HK in Tijuana - Do you balance your mileage from a girl....say she does not kiss

tbot1102;

I will play along;

My “strategy” to have sex with a woman (civvies included) is to make her feel desired, tell her and show her how much she turns me on (she has to, otherwise I would not been doing her).

I try to make her fell comfortable, safe, relaxed; make her laugh; make her happy in the moments if possible.

Then I try to do everything I believe will make her have an orgasm, and pay attention to her reactions and directions/requests.
Once when fingering one girl with my middle finger she asked me to “do two fingers please”.

I always keep in mind that every sexual encounter is unique, different it doesn’t matter if is the same girl in the same place at the same time of the day.

“No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.”
~ Heraclitus

I also keep in mind that:
“Women don’t have lower sexuality than men. What they have are more variable patterns”

So in resume make her orgasm a couple of times, using what works for her in that moment, kissing, DFK, kissing caressing, massaging her body, fingering her trying to find her G spot, DATY (if I feel safe and comfortable with it) and she likes it, knocking at the back door if they ask me to (some girls are really into it).

After she has at least two orgasms then is my turn, again if she likes to blow me is OK with me, and then I try a couple of basic positions missionary, doggy and ankles in my shoulders while going deep and kissing her if she is flexible and comfortable with that.

I try to make every new sexual encounter the best of my life.

I always quote Tyron Leinster of Game of thrones if they as me what do I want:

“I want you to (fuck me)/( make love with me) like it's my last night in this world.”

Please don’t quote on anything.

I always got the impression girls at TJ were pretty open to DFKing. In that case I wouldn't ever go arriba unless a girl DFKed me in the front room.

No strategy needed.

I enjoy her company and intimicacy, though during the interview process I ask what she does not like (quite the buzz kill to hear "no" during the session).

Arriba, I let her take the lead (she is a professional) but I want her warmed up too, so I take the reigns and make sure I finish.

It would be great if she enjoyed it but it's my first time with a stranger who I'm P4P for 30 minutes I'm not too disappointed if she doesn't.

for myself with girls, DATYing them is always a good move. But want DFKing too. Want to make it all into a well orchestrated event, and one which can take quite a while too.

Never been to TJ, but seems like it is set up to make things go as good as possible.

SJG

I agree that we have to make it fun and comfortable for the girls. So I too ensure that there is full consent before I do anything. This is not a discussion on how advisable it is to engage in any kind of acts with girls. And if you are weighing the risks of everything, why even venture out of your home to face high probability of being killed in an car (if flying a Boeing 737 Max, count air travel too) accident or by a random crime in (dangerous!) Mexico.....if we looked up the risks of every small act, we won’t be doing much in our lives.

If you're paying a hooker, do what you paid for....Im sure you're not her first.

If its just with a girl, do whatever comes naturally and make it about making her feel wanted, sexy, comfortable

The more natural and open you can be with the girl, the better. The more civvilian like you can be with her the better.

Front room makeout session makes all the difference.

SJG

@tbot1102, I posted two HK reviews in January regarding DATY.
It's my passion, more so than fucking or even getting blown. Always make it clear before you go up that you want DATY. I did, set the price, and they were glorious experiences. Didn't matter to me who was there before me. Fuck that shit, Live a little.
As far as DFK, or any kissing, I've never asked, but I might in a future visit. The times I've kissed HK gals, it was always them leading, not me. I know this isn't something all ladies do, so I never assume and try to kiss them. Could lead to awkward mood-dampening moments. My lack of aggressiveness has actually led to several gals kissing me, on the floor in the club and upstairs.

I have enjoyed DATY from almost every single girl that I have encountered.

kissing seems to be more of a challenge and I usually let her initiate that.

JAprufrock - You may try kissing next time you are in town. The only thing with kissing (to say nothing of DFK) is that you may not find a 'great kisser'. But you won't find out until you try. In all my visits, I have had only one girl who wouldn't let me get close to her face (last review about Sophie). Otherwise, you can at the minimum get away with just a peck on the lips. If I sense that a girl is not up for kissing (here I have to mention that I am not good at negotiating in advance...also something that I really don't even like), then I try to get some other fun like DATY, FIV, sucking on breasts et al. That was my whole point of starting this discussion. Like you, even I am big fan of DATY.....though all its accompanying risks do bother me to some extent.

