What a shame that this club could not make it.

Yeah - well-managed clubs that makes both custies and dancers wanna be there seem more the exception than the norm - it's frustrating, and to find good people to run these types of businesses is probably hard (and often times the owners are douchebags themselves).

I also think often times they are just solely focused on making $$$ and just focus on the short-term to the detriment of the long-term- not saying the focus shouldn't be to make $$$, but if you focus on the creating a good product vs w/e it takes to make the most $$$ the fastest, if you focus on creating a good product, the profits will usually follow and are often more sustainable - many of these people running clubs don't seem to know much about what a custy wants/needs and thus don't run clubs properly; it's like wanting to own a restaurant to make $$$ but you don't know much about food nor cooking - IMO, although I'm not a business-person, first thing is to make the dancers and custies happy (within reason), if that's in place, more likely it'll be a successful and sustainable club.

^ Well stated. I think you hit upon the single biggest (current) problem Strip Clubs have... which is: BRAIN.DEAD.MANAGEMENT Seriously, it's just amazing how SC Mgt takes idiocy & incompetence to a quantum level. A retarded bonobo with a lobotomy could run things better.

I could break the internet chronicling some specifics of asininity just from the New York/Massachusetts clubs... but what's the point? Management NEVER listens to their patrons nowadays... ever. I've actually reached out to the new owners of a place in Mass. to give them FREE CONSULTING ADVICE that would help their business tremendously... (did I mention I was offering value for FREE?)... crickets -- not so much as a "thanks but no thanks appreciate you taking the time to show an interest" email in return. Just a big ol FUKK U of indifference. This is what you got nowadays... BRAIN.FUCKING.DEAD.MANAGEMENT (This is the same club that when they took over late last year, promptly went to a TRANS-QUEER-ANYTHING GOES! model in the corn fields of bumfukk Mass. -- ya seriously can't make this shit up. Sheer exponential idiocy, as also reflected in the other clubs around there, different reasons). Bad news is... nothing's changing anytime soon.

it’s krazy they ignore the customers with good advice.

The second and last time I visited this club a couple of years back was a disappointing experience. Extremely loud music (had to scream to be able to hold a conversation), girls sitting by themselves despite the room being full, the girls that were walking around completely ignored me and my friend, and the other custies were more interested in conversing amongst their friends than the working girls on stage or around them. Nobody showed excitement when the DJ announced that they went from "25 to 30something girls" working that night.

Good response from Papi_Chulo......I was actually thinking about this similar topic a few weeks ago during the "Great Lockdown".

There is a city near me that had 3 HM SCs on the same road with 2 right across the street from each other. All 3 have shut down. I was thinking about this..........if I owned a SC........I know the goal is to make as much $$ operating your business..........BUT......for god sakes STOP charging the dancers a fee when they walk in the door.......STOP making the dancers pay a tip out fee...........you as the owner should just enjoy the Beautiful women that you hire and you get to talk to half naked beautiful women for 8 + hours a day instead of being stuck in an office behind a computer for 8+ hours.

Charge $5-$10 cover (not $20-$25 like some SCs I've been to). Cut out the DJ and just let the custies and dancers pick music.

I am sure I am missing some stuff but I just feel like if the SC owners didnt make the dancers pay so much more would stick around.

I imagine there are particular challenges to running a strip-club that most of us PLs are not purview to - but as a non-scientific rule-of-thumb, I often consider a well ran club as one:

• dancers seem happy to be there - any club can have some bad-attitude dancers, but if I see that most dancers have a sour-attitude like they hate being there and treat custies w/ a sour-attitudes, then I assume management/ownership is not treating them right/fairly for most/many of the dancers to be that way; and unhappy dancers will usually result in unhappy custies - well-managed clubs also seem to have a good # of dancers that have been there for a good while

• another rule-of-thumb for me of a well-managed club is a club I can spend multiple hours in and have a good time where time flies and I have very little if any unsavory moments

I don't expect a club to be perfect but my two points above I often use as a rule-of-thumb for considering a club to be well ran - as an example, the old Inner Room in Cocoa Beach consistently met the points I mentioned above.

In the city I live in, Indianapolis, I've seen bad management ruin several clubs but have almost never seen good management take a bad club and make it better. There aren't enough talented management people around here to make it happen. The one case where I saw a club improve, Babes, it seemed to be due to the manager being someone the dancers liked. One dancer told me he created more of a party atmosphere in the club. He didn't have a lot of petty little rules and basically let anyone do what they wanted as long they didn't hurt someone else. He was replaced by someone who was friends with the owner and the club quickly declined because she was way too strict, fired too many of the best dancers for minor rule infractions, and would be rude and unfriendly to people.

^ yeah - I used to hit a dive that had a similar issue - when a particular manager worked, most of the regular dancers were there, when the other manager worked many of the regular dancers were not there - and then the good manager was no longer (older gentleman whom I think passed); and they put a former dancer as manager and the drama began and dancers being fined or fired often; the vibe in the club def changed for the worse for both dancers and custies.

"So now its closed and a wonderful opportunity was pissed away."

What is it selling for?

===> "it’s krazy they ignore the customers with good advice."

That's because most customers' advice is crap, especially when it comes to theories about how things should be priced or how to manage dancer behavior at the club. What I was talking about, OTOH, is basic business 101 - let people know that you're there and don't abuse the people who make you money.

AlBundy... i totally agree.