered, then she took off her outer wear and her under wear and lay down on the table.

They say the first thing that porno starlets need to learn is how to fuck in high heels.

So when she started to undo the straps on her shoes, a gentle hand on her's and a soft word, and she reversed.

Then she guided me to climb onto her and she put me in. Then she locked an arm around my neck and resumed ramming her tongue into my mouth.

What that meant was that her body had taken over. When it comes to sex, women are completely insane. Once her body takes over, all she wants is your load.


Very pretty, totally Americanized, speaks perfect English.

It would be excellent to have her sound asleep with her head on my shoulder. Some AMP girls have ended up like this right away, in the session room

Were this today, I would do a much better job of getting her completely off script and lined up for TLN right in the front room, and likely beginning our DFKing in the front room.

And after giving it up on her back for me so nicely, she does not just want to be just left there. If I can't take her right out the front door with me, at least she will want contact information and to know exactly when I will see her again.

Exchanging viruses with pretty girls is rejuvenating. And these are not de-activated vaccine viruses, these are live viruses. But cellular life and viral life have evolved together, symbiotically. So this is our evolutionary history. But to make it work, you need to do the virus exchange with lots of pretty girls regularly.

SJG

I reflect on another AMP girl, at a favored place in Sunnyvale.

I entered, did not see any of my regulars. But I did see this one girl. We had noticed each other but never sessioned. So we agreed to the session and went into a the room. Then she left me for a few moments.

She was wearing a dress with long full skirting.

When she returned .....

SJG

So my new girl came back into the room. I moved towards her, but she pulled back to the opposite side of the room, to give me a full view. Then she pulled her dress up and off over the head. I think she still had her underwear on, but more important, she was wearing back thigh high stockings, and red high heels.

To show her that I liked, I moved towards her and initiated DFKing. The virus transmission rate was very high. She was all go.

Now to back up, I know there was a girl who put her up to this, Angela. I had sessioned with Angela and it was great. She always wore thigh high stockings and was always painted up and wearing long earrings. She was a real trip.

She would wear a wrap around skirt, so she could show guys the tops of her stockings in the front room. Other girls that had left that shop told me it was because Angela was stealing their customers.

So with my new girl, it was great. She made it into a full blown Girl Friend Audition. It doesn't get better than that.

So I was generous with her, as I had also been with Angela.

Now usually if a shop knew me and then briefed a girl about me, then it was always mind blowing.

This new girl was telling me I did not need to give her so much money. I was clearly puzzled. She said, "We maybe sometime you don't have so much money and you want to see me."

Approached the right way, women love to be kissed, love to be fucked, and love to be handed money. And what they want is more of all of these things. So to say that one of these is paying for the others is just a complete misunderstanding. What this girl wanted, just like Angela, and just like so many others, was really vastly more than what I was offering, or in a position to offer. That is just the way it goes.

The girls like me because I treat them like ordinary women, never try to use money to persuade them, never act like money buys them.

SJG

So this is a more recent account. A place in Cupertino. I walked in, just to window shop. But I was really taken with this girl's looks, and extremely pretty girl, spoke perfect English.

So off we were to the session room, and I just gave her the friend price, which she readily accepted. She would not kiss. We did FS, and it was fine.

Then she was telling me how it would be when I take her out. Then on her feet she started giving me this air DFKing show of how it would be.

She got money and FS, but what she wanted was much much more. Most all of them are like this, they want much much more.

And she would be an ideal girl to do it with too. But I was not in a position where I was free to do that. So it did not happen.

Sure, today totally different. I'd have her lined up for our first date while we were still at the front counter, and probably for TLN too. Maybe she would kiss in the session room then, or maybe I'd just keep it to DATY and 69ing with her. Save FS for later. Eitherway it would have been fine.

But as it was I was not in a position to give her what she really wanted, even though she was an ideal girl for it.

SJG

People are ready to move beyond strip clubs, to something better:

https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1457

SJG

ESS JAY GEE

Girls that lead with the stripper hand shake, and with kissing, at King Henry 8th, Hawthorne CA. They say this is the sister club of Ron's, and that it has the same girls. At Ron's they are showing pussy. At KH-8 they invite guys to play with them in the back room.

:) :) :)

Not everyone in the US is a dry humping creep.

