Hopefully no US personnel was killed and it'll stay at that w/o a back-and-forth retaliation - but if Americans were killed, it may result in US retaliation
There's a lot to be said for not undertaking regime-change anywhere; but in the case of Iran I don't think the world can take the chance on them becoming a nuclear-power - they'd be the most-dangerous nuclear-power and I fear crazy-enough to use nuclear-weapons.
Iran is fucked. The ayatollah made a huge miscalculation. Two days before Soleimani was torched like a pile of leaves, he was saying Trump could do nothing to stop Iran. That statement did not age well.
In a naval or air war, Iran doesn't stand a chance. Just take out Iran's refineries (like Iran did to Saudi Arabia in mid-September), and their whole economy collapses. I hope Trump drops a few MOAB's on those goatfuckers for good measure.
There were no U.S. casualties, though some Iraqis are dead. it looks like they specifically avoided places where coalition forces were stationed, no doubt to avoid killing Americans and giving the U.S. an excuse to hit back hard.
Seems like the Iranians did this for their own public no casualties and a warning an hour or so before the attack, my guess is Iran is offering an off ramp and a way to deliver a message of deescalation let’s see what the future is before jumping all over ourselves
There’s also a plane crash in Tehran at about the same time as this attack. An awful lot of folks here need to think about this before commenting.
Trump has announced that Iran will be held directly responsible for the actions of the groups it funds and arms: Hamas, Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, Syrian militias, etc.
Going forward, if any of these groups harm US or Israeli interests, I think we’ll launch a limited attack on one of the 52 targets Trump has referenced. Kill a US soldier and we level one refinery. Blow up an Israeli school and we take out an Iranian barracks.
So much fake news and bad info in this thread. B-52s never launched. Incoming missiles were not shot down because the US has no anti-missile assets in the area. The missiles were launched at US bases. Launching ballistic missiles into a sovereign nation is not de-escalation.
I have to wonder if the Iranian missiles missed on purpose. Trump was clear that any harm to an American or damage to American property would be returned 100-fold on Iran. Iran had to do something to respond, but may have not have been foolish enough for the direct response to result in a catastrophe for themselves. No, it's the indirect response and proxies to watch out for, as usual.
It appears Iran gave a warning; fired missiles at relatively uninhabited desert bases; are selling it to their captive population as killing dozens and since no one was killed and we got the terrorist bastard, Trump can just walk away and will, untiltheir proxies do something. It is also interesting that they launched missiles, activated their air defenses and may have murdered 175 people by shooitng down a civilian airliner. More than 60 Brits died. Stay tuned.
Yeah those union workers cannot make a plane that can take a missile strike. Kind of funny Boeing planes only crash when foreigners are running things.
An engine fire in one engine is not enough to make it crash. Aircraft are certified to take off and fly on one engine. What usually happens is that the pilots get so wrapped up in problem with the engine that they forget to fly the airplane.
Esper is quite deadpan in style. But I noticed that when talking about the killing of Solimani, he did show emotion in his voice. Must have really wanted that guy dead.
If Trump lets Esper and Milley handle this, no problem.
If on the other hand Trump handles this, disaster. He will use it for self promotion.
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I assume US military bases?
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yes iraq/usa military bases
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No reports of causalities so far.
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Hopefully no US personnel was killed and it'll stay at that w/o a back-and-forth retaliation - but if Americans were killed, it may result in US retaliation
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There's a lot to be said for not undertaking regime-change anywhere; but in the case of Iran I don't think the world can take the chance on them becoming a nuclear-power - they'd be the most-dangerous nuclear-power and I fear crazy-enough to use nuclear-weapons.
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update: B52s have been launched from the Diego Garcia base in the Indian Ocean.
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Iran is fucked. The ayatollah made a huge miscalculation. Two days before Soleimani was torched like a pile of leaves, he was saying Trump could do nothing to stop Iran. That statement did not age well.
In a naval or air war, Iran doesn't stand a chance. Just take out Iran's refineries (like Iran did to Saudi Arabia in mid-September), and their whole economy collapses. I hope Trump drops a few MOAB's on those goatfuckers for good measure.
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Iran Panic : US Deploys 60 B-52 Bombers to Persian Gulf to Fight Against Iran
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We should send Juice in
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I guess it'll be another negative day for the stock-market tomorrow
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juice got the missles
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i havent heard of any injuries, maybe the missles missed target and went into the desert
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Missiles going where?
