OT: Computer Programming
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Computer Programming, Closed
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Apache Hadoop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Had…
Apache Kafka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Kaf…
Anyone use these, have experience with or opinions about them
SJG
Computer Programming, Closed
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…
Apache Hadoop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Had…
Apache Kafka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Kaf…
Anyone use these, have experience with or opinions about them
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What does Nginx do, and why do you like it over the above two?
Thanks,
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FRMOS with great multithreaded, ULL cache targetting, avx512 optimized code makes things fast.
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by Anthony Rudd
Introducing Regular Expressions 1st Edition
by Michael Fitzgerald (Author)
Learning Ruby: The Language that Powers Rails 1st Edition
by Michael James Fitzgerald
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http://iolanguage.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_(progra…
Practical Haskell : a real world guide to programming / Alejandro Serrano Mena. (2019)
Game Development with GameMaker 2 Studio 2 : make your own games with gamemaker language. (2019)
The Rust programming language / by Steve Klabnik and Carol Nichols ; with contributions from the Rust Community. (2019)
The audio programming book / edited by Richard Boulanger and Victor Lazzarini ; foreword by Max V. Mathews. (2011)
On Git Hub
https://github.com/IoLanguage/io
https://github.com/IoLanguage/io
From Simple IO to Monad Transformers
by J Adrian Zimmer (Author)
This is a short ebook written for Haskell programmers who wish to become comfortable with the concept of monad. It is formatted for reading on small or large screens. The author is a math Ph.D. with decades of experience teaching abstract concepts to beginners, including teenagers.
The Io Programming Language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2KtYbNz…
http://peru
gini.cps.udayton.edu/teaching/courses/Sp…
Machine Learning with R: Expert techniques for predictive modeling, 3rd Edition Paperback – April 15, 2019
by Brett Lantz
wiki guide to Io
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Io_Program…
Ozone, intro to Io
https://ozone.wordpress.com/2006/03/15/b…
The AWK Programming Language 1st Edition
by
Alfred V. Aho (Author),
Brian W. Kernighan (Author), Peter J. Weinberger (Author)
Concepts of Programming Languages (10th Edition) 10th Edition
by Robert W. Sebesta
Coral Dev Board I/O Programming Using Python Kindle Edition
by Agus Kurniawan
Io language was created by Steve Dekorte in 2002
http://dekorte.com/
Lots of online info, and Io looks extremely interesting. To me it looks like Forth, as well as SmallTalk.
But zero books I can find about it!
SJG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_(progra…
https://web.archive.org/web/201107161757…
http://atonie.org/2008/01/io-getting-sta…
https://web.archive.org/web/201107161809…
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http://dekorte.com/
Not finding books about Io, so here is an online intro
http://iolanguage.org/guide/guide.html
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TJ Street
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Not interested in it for general purpose, but for some small embedded applications, and maybe running with no operating system underneath.
They say it is like SmallTalk, fine. Or I see it as also like Oberon. But I also see it as the new Forth.
And of course I want to add complied C++ to its interpreter, not just write in its interpretive stuff. And highly object oriented is ideal.
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Joe Bonamassa Official - "Midnight Blues" - Beacon Theatre Live From New York
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Pro MERN Stack
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-MERN-Stack-De…
Advanced Malware Analysis
https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Malware-…
Introducing Python
https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Pytho…
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What processors, what compilers?
Cross compilers?
Download and then use make to compile Io (its interpreter and runtime stuff)
http://iolanguage.org/guide/guide.html#I…
Here is source code, on GitHub ( I think run by Google )
https://github.com/IoLanguage/io
Linux Build Instructions
https://github.com/IoLanguage/io#linux-b…
Everything for this must be GNU, and they want on Windows for you to build using Cygwin
http://www.cygwin.com/
But can you cross compile? Mostly I want to use Io on ARM processors. But I will not want to compile it there, want to compile on a PC, probably using Linux.
Io links
http://iolanguage.org/links.html
GNU C complier ( GCC )
https://gcc.gnu.org/
GCC 7.5 released [2019-11-14]
GCC 9.2 (changes)
Status: 2020-02-28 (regression fixes & docs only).
Serious regressions. All regressions.
Says these are the GNU GCC targets
https://gcc.gnu.org/install/specific.htm…
so for example:
aarch64*-*-*
https://gcc.gnu.org/install/specific.htm…
Talk about some corrective for Cortex-A53
Special stuff about MS-DOS
DOS
Please have a look at the binaries page.
You cannot install GCC by itself on MSDOS; it will not compile under any MSDOS compiler except itself. You need to get the complete compilation package DJGPP, which includes binaries as well as sources, and includes all the necessary compilation tools and libraries.