SJG

Yeah, topless on stage, but they say ANYTHING can be had. Very hands on your cock in the front room. So I am sure that with charm and generosity you can have all the makeout session you want. Then FS in the back rooms.

SJG

Rio Gentlemans Club, Los Angeles, they don't talk about such front room friendliness, but it sounds like it was just those reviewers that didn't know how to steer it that way.

Of course all CA places closed for the shut down, but this seems to be open.

Bliss Showgirls, La Puente, reviewed 10/10/2021

Very dark, and pricey. Guys don't talk about front room friendliness, but seems like it could be had.

SJG

Paradise Gentleman's Club, City of Industry

Reviewed 9/7/2021

After talking for a bit she starts kissing my neck and licking my ear and talking super dirty into my ear on what she wants to do in the VIP

Another thing she does is DFK like crazy make out with tongue. When I left to the restroom to clean up. I felt like everyone was staring at me. Then I noticed in the mirror my entire face was covered in red lipstick. Either way. She’s always my go to at paradise.

^^^^^ this was in VIP, $200


But likely could have gone this way front room, then do VIP.

Most guys have not really learned how to make it happen with the women in strip clubs. But this place would most likely be very conducive.

SJG

Bare 'n' Legal still lists as closed

They don't talk about softening up girls with FRMOS, but it sounds like it might well be possible.

SJG

Strip Joint, Pomona

THey don't talk about using charm and generosity and getting a girl off script and into a FRMOS. But I still get the feel that it could be. You don't need to do this very often, cause the girl you select you'll be waking up with in the mornings.

SJG

Synn, City of Industry

$180 for 30 min vip.

They don't talk about getting girls off script and using charm and generosity to soften a girl up and then get her into a FRMOS. But I feel that it could be done. These guys just have not thought this through and they are not forward like that in kissing pretty girls.

And a Big Thank You to TUSCL and its Leadership!

SJG

City of Industry is in Los Angeles Country

Tropical Lei, Upland CA
last review Aug 30, 2021, and I think this is beyond the county limits, maybe San Bernardino?

They don't talk about getting girls off script and using charm and generosity to soften a girl up and then get her into a FRMOS. But I feel that it could be done. These guys just have not thought this through and they are not forward like that in kissing pretty girls.

I get the feeling though that probably anything could be done.

I am just reading the 6 newest reviews, not trying to go way back.

I see some of the same names that are on the TJ reviews, and they don't kiss the girls their either. Its just the way they are. They haven't learned. Usually women have very little in the way of defensible physical or emotional boundaries after DFKing.

And a Big Thank You to TUSCL and its Leadership!

SJG

Yes, Tropical Lei and Flesh, and Fantasy in Colton, are in San Bernardino Country

Flesh, San Bernardino

Yes, these guys buy dances and test drive the girls that way. They don't talk about getting girls off script and using charm and generosity to soften a girl up and then get her into a FRMOS. But I feel that it could be done. These guys just have not thought this through and they are not forward like that in kissing pretty girls.

I get the feeling though that probably anything could be done.

I am just reading the 6 newest reviews, not trying to go way back.



And a Big Thank You to TUSCL and its Leadership!

SJG

Jet Strip, Inglewood, CA ( i know that a couple years back this place really got toned down, regulated )

10/21/2021 last review

Yeah, people really like this place!

But, these guys buy dances and test drive the girls that way. They don't approach the girls, and they don't talk about getting girls off script and using charm and generosity to soften a girl up and then get her into a FRMOS. But I feel that it could be done. These guys just have not thought this through and they are not forward like that in kissing painted up pretty girls.

I get the feeling though that probably anything could be done.

I am just reading the 6 newest reviews, not trying to go way back.



And Big Thank You to TUSCL and its Leadership!

SJG

Lucydancesxx
https://tuscl.net/member-photos.php?id=6…

Yall act like it's impossible to seduce a dancer or a hoe. It's pretty easy. I've picked dancers up within less than half an hour. Not p4p

Temptations Gentleman's Club, Winterhaven CA. This is unincorporated, but just a stones throw from Yuma AZ.

Most of what I have heard about it is negative. Listed as open, but not reviewed since Jan 2018

Guy says they wear thigh high stockings!

But these reviews go back a number of years.

