Bugatti
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Tuesday, September 3, 2019 4:39 PM
So “modified” Bugatti Chiron hit 304 mph on a test track. I heard one announcer say they needed tires built for that speed. I wonder what other changes were made. The off-the-shelf version of this car puts out 1000 hp. I suppose they would need different gearing ( transmission and transaxle?). Anyone want one?
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From having written simulation programs for these issues. It is very hard to design anything like an automobile which can have the tractive force be equal to the force of air drag at those speeds.
It does not matter how much engine power you have, the force of the air drag is just too much.
So if you can do it, that does not mean that you have much control.
If you want to go at speeds even approaching that, better to have an airplane, as that is controlled by air surfaces, and in all three rotation axes.
SJG
No, it is not. The control force exerted by the tires is just barely equal to the force of the air drag.
Want to go 300mph? It doesn't take 1500 mph and the associated fuel consumption. It only takes 300hp, like the engine from a Cherokee 6. Hartzell 3 blade variable pitch propeller generates thrust in excess of the aerobatic loading weight. Verticle 8's, speed well in excess of 30mph.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplK5ZoU…
SJG
B52's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emzk9bJJ…
SJG
Any upset, and that is no longer true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoddard-H…
This originally was coming from Twin Commander, then bought by Piper. Seats 6.
2x 350 HP engines. But this is just half of the fuel consumption of that Bugatti.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Aero…
And it is pressurized, so you don't have to use oxygen to get at high speed altitudes.
https://www.flyingmag.com/pilot-reports/…
SJG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-3…
2x 160hp, not pressurized, later versions counter rotating ( opposite of P-38 )
also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-2…
4 seat version, 185mph cruise.
https://www.aopa.org/go-fly/aircraft-and…
Notice that the one in this picture is not counter rotating. Combination of this and poor training methods had made light twins have a much higher fatality rate. Problem seems to be solved, but they do use more fuel.
https://www.piperflyer.org/catagories/it…
SJG
Twin turbo must be very expensive. I think there are muliple firms doing this too.
https://twincommander.com/
Just look at this version, 960A
https://twincommander.com/models/ac690a/
Honeywell engines. Max cruise 328mph.
For long range they want you to be at 31,000 ft.
Still under 12,000 gross to stay within light aircraft classification. But today insurance companies will still want something akin to type certification.
I would think these are pressurized, but I am not seeing that.
SJG
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-4…
Seeming alteration of Cheyenne from piston to turbo prop!
$3.8 Meg, today!
Some as high as $17 Meg today
close to 300mph, maybe 8 to 10 seats?
Lots of versions.
Development totally unrelated to Aerostar.
SJG
Piston engine version, 2x 310 HP turbos, lycoming 540 cid.
SJG
Very rarely am I envious of things people post, but I was of this.
Start with this, C90gtx
https://beechcraft.txtav.com/en/king-air…
maximum cruise speed 272 ktas = 313.01201 miles per hour
2x 550 shaft hp.
Must be very expensive!
SJG
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SJG
SJG
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The first page of The Front Room features a multitude of discussions created by you and in which you are the only poster.
SJG
https://beechcraft.txtav.com/en/king-air…
And this is the extended range version:
max range 2,692 nm = 3098 statue miles
SJG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier…
https://www.bombardier.com/en/aviation.h…
Bombardier Q400, look at the 6 blade props.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel…
WIKI, 5000 shaft hp per engine, but 7000hp for short term, like engine out.
Typical cruise 414 mph.
Have no idea of the cost, would want extender tanks for long range.
SJG
67,000 lbs gross take off weight. ( B-17 36,000lbs B-29 120,000 747 about 810,000 lbs, A380 about 50% more. )
Range not great, but could have extender tanks some how.
Want $32.2 Meg 2017
SJG
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https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/civ…
3 jet engines. Not sure how practical this is. They say the rules are looser for crossing water with 3 instead of 2 engines. But most airliners today, larger than this, use two engines.
6,450 nm = 7422 statute miles.
Range @ .80 Mach cruise
(8 pax, 3 crew, NBAA IFR reserves)
6,450 nm / 11,945 km
Max speed is mach 0.9 ( don't think many civil transportation jets can go this fast )
LA to Tokyo = 5483 statute miles
NYC to Paris = 3628 statute miles
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_F…
https://www.dassaultfalcon.com/en/Aircra…
Not seeing any costs.
SJG