All the GNU complier manuals
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/
GNU Fortran Manual
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
Talks about Fortran 2003, 2008, and 2018 !!
So this is the manual for all of the GCC compilers ( G Compiler Collection )
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
for example, special options for the BlackFin processors, I guess on all GCC compliers:
Specifies the name of the target Blackfin processor. Currently, cpu can be one of ‘bf512’, ‘bf514’, ‘bf516’, ‘bf518’, ‘bf522’, ‘bf523’, ‘bf524’, ‘bf525’, ‘bf526’, ‘bf527’, ‘bf531’, ‘bf532’, ‘bf533’, ‘bf534’, ‘bf536’, ‘bf537’, ‘bf538’, ‘bf539’, ‘bf542’, ‘bf544’, ‘bf547’, ‘bf548’, ‘bf549’, ‘bf542m’, ‘bf544m’, ‘bf547m’, ‘bf548m’, ‘bf549m’, ‘bf561’, ‘bf592’.
Blackfin processors could be very useful, for some stuff:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfin
Offical Blackfin, lots of part numbers, with datasheets
https://www.analog.com/en/products/proce…
Sometimes you have to accept single source solutions. But I would be concerned that this Blackfin unnecessarily could get you into a single source solution.
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https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
This is 68000 and Coldfire options
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
More about AArch64
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
Special options for AMD GCN, like for PC Gaming, great images
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/gcn
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
Extensions to C language
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
Extensions to C++ language
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
talks about HSA language and D language, also Go language and G++.
From all of this I see that C/C++ is heavily used, as is Fortran. But Pascal does not exist. And Ada is really very secondary.
Compiling C++
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
C compiler options summary
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
I am getting the impression that cross compilation options are just built in. If you can get the compiler running on your machine, then you can compile for any of the vast array of supported processors.
This is 1 million times better than how it would be on commerical proprietary software development tools!
No I am not suggesting that this is easy. I know that it is not. But at least the people driving it are thinking the right way!
SJG
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
Some targets have 128 bit integers
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
Some support for Complex numbers.
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
That might be done in a manner which is not useful.
Says their is some float128 !! Not sure how this really plays out though.
__float128 is available on i386, x86_64, IA-64, and hppa HP-UX, as well as on PowerPC GNU/Linux targets that enable the vector scalar (VSX) instruction set. __float128 supports the 128-bit floating type. On i386, x86_64, PowerPC, and IA-64 other than HP-UX, __float128 is an alias for _Float128. On hppa and IA-64 HP-UX, __float128 is an alias for long double.
__float80 is available on the i386, x86_64, and IA-64 targets, and supports the 80-bit (XFmode) floating type. It is an alias for the type name _Float64x on these targets.
__ibm128 is available on PowerPC targets, and provides access to the IBM extended double format which is the current format used for long double. When long double transitions to __float128 on PowerPC in the future, __ibm128 will remain for use in conversions between the two types.
Power PC does also involve IBM.
Look at this chip package:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c…
PowerPC list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Po…
Special ARM options
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https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
talks about ASM relations
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
Still taking effort to make progress in learning about this.
Enumerator Attributes
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
^^^^ I don't think that is a good thing to do. Microsoft pushes this, came from them.
So try to get back to linking issues:
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-9.2.0…
Looking for overlay capabilities in linker. Not seeing it.
Starting at the top again:
https://gcc.gnu.org/
GNU origins and operating system
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.htm…
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/8.4.0/
look at this, quad precision math library?
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-8.4.0…
Quad precision, meaning 4 times 4 bytes, 16 bytes, 128 bits?
But this is in software. Still useful. About 33 decimal digits precision, plus the exponent.
Suggests that one way or another, there will be the needed hardware.
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Led Zeppelin – No Quarter [1975/05/24 @ London, England] Earl's Court Extended Version, I could listen to this until the vinyl wears out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xcOZgho…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Debugg…
Moe, text editor, 8 bits
https://www.gnu.org/software/moe/
can download from here:
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/moe/
They have this NANO editor too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_nano
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linker_(co…
Well they talk about Dynamic Linking, but they fail to talk about the importance of this in these interpretive langauges, being able to expand them.
They don't even talk about doing overlay linking, except for one thing. IBM 360 has more data in the output file, so you can remove some stuff from a linked program, and then put other stuff in, without have to recreate all the object files.
This, ld, should be the GNU linker manual
https://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/ld/…
And then here, talked about with Linux
https://linux.die.net/man/1/ld
There is stuff about dynamic linking. Maybe they let you tell the machine how to do Virtual Memory swaps. That would be good, but still cannot really see that for sure.