Nude, no alcohol


But, these guys buy dances and test drive the girls that way. They don't approach the girls, and they don't talk about getting girls off script and using charm and generosity to soften a girl up and then get her into a FRMOS. But I feel that it could be done. These guys just have not thought this through and they are not forward like that in kissing painted up pretty girls.

I get the feeling though that probably anything could be done.

I am just reading the 6 newest reviews, not trying to go way back.



And Big Thank You to TUSCL and its Leadership!

SJG

Lucydancesxx
https://tuscl.net/member-photos.php?id=6…

Gold Diggers, Fresno, last review July 1, 2021

Only 1 post covid review. This place had been topless w/ alcohol, but then it changed to nude no alcohol. This may have been because they lost their license.

I just read this last review. Sounds like only topless, and no topless off stage. Most of the dancers Mexican, and usually that means anything is possible if you come on to them and lead it.



And Big Thank You to TUSCL and its Leadership!

SJG

Lucydancesxx
https://tuscl.net/member-photos.php?id=6…

^^ oh for Christ’s sakes, I left around d 7 hours ago and yiu were spamming this board with fallacies! I bet you’re still claiming to build a sex cult and you’re going to lead it? I bet tha organization has one person in it! Go be it up yiu spamming leader of TUSCL!!

Educating myself, everything I am doing, and everything I plan to do depends on this continuing education.


Now, Club Fantasy, in Los Angeles. This is not a strip club, but rather it is a hostess dancing club.
307 W 4th St
Los Angeles, CA 90013

With the strip clubs I am just looking at the latest 5 or 6 reviews. But with these hostess dancing clubs, they are different and there are not that many of them, so I am going further back. Looking at 2018 era, and some are written by known highly credible mongers.

Well most of these guys don't know how to come on to a girl and get under her skin. So that really dampens it. But accounts say that the girls really dress slutty, and that really is all the girl needs to guy. Guy should be able to supply the rest.

Getting back into 2017

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There's different sections to the club, a dimly lit sit down section, a section with a really old tv and loveseats facing the tv, and then there's a dancefloor. There's a surprisingly large amount of women. It works kind of like a lineup, the girls come out and just wait to be approached. The girls were generally pretty attractive and ranged in both age and ethnicity.
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They weren't dressed in any one particular outfit, some were dressed more slutty then others. I first approached a Eastern European woman in her mid 20's...
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Yeah, most of these guys don't know how to make it happen with women.

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She seemed nervous about security (they walk around a lot) but she felt me up through my pants a bit, flashed her tits at me, let me grab a few feels etc. She also asked if I would want to hang out outside the club and fuck. So that seems to be a thing that happens.
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Walking around the club there are various girls that you can choose from, there is a good mix though. I saw white/european, latina, one asian, and I think that's about it.
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We got one guy who knows how to appreciate such venues,

"
New girls started arriving specially the white caucasians russian girls they look so hot once they changed and sat down on the couches for our eyes to see , dressed with super mini skirt and high heels real slutty they looked like a street walking whores Very hot some guys immediately grabbed some of them to the dance floor , and then more started to arrive there was even an asian girl to choose from i was impressed in el gaucho is only latinas there were latinas here also , my cock grew as we were starring at the girls like when you choose meat in a market there was a hot tall blonde european and i saw a brunnette, white , good body in a mini dress , good selection of girls.
"

SJG

Starlight is the other of the top rated LA Hostess Dancing Club. A review talked about a girl in a red minidress, and without underpants.

But I cannot see that it has any older reviews than the first 6.

The owner had been known for decades to engage in some sharp practices with the money.

Talked about here:
LA Hostess Dancing Clubs
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7683…

SJG

So there are about 4 or 5 of these clubs total. They are not FS, except for maybe one of them which supposedly has older women and a FS capability in some adjacent building.

LA Grand, has all Latinas, speaking no English. Concern about age of consent.

No place to sit down, no makeout room, so just grinding.

