Is there a TUSCL Formula for OTC

You need to talk to Rick. He’ll explain how you can do this for $200 and dinner at the Olive Garden.

This is the best formula I've come across so far for OTC:

https://www.county.org/TAC/media/TACMedi…

Y = $ + ->

$100 all night. 3 pops bareback. nines and tens only.

(hey. i can try...)

Based on your location - I will defer to Rick Dugan. If you let him know your zip code - he can give you a price per minute.

Formula is pick me hahahah man I love cock

LOL cash. Thanks I think but I overpay as much as anyone, especially when I'm traveling.

Dirty, IMHO you're way overthinking it, no doubt for comedic reasons. What's reasonable is of course primarily a function of the local market and the, secondarily, whether the girl is hot/fun enough to demand a premium over "normal" market rates. Since we don't know where you're seeing this girl, it's tough to opine on whether $1k is reasonable or not, but $500 will often get it done in most markets with most girls, outside of a handful of big money cities anyway. In smaller southern cities $300 can be more than enough. But again, there's too much we do not know here.

As far as per hour/per nut, I really don't think in that granular a way when it comes taking out strippers. If I wanted to have that kind of negotiation, I'd hire high volume girls off of STG. For me it's all about what's reasonable for a good time when everything is factored in.

But now that you've established this kind of expectation, you're probably stuck at that number if you want to keep seeing the same girl, so this may all be moot anyway. The big question though is how long you can sustain that level of spending and whether you want to drop that kind of coin regularly just for sex. I guess it depends in part on how frequently you see her I suppose and what your finances look like.

If you believe the experience you're getting is worth what you're paying, then you're good. Only you can answer that.

I usually pay $400 for OTC. That's far less than $1000, but dancers are happy because I give them a dinner of my famous lasagna.

@dirtyburt

I will play along and answer your questions:

Q: Is there a TUSCL Formula for OTC?
A: No

Q: Think I’m overpaying........???
A: I don’t think you are overpaying if you believe it is a reasonable price for a reasonable amount of time and reasonable service.

I think you feel/think/believe you are overpaying, that is why you asked the question.

It is all inside your head, it doesn’t matter what someone else pays her or doesn’t pay (boyfriend/husband/booty call/etc).

What should matter, to you, is if you are able to afford this hobby with her and are enjoying it.

Many people spend a lot of time, money and effort in other hobbies (stamp collecting, video games, etc etc etc) and feel it is a good hobby that makes them “happy”.

In your example, in my opinion, you are paying a reasonable price per hour for a 10 that provides girlfriend experience.

A 10 escort, in my opinion, would change between 400 to 900 an hour and more for GFE or PSE, overnight would be 1000 to 2000.

My opinion or anyone’s, should not matter, what matters is if you are happy with the arrangement and can afford it.

If you believe is worth your time, money and effort to get her OTC services, you should not have buyers remorse.

And remember Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

To scrub’s question, I definitely tend to scale what I’m willing to pay for OTC to a dancer’s beauty, versus the activities I expect. I see the most gorgeous 10+ dancers as being less attainable for OTC than girls that are lower on the hotness scale, even though I’ve had this theory disproven multiple times. A couple of years ago I was getting dances from a total smoke show hot dancer for the first time. The dances were great, and this was not at a club known for lots of OTC, but I figured what the hell I’ll make the pitch. I was floored when she said yes immediately, and for a very normal level of compensation. That experience (especially my multiple OTC sessions with her), taught me the lesson that I shouldn’t consider any dancer unattainable, and shouldn’t automatically assume I will have to empty the bank.

IME paying more hasn’t necessarily led to better-results – I’ve found that often times the girls that want above-going-rate either have some GPS or are not really into OTC/extras and may only do it if they can make a killing; and since they are not into-it they often don’t perform as well (i.e. often times the ones into it are ok w/ the going-rate) – not saying that paying a premium will never lead to better results, just IME I’ve actually been disappointed when I’ve paid above going-rate.

At the same time, the more $$$ there is on the line, the more there is for the dancer to lose if she does not provide an above-avg-experience and thus one can often get better service; especially if the dancer becomes accustomed to that fat-payment.

I’m not looking for a GF outside the club so even-less one inside the club – I’m into variety thus I rarely do OTC and spending hours w/ a particular girl does not have that much appeal to me although I can see how that could be a good time w/ a particular dancer one really enjoys – I def can’t see myself spending $1k on a dancer for a few hours, if anything I’d pay that for a weekend of doing stuff together (including banging of course) but it’s not something that crosses my mind too-often (and any OTC girl that charges me by-the-nut, gets black-listed).

