Sequels and Remakes for the most part really suck

Worst remakes I've seen. Red Dawn. Man that remake stunk-enough said!

And nightmare on elm street remake. Lets replace Robert England with a short guy. I've heard the reasoning was because Jason voorhees was played by so many different guys. Well Jason wore a mask (or a potato sack that looked more like a pillowcase in part two haha). Nightmare on elm street also made Freddy the grounds keeper at the school with the claw idea coming from a small gardening rake. Holy shit how clever! I saw it for free (in the theatre-brother in law had passes) and still want my money back!

Sequel I did like besides empire strikes back was gremlins. Hoping to get a 3rd movie and rumour was that different liquids (cokes, alcohol, juices) would affect the mogwai I believe they were called differently. But all we got after all this time was the recent mountain dew commercial!

Coming 2 America 2 was the worst piece of woke shit I’ve ever seen. Anybody that genuinely likes that movie I have no interest being friends with. The original was a smart, charming film. The sequel was a half slapstick half musical disaster. I guess when you have 10 kids with 5 different women... anything for a paycheck, right Eddie?

THe remakes that have been raping my childhood memories are the most soulless pieces of shit Hollywood has come up with since Brie Larson. Robocop - lacked all of the humor, wit, and humanity of he original. Poltergeist - not even remotely scary, and the laziest filmmaking I can think of. All of the horror reboots - Elm Street, Friday 13, Halloween, Predator. I'm trying to slog through the Justice League remake. It does a better job with character exposition and backstory, but is just so damned boring.

I had hoped that the pandemic might show people that they do not need Hollywood stars and professional athletes for entertainment, and maybe reduce the influence and attention these woke children unwarrantedly demand. Unfortunately, people are falling back into the same old bad habits.

Another horrid remake? The Omen. I had never seen scarface with Paul Muni until this year and was unaware of how the pacino version was so similar. Godfather II is the only sequel to ever win an academy award.

I have to agree that most sequels suck. I'm not a fan but James Bond movies seems to keep doing well. I think the worst sequel I've seen was "Basic Instinct 11".

Exception to that rule was T2. The 2nd Terminator movie was awesome. They had a lot bigger budget to work with than the 1st movie.

There are exceptions - but Hollywood sequels are simply an attempt to capitalize off the success of the first film.

The Godfather 2 was a major exception.

In porn land - there are too many sequels to count. One of my favorite porn sequels is Pretty Peaches 2. But there were fails too - as Insatiable 2 was nothing compared to the first one.

last decent sequel i saw was the raid 2, an indonesian action flick.

forget about sequels.how about hollywood coming up with originals that will stand the test of time? at the moment i don't see many film makers creating movies that make me think that they are going to be the scorsese, kubrick, cameron, etc. i'm sure there are a few up and comers but you'll have to weed out a lot of bad ones. the only one i can think of that has the potential to be in that level maybe chad stahelski.

I think a lot of superhero movies get more fun as sequels. Mostly because a lot of origin stories—how the hero gets established as the hero— in my opinion requires more delicate directing to prevent them from getting too tedious.

Not a movie but a TV series, Cobra Kai, I think does a good job of paying homage to the original while going in an awesome new direction. Plus it’s pretty cool that most of the older cast members were the actual actors from the original Karate Kid movies.

Otherwise, yes I generally agree with the main point.

The Godfather II was the rare exception in that it was spectacular while being a sequel and a prequel at the same time.

I only saw a few minutes of Coming 2 America. I was drunk and on vacation in New Orleans so when our group of friends decided to watch it, I couldn't get into it at all and went back to my own hotel room to pass out. The movie also crashed halfway through so no one got to finish it. But we all knew it had gotten bad reviews. Couldn't tell you anything that happened in it because I was so uninterested.

The guy remade The Magnificent Seven should be made to get a lap dance from Rosie O’Donnel. The original had an unbelievable cast and was great. The new was pure garbage. And Godfather 2 I think was better than the first one.

Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible, Ocean 10, National Treasure, Pink Panther, Star Wars, amongst other movie product, seem to make the thought that all remakes suck - An extremely dimwitted take!

On the remake side of things, I watched the more current versions of "The Thomas Crown Affair", "Ocean's 10", and "The Italian Job" - without the knowledge that they were remakes. I enjoyed the original movies (Steve McQueen, Frank Sinatra, Michael Caine) after and I enjoyed all three of them as well!

I think that one thing that makes a sequel enjoyable is if it is made as a part of a continuing story, i.e. - Star Wars, The Godfather 1 & 2 (Won't talk about G3, lol) and the Ring series.

Another is independent series made with continuing characters (Star Trek). Here the writers and directors make a huge difference, as even Star Trek alternated poor and excellent efforts.

Too often, plot lines are lost or buried in "improved" special effects.

The common thread in great sequels- T2, the MCEU, Star Wars Ep. 5, Godfather 2, LoTR- is that the sequels either continue the story or expand the universe.

Some, like Star Wars (unsure), LoTR, and Marvel were made as part of what was always intended to be a story arc spanning more than a single movie. Others, like T2 and Godfather 2, were expansions of the world and story done by a passionate team dedicated to the the original.