Listed as open, last review Jan 2019

guy that thinks the way I do:

"
arrived saturday night there were a few girls but things heat up and more girls come in as the night goes so much so the sluts stand behind the coach because there is no more room. Some are dress like they work in tijuanas zona norte complete whore vibe 2 bad they dont fuck in the club. You can pick the best looking slut and go dance you just need to have patience and get a good view and look at the girls dressed like whores.
"

"
more girls started to come in all latinas in their whore skirts and high heels they should be working in a tijuana club where they would be putting their pussy to work !!! Here as you know no fucking but you can dance with the girls and put your hands all over her depending on your game and you have to buy the slut a drink and probably wont drink it LOL In the hong kong whorehouse the girls drink !!!

They dont have white caucasian girls here like in club fantasy , but if you want latinas with their nice legs sitting down come here and you must know spanish , i saw this girl in a tight black mini skirt she looked like she was WHORING in the coahuelia nice body i was gonna pick her but then i realized this isnt a fuck house a puta whore club and we were not gonna fuck so i left .
"

Guy understands that it is all about how the girls dress and paint up. That is there part, the rest is the guy's part.

SJG

Good Picture
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3569

Does not get better than this
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3154

OMS Martinism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO9tamxx…

AMORC, Brazil, not in English, maybe Portugese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UATRmUrt…

^^^^^ LA Grand (LA Grind)

Yeah, couch area, but well lit and out in the open. Mention of DFKing, but it really cannot go beyond that. Girls not really so nice looking, but still an adequate selection. High heels, makeup, mini-dresses. And this is the most important. Slow dancing, ass play, often DFKing. But most of the guys do not know how to play it. Sound be enough to be waking up in the mornings with your selected girl.


SJG

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A to be published book:
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Las Palmas Ballroom, listed as closed and last review 2013

"
theres a juice bar and the girls looking like slut are there standing with there mini skirts they looked ready to fucked if you ask me
"

"
i got her number i also bought her a drink there , i also put my hands through her skirt , overall good place to find girls.
"

^^^^ guy who thinks the way I do.

"
Level 3 was split into 3 rooms. A slow dance room, a tv room and a pool room. We started in the slow dance room and sat down at a booth with a couch. We started to talk. Her primiary language was Spanish but spoke English very well. We got to know each other and then ordered some drinks from one of the waitresses. In this room I also noticed at least 7 very attractive girls dancing. Eventually we started to slow dance and it was nice. Maria was my girl's name and allowed a lot of touching. After a few dances we went to the TV room and sat on a sofa. The TV was in Spanish but we got very close on the sofa and I began to rub all over her body which she seemed to like. We continued to talk and I even asked for her number which she gave to me. I dont know if I will be calling her though since she mentioned she had 2 kids. After an hour in the TV room we went back to the main floor and I paid the club and tipped her out.
"

Yeah, but this is going back to 2012

SJG

Tropical Club, listed as open but last review 2016, and only 8 reviews total. Most credible reviewer sees it as very negative.


And reviews going back like 15 years, negative.

Probably DFKing on the couch could happen, and that's enough to get most girls into bed.

SJG

So El Gaucho, listed as closed, last review 2017, one credible review likes it. Say girl are middle aged and heavy, but still adequately slutty. This must be the 5th club, the one which at least had a nearby FS capability.

So, no more about LA Hostess Clubs.

SJG

Charlie's
3140 W Florence Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90043

I remember this as being called Charles's Live Entertainment

listed as open

Just looking at first 6 reviews. Has alcohol. Has all the makings of King Henry 8th. But it is in Muni Los Angeles

Black.

Doesn't sound like much.

SJG

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photos/5d699507cd73c
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1061

Bondage Harness Lingerie
https://www.etsy.com/listing/856981278/b…

Bunny's Ultimate Showgirls
17415 Catalpa St
Hesperia, CA 92345, USA

Close to Victorville and in the Apple Valley

Hwy 15 on the way to Barstow

Coming out of San Bernardino

Listed as open.

but last review Oct 2020.

People still had to stay masked.

looks like no alcohol, nude

Paul Drake vetoed a review saying it was too explicit.

Hard to say much, so few reviews and people still having to stay masked.



Bakersfield, I think they have about 8 clubs, only 1 of them nude.

well 3 listed as open.


Deja Vu, Oct 5, 2021

Guy says he took a girl into VIP and she did BBBJ and BBFS. But they wait for the girls to approach them and buy dances.

Does seem to be nude!


Exotic Kittys

Last review Sept 2020

12 minute VIP $100.

This might also be nude.