I have a decent-amount of disposable-income (mainly since I don’t have a family to support and stick to a low COL) but I don’t necessarily have deep-pockets – I “could” spend $1k on a stripper 1x or 2x per month and still pay my bills but that would be a big-dent on my disposable-income and I couldn’t spend as freely on other things like enjoying other SC-visits and other dancers.

Well, the somewhat obvious view is: if you're loving the experience and the $ are easily affordable anyway, hard to say you're doing it wrong. There's a pretty good chance you can get strippers who are as-desirable, or even more desirable, for less -- I agree with Papi that there comes a point where higher prices stop translating into better girls and end in "I know my worth" stripperweb types. But if you're digging it, that's great.

Just for me, on OTCs I've come to enjoy spending relatively more $ on great restaurants and hotels that have at least a touch of a luxury feel. Hotel prices in the area were absolutely insane the past few years, but the dayrate apps sometimes have downright good hotels on them these days. Given $1000 budget, I might well see if I could spend half on her and half on the rest of the experience and only move the split if I had to. You can get a pretty gorgeous vivacious dayshift girl for that, though a hot nightshift girl will ask for more.

My rule of thumb for OTC is about $50 above 2/3 the price of a half hour champagne room dance rounded down to the lowest multiple of 50, is a good starting point for an hour's time OTC.

For example $250 for a half hour comes to $200, $300 comes out to $250. Some dancers like to use an hours time for an hour and a half, and if she's hot enough I'll agree but add an extra $25 to it, so $500 becomes $400, and $600 becomes 450.

Would never pay a flat 1K for OTC. Plus there's the hotel, some drinks, maybe dinner. The most I paid was $600 plus $200 for the room and $100 for dinner. That's $900 which is a bit steep for my tastes. But she was a smoking hot dancer at a bikini club that did not offer extras at all. I was her regular and we had a good connection. But I have other sugar babies I can do for $300 and it they're damn good too. I got lucky that her roomie was out of town so no hotel and no dinner. Just a flat $300 which I prefer. If it is $1K I think I'd rather jerk.

If there’s one thing you can take away from this thread, it is CJ Kent has never ever done OTC in his entire life.

I had to think about that a bit, desertscrub. Thinking back to the clubs I have visited to other the years the price for VIP is roughly 1/5 total number of songs you can can possibly get in 3 hours at a club rounded up to the nearest 50. I was actually shocked how many of them met this calculation exactly, so there may be some rule involved that some MBA may know of.

At most clubs I go to that comes out to about 51 possible songs at 3.5 minutes per song, divide by five and you get 10.28 songs, so at $20 a pop that rounds up to $250, $25 a pop rounds up to $300. From there you just do the same math, and that $250 becomes $200, $300 becomes $250, etc.

Average for me is probably 300. I try not to go much higher. Occasionally 250 will be sufficient. I don’t want to offer much more because realistically it would be rare for me to spend more than that often. Girls probably won’t go down on an established rate so if I were to pay 1000 for a girl I really wanted that would probably be the only time it happened. However if you don’t pay it the offer might come down in the future setting a bar I might can sustain. However if your girl is that great and you’re comfortable with the price then 1k is fine.

@dirtyburt

You wrote, and I quote:

“she proclaimed. I think I just got Face Fucked”

Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen.

:D

Some of you are way overthinking this. Based on trial and error over the years, $300 does the job more often than not. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. I have never paid $1K, or even close to it, and never will.

I have a 33 y.o. Latina. I get a room at Doubletree, some booze, go two or three nuts at least over 2 to 4 hours. Normally facefuck, doggie and sometimes anal. She is a solid 7,great body and she is no real drama. 700 or so each time.

desertscrub, that is some good advice. you should write an otc guide lol

^ please don't encourage him

Thanks for all the input. The group that was on the low end say $300, never commented on how much time was spent. I am thinking anywhere from 30-60 minutes, then they hit the road..Don’t think most dancers would spend half a night for $300. Unless they had no place to go home to.
I definitely am not looking for that.
My particular dancer and I have known each other for about 5-6 years. She turned down OTC until January of this year, because of some bad experiences
Overall the price seems steep at times, until you try to deal with the SS of other dancers. I have very few bills, and still save money each month, since I am not running around at other clubs looking and hoping for action.
A second dancer is in the works, and I suspect the price will be about half as much..and the talent about equal. Just don’t know how much time will be allocated for the event.
The $1000 event is affordable to me, so no issues with that. The occurrence has typically been once a month, and may stretch out to every six weeks or so in the future.
The only other OTC I had, was in Dallas while I was working there for a week this winter. It was only her second event, and she was shaking when we got to the room. She asked me if I was going to kill her. It set me back $500 for the hour, and she was a clock watcher. So with that in mind, I think I am doing fine with the time I am currently getting.
Thanks again for all the replies. I also enjoyed the humor and opinions.
Be Safe, have fun
DB