Not sure what this is:
https://linux.die.net/man/5/slapo-retcod…
Unix is multi-user and it has Virtual Memory, so it is going to be more complex.
UK based, FreeRTOS, looks good, scalable
https://freertos.org/
Kernel
https://freertos.org/FreeRTOS-quick-star…
Real-time embedded components and systems : with Linux and RTOS / Sam Siewart, John Pratt. (2016)
Making embedded systems : [design patterns for great software] / Elecia White (2012)
Building embedded Linux systems / Karim Yaghmour (2008)
Embedded Linux system design and development / P. Raghavan, Amol Lad, Sriram Neelakandan (2006)
Open-source robotics and process control cookbook : designing and building robust, dependable real-time systems / by Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (2005)
Embedded system design / by Peter Marwedel (2003)
The art of programming embedded systems / Jack G. Ganssle (1992)
Another book, back early 90's, which I cannot now find.
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Linux Journal
https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/646…
Ian Lance Taylor
https://www.airs.com/blog/archives/38
^^^^ 20 parts
https://www.airs.com/blog/index.php?s=li…
Should take the time to read this carefully.
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Introduction to artificial intelligence / Philip C. Jackson, Jr. (2019)
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TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3560
Introduction to artificial intelligence / Philip C. Jackson, Jr. (2019)
Clean Ruby : a guide to crafting better code for Rubyists / Carleton DiLeo (2019)
Computational thinking / Peter J. Denning and Matti Tedre. (2019)
C++ templates : the complete guide / David Vandevoorde, Nicolai M. Josuttus, Douglas Gregor (2019)
788 pages
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This is why I also need my Organization. It will serve as a Think Tank with lots of sections, to help in reading lots of books, and as a repository of all different types of expertise.
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Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - I Won't Back Down - 10/2/1994 - Shoreline Amphitheatre (Official)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoqLq7Ze…
https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/libraries/
Ruby Gems
https://rubygems.org/
https://rubygems.org/gems/Complexify
https://github.com/Amoralyn/Complexify
https://www.rubydoc.info/gems/Complexify…
Ruby Programming
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184184541059
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Devadip Carlos Santana & Turiya Alice Coltrane - Illuminations (1974 - Album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3zbut6…
10", strapped on, 5 colors
https://pleasershoes.com/collections/ple…
TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1132
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=2305
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3560
https://tuscl.net/photos/5d699507cd73c
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1061
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=3513
Gerry Mulligan - Night Lights (1963)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5PG7aRY…
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Eric Clapton Layla 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbceFpLY…
crosby stills nash young almost cut my hair CSNY 1974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVsbqVJL…
TJ Street
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1132
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=2305
Pleaser 10"
https://pleasershoes.com/collections/ple…
https://pleasershoes.com/products/beyond…
Author is of quite some renown.
Must have libraries for Python:
PyAudio -
PyQtGraph -
TkInter - GUI
PrettyTable -
SQLAlchemy -
Toolz - lots of stuff good for Functional Programming
ClouderaOryx - Machine learning for Apache Hadoop
funcy - all stuff inspired by Clojure, for doing functional programming
SciPy - all stuff for scientific computing
XGBoost - Gradient Boosting Machine, for Python, R, Java, C++
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https://www.amazon.com/John-Paul-Mueller…
Machine learning for dummies / by John Paul Mueller and Luca Massaron.
Yes readily available
Anaconda, and IDE for doing Python data science work.
https://www.anaconda.com/
But except for the individual edition, it is not free.
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Haskell Regular Expressions
https://wiki.haskell.org/Regular_express…
This is the package Mueller says to use for Haskell
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/rege…
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https://www.amazon.com/Functional-Progra…
Mostly this is due to the Standard Template Library. And in my view, this is the right way.
Now C++ is not interpretive. Some things really do need an interpretive language. But in my view the popularity of many of these interpretive languages is not based on solving real issues, it is based on specious reasons for making the choice.
Interested to know what you think.
SJG
https://www.regular-expressions.info/
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https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1793
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1795
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=1794
https://numpy.org/
Mueller Lists Programming Paradigms
Imperative
Procedural
Object-Oriented
Declarative
and the Functional Programming is built upon Declarative Programming.
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When Threads Unravel
by Paul Butcher
The Pragmatic Programmers ( This publisher and this series are always really good )
https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Concurrency…
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You can write it all yourself, or you can use library modules to do all of these things. But that still gives you a great deal more ability to tailor the result to your actual need than you would get from using Clojure, Scala, Lisp, Scheme, Prolog, Erlang, or Elixir.
