Misogyny as a gateway drug for right wing extremists
Icey
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More and more, we see misogyny as the gateway drug for extremists,” said Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/…
Neo-nazi murderer basically blamed his hatred of women and right wing extremism on being rejected by girls in 8th grade.....and onwards...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/…
Neo-nazi murderer basically blamed his hatred of women and right wing extremism on being rejected by girls in 8th grade.....and onwards...
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One of their more famous cases is suing the KKK in the early 1980s for harassing Vietnamese immigrant fishermen. I take it that according to you, that was a hate crime against the KKK
Shows where you stand.
That Manosphere and PUA Movement are an entry to Misogyny.
SJG
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Arrows held in the left instead of the right. Right holds the olive branch, to show that peace is the preferred course.
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" In 2018, a few months before Beierle stood in that studio, the Southern Poverty Law Center added a new category to its tracking list of hate movements around the country: male supremacy.
The term encompasses a worrying new array of assaults by men who view women as genetically inferior, inherently treacherous or unwilling to provide them with the sex and submission they see as their birthright. "
WTF
SJG, male supremacy is essentially code for white male supremacy. What these men are really bemoaning is the chipping away at white male privilege in the US. When they idealize the 1950s for example....they idealize the benefits and privileges afforded white men during a time of segregation and lack of basic rights for women. They believe that if only they were institutionally afforded the same control over others' autonomy, that they would get laid.... One of the main complaints on their sites is the loss of white women to perceived non white men.
WTF
Excellent article! Has extremely good analysis of this "manosphere".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/…
Here is a related article with a video:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/he-…
Talks about Elliot Rodger and the subsequent Incel Shooters.
Florida Yoga Studio shooter Scott Paul Beierle wrote a revenge retaliation novel while he was in high school, “Rejected Youth”
That sounds kind of like Elliot Rodger's manifesto. I have not been able to find any access to the work. Don't worry, most of the things I read are things I do not agree with.
When the Elliot Rodger incident happened and this idea of Incel was introduced, I was blow away. I guess I still do not really know what to make of it.
Icey, what do you have to say about this, a friend telling me that conservative non-feminist women are better, more accepting of men's sexual desires?
https://thetransformedwife.com/why-do-me…
And then the feminist opposing examples:
https://jezebel.com/shockingly-trite-sex…
https://everydayfeminism.com/2013/06/mal…
Anybody have any comments?
SJG
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Antonin Artaud / David A. Shafer (2016)
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Antonin Artaud and the Theatre of Cruelty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK_vZuLY…
I don't mean it mean, but today we're going to be cruel. It's the fun-loving Theatre of Cruelty, which was pioneered by the genius Antonin Artaud in France during the inter-war period in twentieth century. The Theatre of Cruelty was meant to force an audience into looking at the ridiculous illusions of their bourgeois lives. Is it entertaining? Not always. Was it hugely influential? Absolutely.
SJG
Well for one thing, the Conservative Women, they are topping from the bottom. Their are going to be a whole list of assumptions and non-negotiables which they expect.
Where as with the Feminists, everything is going to be on the table, out in the open. Maybe sometimes they sound unreasonable, but that does not mean that they will hold to their positions. They are not in this world just to make marriage work. And marriage, in my considered opinion, sucks.
But with these Conservative Christian Women, nothing is on the table. Everything is prescribed by existing social norms and nostalgia for an imagined past.
SJG
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As the push for further equality progresses, White America is realizing that equality isn't making everyone "white" and pushing white middle class mores on them. Addressing disadvantage means addressing unearned privilege... and that makes people combative. It makes them feel attacked. This is especially true for White males, who have historically been the most privileged group in the US.
I've dated conservative women before and would never do it again. It was hell. She would have sex with me but associated it with shame and guilt and was the most judgmental person ever....Threw extreme fits when everything wasn't on her terms.
And I don't know the bitching or complaints about feminists... Some of the sexiest women I've had sex with were Chicana and Middle Eastern activists. They were carefree and had no hangups, it was what it was and they accepted me for me, and respected me more as a man than non feminist women.
And yeah, the conservative nostalgia for say the 1950s is ridiculous.... They claim it was a time of stability and values. What values? Segregation? Lynchings? Lack of rights for women? A culture that shamed anyone who wasn't a conformist?
https://thefederalist.com/2016/09/08/12-…
Republicans have more sex
https://www.bustle.com/p/republicans-are…
Shit even Vice a total left rag says it
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/paeek…
Your lefty projection is embarrassing, SJG and Icey BTFO by Conservative Women, haha
SJG
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I agree with what IceyLoco posted above. He wrote, "The ideological battle in Washington is basically a battle for the future course of the country."
Yes of course, our national politics are identity battles. A great deal was accomplished in the 60's and 70's, Civil Rights, Anti-War, Women's Liberation, War on Poverty, Gay Liberation.
But Reagan and G. W. Bush were a huge backlash, and then Trump is coming from out of this world.
So their is a great deal of anxiety, being felt by whites. Whites are starting to feel some of the anxiety which minority groups have always felt.
And so this idea about some preference for Conservative Women, its really almost already a kind of misogyny already.
Still, when we talk about the guy who went on the shooting rampage at the Florida Yoga Studio, what can we say about him? I am surprised at the number of incidents where he got in trouble with women, and got fired or banished from somewhere, and the impact these must have had on his life, like Florida State Univ.
How could one reach out to such a person? And then I guess the same goes for a younger man who on the surface looked diffrent, Elliot Rodger.
Some of it is the Right Wing Media, this manosphere in these cases, and how the Internet supports such.
But as others have pointed out, this like the National Rifle Association stuff comes directly from the Republican Party and its doctrines.
For me, probably the biggest surprise about TUSCL, has been just how clear it is that a sizable population segment is being influenced by this Right Wing Nonsense world view.
Rodger and this Florida shooter, they went suicidal. If you could have gotten to them somehow, they could have been nice people.
SJG
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Camus and The French Resistance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7dHEm-z…
SJG
A more educated populace would really help.
SJG
De-skilling of jobs is a major factor.
And this board is saturated with people on the Right showing off their anti-intellectual attitudes.
In my organization it will not be like that at all.
I have been able to avoid such problems myself in the work place only because I am tough and arrogant, and I have been able to get myself into some special spots. But this does not mean that I am any more entitled than anyone else to a decent living and a dignified work environment.
SJG
Alternative Educations
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…
George W. Bush was like this. But the one which really shocked me was G. H. W. Bush in 1988.
SJG
Are female sexuality and desire misunderstood? Do women misunderstand men's sexuality?
So some are saying that it is better for a man to be with conservative women:
https://thetransformedwife.com/why-do-me…
And then also offered is this counter example of the feminist women:
https://jezebel.com/shockingly-trite-sex…
https://everydayfeminism.com/2013/06/mal…
What do people think?
Americans Are Under-educated
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…
Alternative Educations
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…
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