She's a friend of a friend, we were introduced and just really hit it off. Started out texting and video chatting, then meeting up, I'd visit, she'd visit... and then we realized we really like each other and decided to give it a shot.
I saw her at work a few times but she gets nervous dancing around me. So we just chat a bit, have some drinks... then I leave and let her work.
We really ended up together by accident, just really connected on a lot of levels. It wasn't planned... I don't believe in long distance relationships. But it happened.
Yeah she wears makeup when we go out. She's into all that.
But even picking up strippers from clubs in Vegas is pretty easy. Its not what a lot of guys make it out to be.
CMI, funny how its so unfathomable for you to comprehend that the bitches you have to pay, are really easy if they actually like you. That's what hits a nerve with you....
eh, usually the general look a vegas escort, stripper, etc, is stick figure scrawny, blonde with a trapazoid shaped face. And a helluva lot of make up. Why do they all look the same? Especially at the casino.
That's the look most white guys go for.... a lot of the clubs want that look for that reason. But my main bitch isn't like that... slim thick, nice tits, long black hair....
You high five each other when one of you pays a hooker to fuck them and brags about it, but attack me and troll me when I actually cuff a stripper hoe LMFAO
Icey, glad things are going well for you with your new GF. Any ideas where you want the relationship to go, and of how well you think the long distance relationship can work?
SJG, I want it to get serious... That's the goal with any relationship I have. The distance isn't too bad, she's only like 6 hours away at most. I think a key is to not think about why something can't work or what the pitfalls are and instead focus on the moment and take it in the direction I'd like to see it in. So far its going really well.
Truth is, any relationship can fail no matter how great it is, my last one taught me that. But you have to have a basic level of trust and motivation to make it work.
LMFAO IceyDodo can't fathom his own delusion that he's not P4P but yet he's posted all this about "dating" stripper whores (LULZ!):
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
SJG, I use the term loosely but she has admitted to having done extras and having sugar daddies....I think the fact that she can be open with me about it is a good start. Although of course its not something I wanted to hear... but I kinda think how different is it from being with a girl who just has a past of sleeping around. I don't think its something to judge her on. Mostly because I know why she did it. Ironically, as into money as she is, she's the cheapest girl I've been with. I don't think I've spent more than $100 going out with her. Usually we spend around $40 or so...
"I use the term loosely but she has admitted to having done extras and having sugar daddies....I think the fact that she can be open with me about it is a good start. Although of course its not something I wanted to hear... but I kinda think how different is it from being with a girl who just has a past of sleeping around. I don't think its something to judge her on. Mostly because I know why she did it. Ironically, as into money as she is, she's the cheapest girl I've been with. I don't think I've spent more than $100 going out with her. Usually we spend around $40 or so..."
LMFAO she's a whore. By doing extras and sugaring she exchanges acts of sex for money.
You are outright admitting it here. Luckily with you she's a cheap whore, making you a cheap trick.
LMFAO that you still try to deny you're not in a P4P GFE situation. And you act as if you're somehow different than a trick.
And you question how you can be delusional about it all.
LMFAO she's only a "holy grail" because she gives you the GFE you are so needy for.
Just coz you can't relate to my experiences doesn't make them fictitious. Maybe you should have less of a myopic view of the world....get out a little bit.
^ Who the hell would relate to your experiences, they're all in your head, what we're telling you is we reject, what you are saying by a very large margin, the only one who relates to you is another deluded poster who also has experiences that exist solely in his head. Of course your experiences are fictitious, they are just copied from My Life as a Pimp, by Iceberg Slim, and other novels.
^Diaper rash is mostly in your head dude, between you and loco there is hardly enough brainpower to blow your nose's if you both try at the same time lol.
I can totally relate that IceyDodo embellishes her ways of P4P GFE with stripper whores. Even if it is true IRL that she has an actual stripper whore "GF", I'm just saying the reality is pretty pathetic when she's admitted to using money and drugs as her way of establishing that relationship.
So no, IceyDodo, it's your hypocrisy and inability to admit that what you describe is just like being a PAYING TRICK BITCH that is the issue. LMFAO that you assume others can't relate to your perspective. Again you just distort and embellish it all, assuming it is even true.