I read all the discussions and examples and I can relate it to things I was responsible for decades ago. The concepts involved are very important. But I still see most of these new languages as gimmicks.
And then you have books like:
https://www.amazon.com/Clojure-Brave-Tru…
Totally disingenuous. They say you can do this and this and this. But they forget to tell you that the reason this is so is simply that others have already written the code to do these things and this is what is inside of Clojure. For a real world application much more is expected of the people responsible for it.
And then there is the loss of control of how it works via the Java Virtual Machine. Can't do stuff that way, not acceptable. If things are to be farmed out to multiple CPU's, you need to decide when and how this will be happening.
Good to see you here SanchoRG.
SJG
Buddy Guy - Knock on Wood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpa6nvfx…
Here is one:
https://www.actor-framework.org/
SJG
When Threads Unravel
by Paul Butcher
Yes, so he talks about threads and locks.
He talks about Functional Programming, but out of its original context of Artificial Intelligence, in the context of Concurrency. And the central thing seems to be immutable variables.
My view is that you can make things to do this in any Object Oriented language, if you wish to.
He talks about Clojure and a lot of the concepts which underly it.
He talks about Actors, which in my view is a phenomenal way to go. He explains that it does not depend on immutable state variables, just on keeping them private.
Now he does his examples in Elixir. But remember that Elixir runs on their BEAM operating system. While I respect the great things which have been done with Elixir, I still do not think it hte best available way.
The he talks about CSP, Communicating Sequential Processes, the language Go, and a new library for Clojure. Not really impressive to me.
Then he gets into Data Parallelism and GPU ( Graphics Processing Units )
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL#:~:….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL
This I go along with whole heartedly.
Talks about GPU in a laptop. Well I'm not so interested in that in a laptop or desktop, but rather in the servers used for production environments.
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!!!!
https://www.khronos.org/
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Good Math by Mark C. Chu-Carroll
https://www.amazon.com/Good-Math-Computa…
Seven Web Frameworks in Seven Weeks
https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Web-Framewo…
https://www.amazon.com/Seven-More-Langua…
and then Nathan Marz
https://www.amazon.com/Big-Data-Principl…
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Deep Purple - New York 1973 - Full Concert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1En47iPE…
Title Exercises in programming style / Cristina Videira Lopes
Imprint Boca Raton : CRC Press, 2021
CRC Press is always no nonsense.
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Plus Size
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Plus Size
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Title Exercises in programming style / Cristina Videira Lopes
Imprint Boca Raton : CRC Press, 2021
This is an unusual and uncommonly abstract book. Shows the history of programming paradigms, with examples written in Python and detailed commentary. At this time I don't need to spend much time with this.
SJG
Yazidi and Esoteric Islam matters
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6747…
Boob Out
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6747…
Functional Programming for Dummies
John Paul Mueller
using Python and Haskell
https://www.amazon.com/Functional-Progra…
+
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https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/phil…
Haskell Brooks Curry (1900-1982)
https://iep.utm.edu/curry/
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https://www.rabbitmq.com/
Environment Interface Standard, EIS
https://github.com/eishub/eis
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Computer coding once had much better gender balance than it does today. What went wrong?
Did stripping pay more?
I have not read this but I want to. I know that it talks about a great deal of sexism in work places. I am not surprised that they are seeing this.
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/lean-out-t…
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Other accounts of men being interviewed for a position and being unwilling to talk with female interviewers, staying silent until they can present him with a male.
These guys do this even though the women are the hiring manager and the company founder.
Okay, but I listen to this and I listen to some of what Shevinsky says and I see these as only quasi-technical positions. They pertain more to consumer marketing and canned programming environments, and so the men don't want to be cast into that role, a role they see as more suitable for women.
But I also know that there are many men who don't know the difference and who could only function in that kind of a realm themselves.
This is why I want to read Shevinsky and a lot of other related things which are coming.
Shevinsky just made a video on the Google Campus where she was walking down their halways and through their doorways, and she was noting that they could have offered her a job if they wanted to, but they didn't. I found her position to be a bit much. But still I want to read and understand before I take a position.
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Why 'Sports Illustrated Swimsuit' will only work with brands that 'prove they are creating change for women'
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/sports-i…
Weather Report - Live at Montreux (1976) [Remastered]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvfXA2S…
My view is still that it is better to learn from and understand these langauges, but not to use them. Don't want to use their BONE virtual machine, can't write everything their way.
Instead put the time in and make a nice C++ class library, accessible through C/C++, R, Python, or Ruby. Use this for you Imperative Programming. And it is inside of the mechanics of your class library that your multiprocessing and hot swap capabilities reside.
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