MisterWonderful - I am glad I am not alone on this.....thank you for validating me!

I've encountered all types of bargirls at HK which has made it to say at the very least interesting:

One allowed me to play with her boobs but no feeding.

One only allowed three positions.

Germaphobes, where DATY was off the table.

One who didn't want any ass slapping or aggressive ass grabbing (and she had a big ass)

So I started asking what they don't like before we go arriba and I'm surprised with how some behave when you deviate from the standard CBJ, CG, Mish, and K9.

Seems to me if you want a particular service/experience, you either "go with your gut feeling" when interacting with her in the club and hope it turns out as you'd like, or let her know your expectations/desires upfront b/f committing arriba - I prefer the latter but for some PLs that "ruins/diminishes the fantasy"

@Papi I think it's a mistake at HK to take a lady up not knowing what she will and won't do. I did that my first time and it was a disaster. The bitch wouldn't let me play with her pussy or tits. Fuck that. I learned my lesson and have since spelled out every detail of what I'm seeking before going arriba and that's worked out great. If she's not into it, that's OK. Just move on to one of the other 100-plus gals there. The options are amazing.

@japrufrock i agree. Also i have found if they dont warm up to you during ficha they suck in arriva

I say quero besarte todo and if they say no no arriba

During a ficha i will say quero besarte and alot of times they will kiss you in front room.

One time a bargirl told me kissing in the front (main room) is bad for business, maybe she didn't want to kiss me, but she more than made up for it arriba.

If you can make a front room makeout session go, it really will improve what happens in the back room. All the more important if you want to be spending more time with her and seeing her regularly.

SJG

I think I will try a front room make out session next time. I did it only once in the privacy of the Miami club (early Sunday evening) ....but the girl was only a 6. No wonder she gave me the works. In the dim lighting and the slim pickings, I let my guard down.

When you say Miami Club, where is that? Do you mean the Miami VIP Room of Tijuana's Hong Kong Bar? I would be interested to know more about that.

SJG

^^^^The Miami Club is on the first floor, to the right if you walk in the front entrance. I've been in there several times because they have private lap dance booths ($11, one per day with VIP card). There's a main area, with a bar, several lounges, and I think a stripper pole. I'm not sure what the purpose of it is and what goes on in there. I basically walked through, in and out, each time without stopping to peruse (they might not let you hang around). I guess it's for VIPs, groups, to brings ladies for a more private environment. That's not me.I want to be near the girls who are getting down and dirty in the shaving cream/lesbian/dildo shows.
@SJG, I will investigate this phenomenon that is the Miami Room the next time I'm just, just for you. I'll even drop your name, if that's OK. You might get you special treatment during your first visit there.

The Miami Lounge is OK for anybody to hang out with or without a bargirl.

The Miami VIP Room is the private room overlooking the lounge, I haven't been there since the remodel but I thought it was not worth the money.

Maybe @JAprufrock will rent it for the TUSCLer meet at HK to gather Intel for SJG.

Thanks JAprufrock and Cristobal for the info.

The impression I get is that maybe in some of these rooms you can be putting on a FS show, similar to a swingers club.

That should make a big impression on the girl.

SJG

Is this the Miami Room on the first floor?

http://hktijuana.com/assets/img/main/hk-…

Bring a girl in there from the outside? Things can for further, FS?

SJG

Yes that is the Miami room 1st floor. On the extreme right side of the picture a little above the middle is a little bar. Every time I claimed my free drink that you get every 12 hours with the VIP card I was sent there to claim it. The Miami room didn't look interesting at any time I was there.

Like JAprufrock stated, you also enter this room to do your half off lap dances with a chica. Those rooms with the frosted glass doors are where you get them.

There wouldn't be any FS show though. You cant see through the glass. Unless you mean FS right out in the open in that room. I think misterwonderful spoke of a time where he made that happen, but I bet he'd say the chances of that happening again are extremely rare.

^^^^^^ Thanks.

Some of the stuff on the HK web site, and seen in postings various places, suggests that anything can go in some of these communal VIP areas.

As I see it, one will have one chance to do that with a girl, after that it is more seeing her outside the zona. So it could be a good opportunity to take with her.

SJG