Teaser Pleaser, March 2020

Yes, all 3 sound like they are nude. No real talk of Front Room Friendliness. Just waiting for the girls to approach, buying dances or VIP time, and seeing what happens.

I think it could go better, but hard to know from these kinds of reviews.

SJG

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photos/5d699507cd73c
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1061

Bondage Harness Lingerie
https://www.etsy.com/listing/856981278/b…

Lets go back to Fresno, looked already at Gold Diggers

City Lights lists as open and as being in the extremely conservative Clovis. It is right near the airport.

Believed to be alcohol/topless. But last review Dec 2016! So who knows.

Talk about dances out in the open, and still no touching, bounders watching closely. Sinclair wrote the most informative review.

Okay, should be one SR each in Santa Barbara, and in Santa Maria. I got on well with a local dancer from Brazil who had worked at both.

Believe that both are nude no alcohol.


Santa Barbara, Sept 2019

One guy liked it, "find the right dancer", but it is still tiered skin levels when you buy dances. Idiotic. Front Room people!

Say that it is a rip off thing with Bouncers and Dancers in on it.

Now looking at Santa Maria

One expert reviewer, and he doesn't have anything good to say.


Santa Barbara looks to have a couple of good AMPs, and Santa Maria even more.


Between here and San Jose, nothing but AMPs and maybe some underground Mexican bars.

Skipping Santa Clara County.

But looking how at Hanky Panky, Redwood City, actually though in unincorporated area.

Only one in the county, listed as closed, and with a curious history.

But I have always liked it.

July 2019

Alcohol / Topless

Well, reviews don't disclose much. The club has talked about contact lap dancing. But the real issue is front room, never really been that there. But historically most of the dancers have done all the immediate OTC they can.

SJG

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photos/5d699507cd73c
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1061

Bondage Harness Lingerie
https://www.etsy.com/listing/856981278/b…

So lets talk about San Francisco. Don't know that status of MBOT. Crazy Horse could be good, but the reverse ATM machines fuck it up. And the tiered skin level of dances fucks it up.

So mostly the no alcohol places, mostly.

Centerfolds, Sept 2021, Nude
Buying dances, hundreds of $. Hallmark of a clip joint, and Centerfolds is the DV flagship.

This place is intended for tourists, for idiots.

New Century, July 2021, Nude

Does not sound good, but some of the reviews were during the COVID precautions.

Little Darlings, Nude, Sept 2019, Black

Yeah, girl talking about $500 VIP. But they say the girls are pushy.

Probably even DV cannot really regulate the girls that closely, so FRMOS might be possible if you play it right. Still, DV will control the fees for the back room.


Garden of Eden, Nov 2019, open, Nude

Girl quoting $600 for half hour, $1200 for hour. Very regulated space, no talk of front room friendliness.

Roaring 20's listed as closed, seemed to be undergoing renovation before COVID.

Lets look at Gold Club, Food, alcohol, topless

July 2021, open.



ALL LOOKS PRETTY SUCKY! Maybe you could go in and get a dancer outside without spending too much, but otherwise a joke.

San Francisco has awesome AMPs!!!

SJG

TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photos/5d699507cd73c
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1061

Bondage Harness Lingerie
https://www.etsy.com/listing/856981278/b…

^^ what time does the library close today? 5;00 or 5:30? I need to know when it is quiet without your spamming up this board!

^^^^ What time does your Grave Digger retraining start?

SJG

San Jose Public Library
3411 Rocky Mountain Drive
San Jose, CA


Free wi-fi available

Doesn't seem to restrict access to sexually oriented websites

Good bike rack outside to park your Huffy

Librarians are fully clothed, pets allowed and usually nude

You can drop your pants and shuffle around the bookshelves, they can't really see from the main desk

Rest room good place to jerk off while watching men pee

No books about bestiality/goatfucking, but don't need them if already an expert

Some good books about bondage

Many branch locations, when you get kicked out for lewd behavior, just go to another

Some have different hours so could be a problem late in the day


Give this place a try if you're a broke, socially awkward, goatfucker who likes to spend all your time posting useless incoherent bullshit on a strip club site.

SJG

Good picture
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=9067

This too
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=8983

^^^ same time as your corpse fucking session ends, LoydSchoene!