25, I feel sorry for you if you are like this in person. Not everyone is like you. Dismissing others' experiences coz they differ from your own is very infantile and closed minded. You throw tantrums coz you can't fathom someone dating stripper hoes. lulz
LMFAO IceyDodo can't fathom his own delusion that he's not P4P but yet he's posted all this about "dating" stripper whores (LULZ!):
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
Wow that's deep. Go for girls that tend to like you and they just might like you. Find a girl you can connect with and you may be able to connect with her. Who woulda thunk?
Your point is so painfully obvious it doesn't need to be pointed out. It's referred to as common sense.
Besides the fact that you are still paying your stripper whore for GFE and are delusional that she's "going for" you other than providing a service.
If you can't get a real civie girl just as hot doing the same EXACT things as you do to get a stripper whore just as hot, then you're just an RIL trick bitch to the stripper whore in denial.
LMFAO all the things you preach about "dating" stripper whores are either painfully obvious or simply part of the P4P business.
LMFAO IceyDodo can't fathom his own delusion that he's not P4P but yet he's posted all this about "dating" stripper whores (LULZ!):
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
@Subra It's hilarious that IceyDodo can't just state the things she does with stripper whores without making a point to contrast herself with how she assumes others would do it. For example she posted this:
"But even picking up strippers from clubs in Vegas is pretty easy. Its not what a lot of guys make it out to be."
Note the phrase "Its not what a lot of guys make it out to be."
^ LMFAO who has made any statement besides herself that guys think it is hard to get GFE from a Vegas stripper whore? Answer: Nobody except IceyDodo!
Another example:
"Its a much better accomplishment than what you guys brag about....... scoring with hookers ROTFLMFAO"
^ LMAO I don't read many brag posts besides this one regarding scoring with a hooker.
IceyDodo clearly needs to contrast herself as much as possible from a trick. LMFAO it's as if she wants to stay in a fantasy that she's not.
"You high five each other when one of you pays a hooker to fuck them and brags about it, but attack me and troll me when I actually cuff a stripper hoe LMFAO"
^ LMFAO another example. I've never high fived anyone here for paying a hooker to fuck them. And I don't read many posts by others doing that as well
But for sure I read many posts by IceyDodo that are brag posts about GFE from stripper whores and at the same time telling others doing the same thing they are being tricks.
Which is all why she's a hypocritical trick bitch.
like I said nobody is high fiving anyone except IceyDodo high fiving herself for getting GFE from a stripper whore and pretending it's the same thing as a civie relationship rotflmao
It's hilarious that IceyDodo can't just state the things she does with stripper whores without making a point to contrast herself with how she assumes others would do it.
LOL I'm just commenting on her delivery and embellishments moreso than the validity of them. And it's based on the premise of being "true" only for purposes of highlighting the blatant contradictions.
For example she says she's not paying for GFE but yet she admits to paying stripper whores both money and drugs. Whether or not she actually is doing this IRL is less of my point than her actual statements being contradictory.
The only time I've ever high fived another TUSCLer is if they had a great time LDKing with a hot stripper. It's because I can relate to it.
And putting down folks for doing things with strippers that one doesn't do themself is just trolling, pure and simple. This is what I see IceyDodo do much more than anyone with the exception of san_jose_creep.
@twentyfive and @Ishmael and if you can take the leap of faith and see IceyDodo as the actual person as her persona, it's actually more pathetic than being an impersonating troll. Think about it...
The only way he can get a relationship is through paying and giving drugs to stripper whores. He can't even conceive of how to go about having a true relationship with a civie woman and pursue a stripper whore through those methods. His "methods" require so many things that are already a part of being a PL/trick and the business of stripping, including the shady parts, that he doesn't even know anything different.
For example he has equated giving a stripper whore money to get her nails done as something common to what normal guys do with a civie girl. I don't know about anyone else but I've had a few hot girlfriends and my wife is hot but I've never doled out money for them to do anything like that. He thinks this is normal. Most normal BF-GF relationships aren't based on doling out cash and drugs.