Of course, even if all the above conditions are met, that doesn't guarantee a grwat film. I am suprised at how many terrible films have all-star casts. Almost all Netflix films are crap, no matter who they sign to cast.

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I agree that serial movies that were based on a single work like LOTR seem to turn out better. Re Godfather 2, both it and the first movie were based on a single book. Godfather 3 was based on an affair Sonny had in the book and what became the Andy Garcia character. Other than the affair, all of the material in Godfather 3 was outside the original book.

I agree with most of the examples of good sequels posted above. I’d add X-Men 2 and The Dark Knight to those. Harry Potter as well. Not so much for the Divergent, Hunger Games and Twilight series.

Also, The Road Warrior.

Yeah I forgot about Road Warrior. I like 2 and 3 way better.

I did watch a trilogy called the maze runner last year-actually end of 2019. It was recommended by a coworker who let me borrow the DVDs so I wasn't out any money. It was like if I hated the first one just bring em back. First one was good, second one was awesome and third one had a lot more action and much bigger budget but was a bit "cheesy" still good though.

So this was one of the rare movies where I thought the sequel was better than the original. Didn't mention it before because I had forgotten about it honestly. Wasn't exactly the most talked about trilogy made haha.

Question how good was lotr 3? I remember liking part 2 way back when as I saw it in the theatres. But I must not have liked it all that much as I got the 3 movie DVD box set for Christmas back in the good ole days. Still have it but never have watched it in all this time!

How in the fuck do you watch Fellowship of the Ring and the Two Towers, but not Return of the King?! (Unless, of course, you hated the first two.)

Most of the action with King Theoden, Gandalf, and Aragorn is pretty fucking awesome. Sam and Frodo get pretty fucking faggy. Golluk does Gollum. Definitely worth the watch.

As great as the original Charles Bronson Death Wish was; Death Wish 2 was actually better and the remake beyond fucking awful.

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I thought it was due to a stressful move, but I just looked on imdb and saw that lotr 3 was 2003 and my move back then was in 2002 (when part two came out).

I think I started working a lot more and different hours by then (same company different dept kind of thing).

My attention span for longer movies is the worst so I miss a lot of the 3 hour movies. This one I do want to see. Maybe by 2023 so I'll only be 20 years behind.

Can watch football for like 8 hours straight (3 games) on NFl Sundays and would spend 4-5 hours in a strip club before corona virus at least once a month I'd say. But just something about movies....even with Netflix I'm like oh I'm not watching that its too long (glad it shows runtimes up front for every movie).

But as for hating the first two, nope I liked them. Hating the first two would be star wars (1 and 2) where I have revenge of the Sith still in the shrink wrap. Of course that may because a friend and former roommate of mine tells me I have to watch it (guy loves star wars whereas I only liked 4,5,6 and pretty much refuse to watch anymore of them after how bad 1 and 2 were)

Oh and nice spice I love cobra Kai! I thought season 2 was actually better than the first season. Still liked season 3 but didn't think it was as good as season 2.

Hated karate kid 2 though back in the day (I was still a young kid haha).

The original Matrix remains one of my all time favorites. The two follow-ups (Reloaded, Revolutions) not so much. Worth watching but didn't come close to the first one. As far as sequels that were equal to or better than the first, every one I can think of has already been mentioned.

Generally, I don't like re-makes, and I agree with a few mentioned above as the worst ones ever: Deathwish, Robocop, Nightmare on Elm Street. Horrible. On the other hand, one I really enjoyed was Due Date (Robert Downey Jr., Zach Galifianakis) which is essentially a re-make of Planes, Trains and Automobiles (Steve Martin, John Candy). It had some truly hysterical scenes like when they get totally stoned while driving and Downey Jr. hallucinates Galifianakis as a dog. But it's hard to beat the Steve Martin car rental scene. youtube.com I read somewhere that the film received an "R" rating based solely on that one scene with all the repeated "fucks" over and over, but Hughes refused to alter it despite the rating. Now a more direct re-make is in the works with the same name "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" and will star Will Smith and Kevin Hart. We'll see how it turns out. I think it's easier to do a comedy re-make than action, drama or horror.

My 1st take here today was about sequels, but I wrote “remake” (dumb, dumb, dumb!).

Here are ones I can think of Rocky II The Empire Strikes Back Star Trek the Wrath of Kahn Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Which made up for the Temple of Doom Back to the Future Part III - Which made up for Part II The Dark Knight The Bourne Ultimatum and Bourne Supremency

Oh forgot Superman II

Rl27 listed trilogies where the third film was better than the 2nd, but neither was better than the first. I'm just saying that Last Crusade does not hold a candle to Lost Ark. BttF 3 also did not compare to the first. I'm also going to note that Crystal Skull wiped out any gains in movie props that Lucas and Spielberg could have gotten from Lost Ark. Just un-fucking-forgiveably awful. Worse than the Star Wars trilogy prequel. And then Lucas wants to whine that his Star Wars sequels would have been better than Disney's. Just take your millions and STFU.

Back to the Future II was great....I also enjoyed the newest Blade Runner. John Turturro’s recent attempt to do a sequel to the Big Lebowski was an absolute piece of garbage.