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-->"We should send Juice in"
Juice will fuck all their trannies and wipe his ass on the drapes. They will rue the day
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Former Navy SEAL lays out how U.S. could respond to Iran's missile attack
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^ that's what I"m talking about - let's hit'm hard!
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^ skid marks on their drapes!
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Juice and his army of trannies - they'll beg for peace
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Send Juice and his army in, followed by crazyjoe and his superbly-trained shitter-seals
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the juice missle attack ....no survivors
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crazyjoe and his seals w/ knock-out their national sewage system in under 10-hours
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Iran 'revenge' operation sees US bases attacked with 'ballistic missiles' | ABC News ( Australia ) still no casualty reports
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This is what’s going to happen to Iran if they keep throwing rocks at the hornets nest, they gonna get the Stunner
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There were no U.S. casualties, though some Iraqis are dead. it looks like they specifically avoided places where coalition forces were stationed, no doubt to avoid killing Americans and giving the U.S. an excuse to hit back hard.
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I hope Trump is not stupid enough to re-escalate things
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^ if there weren't US deaths
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I trust Mark Esper and Mark Milley to do what is best.
Of Trump, he is an absolute moron.
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your 100% right papi, call in the helicopter for last flights out of iraq, (just like the fall of saigon)
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@papi Trump is not as dumb as the msm makes him out to be, he must’ve had some legit intel.
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update: so far no american injuries, this is a good opportunity to get our troops out of there
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good work on that mute button bdirect
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my mute button is my best friend on this discussion board
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I don't believe any of our people were harmed from those attacks.
Iran needs to tread carefully because one wrong move and it'll be a catastrophe for them
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update: trump just twitted : trump said so far so good, our air defenses shot the incoming missles down
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^ good way for him to spin it 👍
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exactly. trump is the Commander in Twit
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Very serious topic, but many stupid or ignorant statements.
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i only mute the troll's comments
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Would be better to post threads like this here:
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One cruise missile into Iran's only gas refinery.
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Seems like the Iranians did this for their own public no casualties and a warning an hour or so before the attack, my guess is Iran is offering an off ramp and a way to deliver a message of deescalation let’s see what the future is before jumping all over ourselves
There’s also a plane crash in Tehran at about the same time as this attack. An awful lot of folks here need to think about this before commenting.
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Stock futures are positive. As far as investors are concerned, it’s a yawner.
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Trump has announced that Iran will be held directly responsible for the actions of the groups it funds and arms: Hamas, Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, Syrian militias, etc.
Going forward, if any of these groups harm US or Israeli interests, I think we’ll launch a limited attack on one of the 52 targets Trump has referenced. Kill a US soldier and we level one refinery. Blow up an Israeli school and we take out an Iranian barracks.
That’s called behavioral conditioning.
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So much fake news and bad info in this thread. B-52s never launched. Incoming missiles were not shot down because the US has no anti-missile assets in the area. The missiles were launched at US bases. Launching ballistic missiles into a sovereign nation is not de-escalation.
I have to wonder if the Iranian missiles missed on purpose. Trump was clear that any harm to an American or damage to American property would be returned 100-fold on Iran. Iran had to do something to respond, but may have not have been foolish enough for the direct response to result in a catastrophe for themselves. No, it's the indirect response and proxies to watch out for, as usual.
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It appears Iran gave a warning; fired missiles at relatively uninhabited desert bases; are selling it to their captive population as killing dozens and since no one was killed and we got the terrorist bastard, Trump can just walk away and will, untiltheir proxies do something. It is also interesting that they launched missiles, activated their air defenses and may have murdered 175 people by shooitng down a civilian airliner. More than 60 Brits died. Stay tuned.
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another horrible the boeing 737 crash, no survivors.. scary
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Yeah those union workers cannot make a plane that can take a missile strike. Kind of funny Boeing planes only crash when foreigners are running things.
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An engine fire in one engine is not enough to make it crash. Aircraft are certified to take off and fly on one engine. What usually happens is that the pilots get so wrapped up in problem with the engine that they forget to fly the airplane.
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Only thing I could find about the B52's being flow there is this:
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So I still see it as unconfirmed.
And all officials still say no casualities from the 22 Iranian ballistic missiles.
And we have this from yesterday:
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Esper is quite deadpan in style. But I noticed that when talking about the killing of Solimani, he did show emotion in his voice. Must have really wanted that guy dead.
If Trump lets Esper and Milley handle this, no problem.
If on the other hand Trump handles this, disaster. He will use it for self promotion.
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News Hour, Trump is saying that Iran is backing down.
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