Then he's been saying to be dominant over them because that's what women want. That's so untrue from a universal standpoint. A lot of civie women just want a balanced relationship and sure maybe in bed they like to be submissive but not always.
Imagine all the things he recommends doing to be tried on civie girls, including strippers that want a civie relationship - they would fail in epic proportions.
And he doesn't even realize any of this. It's sad and pathetic.
So whether a troll persona or real person with the personality of said persona, she's a pathetic one.
"funny how its so unfathomable for you to comprehend that the bitches you have to pay, are really easy if they actually like you"
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
^ LMFAO IceyDodo can't even fathom that she admits to paying for GFE from a stripper whore at the same time accusing others for paying a stripper whore for sex.
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It was actually pretty easy though...just came naturally
Want to tell us the blow by blow, how the encounter started, first DFK, first FS, first TLN?
SJG
I saw her at work a few times but she gets nervous dancing around me. So we just chat a bit, have some drinks... then I leave and let her work.
Yes, staying away from her club and letting her work is a good idea.
But does she like to put on makeup on her days off?
SJG
Yeah she wears makeup when we go out. She's into all that.
But even picking up strippers from clubs in Vegas is pretty easy. Its not what a lot of guys make it out to be.
But generally relationships are hard. And if she is basically as you say a "hoe", then that is going to make it harder in my opinion.
One of the main reasons for my organization is to change the situation in relationships.
SJG
You know what I did tonight? I fought off a pack of velociraptors while riding a rainbow unicorn that shoots laser beams out of its eyes.
You know what both of our stories have in common? They are equally verifiable on an anonymous strip club discussion board.
The point is that it's an anonymous forum. All forms of bragging are equally unverifiable and baseless. It's a pointless exercise.
Except to reinforce your troll persona for... whatever reason.
OMG that’s sooo cool 🦄🦖🤗
Try to keep up icey. I'm starting to wonder if you're cut out for the Winning Team
Sounds like a typical day in RIL PL land. Nothing to brag about when you pay for GFE. Especially in Vegas where GFE hookers are a dime a dozen.
SJG
SJG
Truth is, any relationship can fail no matter how great it is, my last one taught me that. But you have to have a basic level of trust and motivation to make it work.
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
@Icey what do u think
LOL you are a serious attention whore.
SJG
Which doesn't exist except in your own mind.
SJG, I use the term loosely but she has admitted to having done extras and having sugar daddies....I think the fact that she can be open with me about it is a good start. Although of course its not something I wanted to hear... but I kinda think how different is it from being with a girl who just has a past of sleeping around. I don't think its something to judge her on. Mostly because I know why she did it. Ironically, as into money as she is, she's the cheapest girl I've been with. I don't think I've spent more than $100 going out with her. Usually we spend around $40 or so...
^ LMFAO a past quote from IceyDodo. Master Sugar "Daddy" that's all about P4P GFE with stripper whores
^ LMFAO another recent quote from IceyDodo about Vegas stripper whores.
But if course in her delusion this won't apply to her P4P GFE from her stripper whore. LULZ!
Lulz
The chucklehead sitting at the keyboard?... not so much.
"I use the term loosely but she has admitted to having done extras and having sugar daddies....I think the fact that she can be open with me about it is a good start. Although of course its not something I wanted to hear... but I kinda think how different is it from being with a girl who just has a past of sleeping around. I don't think its something to judge her on. Mostly because I know why she did it. Ironically, as into money as she is, she's the cheapest girl I've been with. I don't think I've spent more than $100 going out with her. Usually we spend around $40 or so..."
LMFAO she's a whore. By doing extras and sugaring she exchanges acts of sex for money.
You are outright admitting it here. Luckily with you she's a cheap whore, making you a cheap trick.
LMFAO that you still try to deny you're not in a P4P GFE situation. And you act as if you're somehow different than a trick.
And you question how you can be delusional about it all.
LMFAO she's only a "holy grail" because she gives you the GFE you are so needy for.
Mamisan is tied up at the Donkey Ranch.
So TrollWarnBot will be out there soon to change you 25.
SJG
You've just got your head so far up your anus, that you can't understand simple English.
