THe Two Biggest Problems With Police In the US
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I don't think racism is one of them. It's unions and militarization. The guy that killed Floyd had 17 misconduct allegations against him and was never disciplined, no doubt because the police union protected him. Anyone can probably collect a few unfounded complaints over the years, but 17? I'm sure some or many were valid, but with no consequences, he was emboldened. He was bound to kill someone eventually. Then there's militarization. Police department have been flooded with excess military gear over the years, and all the cops now like to walk around in fatigues and tactical gear like they're some kind of commando or something. If they want to do that shit, they should join the Army and volunteer for special forces or something. Both of these things contribute to an us v. them attitude between the cops and the community they are supposed to be "protecting and serving." Police unions should be banned, and cops need to go back to being cops, not Rambo.
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As big of a man as Mr Floyd was I find it difficult, after hearing what was said on that tape, to think of Mr. Floyd as posing a threat to any of those police
Would anyone care?
Sideshow: I wouldn't give two shits if Floyd had been killed by just another thug. But he wasn't. He was killed by a thug wearing a police uniform. And we have this little thing in our country called the Constitution that says the government can't take your life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Having a thug wearing a police uniform crush your neck with his knee until you die is not due process of law. So I care. A lot.
25: Yes, the video was sad, pathetic, disgusting, and outrageous all at once.
First, here's a quote from the nightclub owner who employed him as off-duty police protection (from this CBS News article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-floy…)
"Santamaria said she had been paying Chauvin, when he was off-duty, to sit in his squad car outside El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years." Since when are cops allowed to use their squad cars, on their own personal time, to make extra money? Can a mailman take his truck home with him and make extra delivering packages around town? Aside from the obvious (vehicle wear and tear, cost of gas, etc.) wouldn't that be a liability risk for the Police Department if he were to have an accident? I'll bet one of two things... either it was A) a "perk" offered to appease the police union or B) he wasn't really "off-duty" but rather on the clock and earning some "double dip" income by sitting on his ass and occasionally helping to throw a drunk out of a bar.
Second, what kind of police officer with 19 years on the force, is still a uniformed beat cop driving around in a black-and-white squad car, who gets dispatched to deal with a guy passing a counterfeit $20 bill? One would think he might have risen a little higher up in the ranks after two decades. I started doing a little research and found out he had previously spent 8 years in the Army Reserve where he had similar career success. This quote from Stars and Strips: https://www.stripes.com/news/us/ex-minne…
"Chauvin enlisted in the Army Reserve in February 1996 and left in February 2004, about three years after he joined the Minneapolis Police Department, according to his military service record and a redacted copy of his police personnel file. He attained the rank of specialist in February 1998 and left the service at the same rank." Eight years and his big accomplishment was being promoted one step above a Private First Class, and then nothing for six years.
I haven't found anything about his official police officer rank, but it seems his career didn't go very far in 19 years. Will be interesting to see what other information comes out about this guy.
The Minneapolis Police Chief did a good thing today.... broke off contract talks with the Union. If the Union doesn't look at reform it wont do any good to try anything else.
Not even AQ and ISIL can take all of the blame, even before Newtown, Parkland, and Aurora you had Columbine and -far more significantly- the LA Bank of America shoot out. After all of that, and everything Obama brought on us with ISIS, there is a recognized need for police to retool to meet changes in the threat landscape.
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That describes me perfectly. However, I did watch a few reruns of Starsky and Hutch.
Gammanu what type of a turd are you anyway who the fuck are you even talking about, you should stick to what you know best, calling me and Nina porch monkeys you stupid bigoted fuck up
What a fuckn dumbass.
Just like when 25IQ's kid cousin got knocked on his ass in Buffalo, cops are going to return how you approach
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Where the fuck did that come from you bigoted turd burgular
Go back to what you know best calling folks porch monkeys
@skibum - you're a better, or at least more patient man than me if 38 years in you're still taking divorce cases. I've been transitioning myself out of that area, just run out of patience for people making decisions on emotion rather than logic.
Come to think of it, that seems to be happening a lot nowadays...
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But we all did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, right?
We just have to stop paying government jobs in general so much, that’s my beef with these unions. This country has too much in unfunded pension liabilities and unions are a big reason for it but that’s a whole other thing.
Most of them wouldn't qualify, and those who did would rapidly find out the military is a whole different story from the police. Much lower tolerance for war crimes like what we see police doing.
1. Physically, and psychologically, capable of doing violence
2. Highly disciplined and capable of controlling their potential for violence.
The left thinks the best cops, and military, are people incapable of doing violence. That’s what this defunding effort really has as its goal.
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Non-sociopaths think that murdering a restrained human-being pleading for his life is unacceptable. And this murder had racial overtones.
As usual, you're a nutcase.
Hell, it's hard for anyone to step out their house without breaking one of the million laws on the books.
Get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt or texting. Cop spots some weed on the seat. Past due warrants.
How about the draconian DUI laws. How about no proof restraining orders.
Once someone is in the "system" it's hard as hell to get out.
How f’ing stupid must you be to act like that and then blame the system for holding you down, making it too hard to know all the laws.
This is not hard, just grow the fuck up and act like an adult. You’ll then get adult privileges. SMH
Now with what Skibum stated about how cops get jaded. It is 100% correct and how that happens. It is why the Unions need to do more for them... give them support groups, give them education, etc. Also it is the Union's fault. Look into the Laws in MN. They pushed for these laws so it is hard to fire bad cops... same goes for bad teachers in the state. That is the Unions doing. The Police Chief even stated that he broke off talks with the Union and the new contract because even with evidence to fire a guy he cant because of the union and arbitration laws in MN.
Not testifying against another cop.
Sticking up for liars and thieves among them.
Some of the worst behavior I've ever seen, really, was a NYPD officer in a little neighborhood bar smoking and handing out free beers yelling at everyone. Sure, seems harmless, but apparently, the bartender told me, he does this every time he shows up and there's not a goddamned thing anyone there can do cause he's the untouchable (she can't charge for any of the beers, no one asked for them). And he was barely past rooky, no seniority whatsoever.
They demand loyalty no differently than any gang. The union is just an outreach of that.