Centerfolds, nude, Chico, CA, not Deja Vu.

Nude, open VIP dance area. Could be fun, but need to be after the COVID precautions, and need to be getting girls outside.

People talk about how attractive the girls are and clearly people like it.


Tip Top Club and Bar
6269 Loma Ave
Eureka, CA 95503

alcohol, open

only strip club within a 300 mile radius, not good. Sounds so so. Again, need to get the women outside.

Okay, not it's just Stockton and the Sacramento Metro.

SJG

Deja Vu Stockton, June 2021
4200 West Ln
Stockton, CA 95208

has alcohol, so topless

30min dance for $200

This could be okay, no talk about Front Room Friendliness, but sounds kind of laid back. Want to get the girls outside.


Sacramento Metro Next

SJG

Déjà Vu Sacramento

THis place does not sound bad. Expensive yes, but a little more laid back. Not talk about front room friendliness. But you could probably get a girl outside.

In times past people have wrote about FS-ITC, finishing up with the girl on her back, arm locked around your neck, ramming her tongue into your mouth, just like it goes in AMPs.

Pure Gold,
Rancho Cordoba
much liked place

Yeah, its just buying dances. No talk of Front Room Friendliness. In this Metro, DV might be the best option.


Gold Club Centerfolds

I think there is like a porn and slut wear store with it.

Yeah, buying dances, no talk of Front Room Friendliness, have to get girls outside.


851 Richards, used to be the infamous Club Fantasy, nude. Now I think it is alcohol topless, and only 2 reviews ever.

Well, talk about panties off on second song. Pretty, slow, sometimes just one dancer, and you can talk to them. That opens the door to Front Room Tipping and Front Room Friendliness, and then what ever does not happen in there, happens OTC.

Okay, that is all I want to look at for CA. Skipped much of the Los Angeles area, in favor of those places with extreme reputations.

Other states will have their good places, but then there is also Tijuana.

SJG

SJG - one hamburger short of a happy meal.

Shailynn, trying to get him mom to pull the Pacifica over so he can get a hamburger.

SJG

About the LA Hostess Dancing Clubs. They are different from strip clubs. On the discussion forums they used to have for these people said they were more about romance. I think what they mean is that in slow dancing with the girl, and ass play, and in grinding, you are getting really friendly with her, spending a lot of time with her. And then generally it is set up to encourage and intensive makeout session on the couches.

Someone wrote in a review, "more girls started to come in all latinas in their whore skirts and high heels they should be working in a tijuana club where they would be putting their pussy to work !!! Here as you know no fucking but you can dance with the girls and put your hands all over her depending on your game and you have to buy the slut a drink and probably wont drink it LOL"

And yes he understands, it is how the girls are dressed and painted up. High heels, strapped on, mini-dresses, and then slutty makeup.

I mean, what do you want a woman to do:

1. Dress and paint up
2. Follow your lead
3. Offer up her three inputs without reservation.

So all the girl has to do is part 1. The guy should be able to make the rest of it happen and really get under the girl's skin.

SJG

Reviews of the LA Hostess Dancing Clubs, talking about how slutty the girls look, in stripper shoes and mini-dresses and all painted up. Well this is the way I think too.

And that is all the girl should really have to do. The guy should be able to do the rest, get under her skin and make it happen with her.

At these Dances and Extras oriented strip clubs they've gotten it all wrong.

https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7649…

SJG

San Jose Public Library
3411 Rocky Mountain Drive
San Jose, CA


Free wi-fi available

Doesn't seem to restrict access to sexually oriented websites

Good bike rack outside to park your Huffy

Librarians are fully clothed, pets allowed and usually nude

You can drop your pants and shuffle around the bookshelves, they can't really see from the main desk

Rest room good place to jerk off while watching men pee

No books about bestiality/goatfucking, but don't need them if already an expert

Some good books about bondage

Many branch locations, when you get kicked out for lewd behavior, just go to another

Some have different hours so could be a problem late in the day


Give this place a try if you're a broke, socially awkward, goatfucker who likes to spend all your time posting useless incoherent bullshit on a strip club site.

SJG

Good picture
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=9067

This too
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=8983

Black Diamonds 2.0
995 S West St
Jackson, MS 39201

They had a previous address. But at this one, still zero reviews.

SJG