So no, IceyDodo, it's your hypocrisy and inability to admit that what you describe is just like being a PAYING TRICK BITCH that is the issue. LMFAO that you assume others can't relate to your perspective. Again you just distort and embellish it all, assuming it is even true.
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SJG
You're just a shit human and a lazy troll.
25, I feel sorry for you if you are like this in person. Not everyone is like you. Dismissing others' experiences coz they differ from your own is very infantile and closed minded. You throw tantrums coz you can't fathom someone dating stripper hoes. lulz
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
SJG
Radiation Levels of Sunken Russian Nuclear Submarine 100,000 Times Higher Than Normal
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^ LMAO that this isn't P4P
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
^ LULZ!
Besides the fact that you are still paying your stripper whore for GFE and are delusional that she's "going for" you other than providing a service.
If you can't get a real civie girl just as hot doing the same EXACT things as you do to get a stripper whore just as hot, then you're just an RIL trick bitch to the stripper whore in denial.
LMFAO all the things you preach about "dating" stripper whores are either painfully obvious or simply part of the P4P business.
And you still don't see your own delusions.
LULZ!
(And you still pretend to ignore me. ROFLMFAO!)
"I don't mind spending money in the club."
"If I fuck a stripper...... "
"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."
"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."
"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."
"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."
"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."
"But even picking up strippers from clubs in Vegas is pretty easy. Its not what a lot of guys make it out to be."
Note the phrase "Its not what a lot of guys make it out to be."
^ LMFAO who has made any statement besides herself that guys think it is hard to get GFE from a Vegas stripper whore? Answer: Nobody except IceyDodo!
Another example:
"Its a much better accomplishment than what you guys brag about....... scoring with hookers ROTFLMFAO"
^ LMAO I don't read many brag posts besides this one regarding scoring with a hooker.
IceyDodo clearly needs to contrast herself as much as possible from a trick. LMFAO it's as if she wants to stay in a fantasy that she's not.
LULZ!
^ LMFAO another example. I've never high fived anyone here for paying a hooker to fuck them. And I don't read many posts by others doing that as well
But for sure I read many posts by IceyDodo that are brag posts about GFE from stripper whores and at the same time telling others doing the same thing they are being tricks.
Which is all why she's a hypocritical trick bitch.
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For example she says she's not paying for GFE but yet she admits to paying stripper whores both money and drugs. Whether or not she actually is doing this IRL is less of my point than her actual statements being contradictory.
And putting down folks for doing things with strippers that one doesn't do themself is just trolling, pure and simple. This is what I see IceyDodo do much more than anyone with the exception of san_jose_creep.
The only way he can get a relationship is through paying and giving drugs to stripper whores. He can't even conceive of how to go about having a true relationship with a civie woman and pursue a stripper whore through those methods. His "methods" require so many things that are already a part of being a PL/trick and the business of stripping, including the shady parts, that he doesn't even know anything different.
For example he has equated giving a stripper whore money to get her nails done as something common to what normal guys do with a civie girl. I don't know about anyone else but I've had a few hot girlfriends and my wife is hot but I've never doled out money for them to do anything like that. He thinks this is normal. Most normal BF-GF relationships aren't based on doling out cash and drugs.
Then he's been saying to be dominant over them because that's what women want. That's so untrue from a universal standpoint. A lot of civie women just want a balanced relationship and sure maybe in bed they like to be submissive but not always.
Imagine all the things he recommends doing to be tried on civie girls, including strippers that want a civie relationship - they would fail in epic proportions.
And he doesn't even realize any of this. It's sad and pathetic.
So whether a troll persona or real person with the personality of said persona, she's a pathetic one.
Skibum, you're one of the biggest liars on here, oh wait you just omit facts...lulz
And talk about omitting facts. That's your MO besides making strawwoman arguments.
The fact is, an RIL trick bitch uses money for GFE from stripper whore.
The fact is, these are one and the same LMFAO.
"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."
^ LMFAO IceyDodo can't even fathom that she admits to paying for GFE from a stripper whore at the same time accusing others for paying a stripper whore for sex.
It's amusing in a pathetic way...lulz...