Disconnect explained
skibum609
Massachusetts
When Progressives see Trump they see a rich, entitled white guy. I see a liar and a cheat. When Progressives see Obama they see a black, male progressive. I see a liar and a cheat. When Progressives see Elizabeth Warren they see a native american, female, progressiove. I see a liar and a cheat. Comprende maricons?
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Fuck them. They intend to smother & eliminate free speech, the first amendment (among many others btw), thinking for oneself, personal liberties & freedoms and want each of us to conform to their whackjob agenda and be dependent entirely on them. No way. Fuck them and fuck that.
The ONLY honest ones I've ever considered were jfk, rfk, Ron Paul, Chuck Hagel & Trey Gowdy.
That's it. Out of ALL of them.
Take your foot off his head
Not enough concrete
A dam good start.
The "progressives" absolutely don't want to smother & eliminate bigotry. They're the ones stoking racial tensions & shoving identity politics in everyone's faces, for fuck's sake.
My version of free speech is essentially being able to say whatever the fuck you want. It's up to the speaker to determine when, where and even IF whatever it is possibly spoken should or shouldn't be. Outlets that we used to never think were in jeopardy such as entertainment programming and especially stand-up comedy is dying because of PC bullshit.
Painting this with a broad brush as blanket racism is lazy and unimaginative on your part as well as the part of shitstain "progressives".
Funny thing is, the government protects your "freedom of speech" while the private sector does not. You can say as you please in a public space, you can't do so in a private space or in private employment without fear of retribution. Hence why people like you spout your nonsense in a semi anonymous way online.
The term progressive as I understand it came about because no one for a period of time wanted to be known as a liberal.
From what I have observed on discussion boards in cyberland most of the progressive/liberal posters are the ones you can not have a logical conversation with no matter the topic or time line of which something occurred.
Although I do not agree with everything Trump has said and done there is merit to what he meant when he wanted to clean out the swamp and there is merit to believing the swamp will do anything and everything to hold on to what they feel is theirs.
In the end Arnold wasn't a bad Governor of California. The man is clearly in love with himself, but also could have made way more money not being governor and wanted to try to make California a better place in his eyes.
If you really opposed hate speech laws on an ethical note for example, you'd oppose them on the basis that it drives hate groups underground perhaps. But your argument is that you agree with such hate speech so it should be allowed. Big difference.
In some cases it is positive change, but usually it just seems like they want to do away with anything that has helped make this country great.
As I asked someone in 2008 am I a progressive because I change my underwear everyday? The concept of change should be tied to other concepts such as improved efficiency or increased revenue, or more economical ( which doesn't seem to apply to the federal government)
Progressives see all of this too, but we decline to accept it, seeing it all as oppression, and the people who go along with it as being idiots.
SJG
Ocasio-Cortez hopes to 'break this fourth wall' by responding to 'bad-faith attacks'
https://news.yahoo.com/ocasio-cortez-hop…
If it should read Dylan Stableford is a senior yahoo......I place this as example one of when I talk about media bias....the problem is when some guy comes along and drinks down this Koolaid as news because the guy is a Princeton Grad and four of his friends give him a trophy.
Don't you agree that Conservatives seem to judge people by their compliance with rules, which seem to originate in the pedagogy of the middle-class family?
SJG
SJG
Years ago, we got stuck with Obamacare to improve healthcare access. Now they want universal single payer because Obamacare doesn't work.
Climate change is a critical problem in their eyes, but yet they live their lives in hypocrisy regarding their own footprint.
They like to tax the wealthy "their fair share", even though something like 48% of taxpayers pay 0 federal income tax.
It is very obvious the progressive views/actions of California have ruined that state, as wealth leaves and is replaced by poverty.
They want income for all for basic subsistence. Ignoring the fact that we have had income subsidies (welfare, SNAP, Section 8 etc.) for years, with the problem getting worse, not better. Throwing more money at people is not the answer.
With all of the progressive proposals, you never hear how they are going to be implemented and paid for.
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You really are a pain in the ass, @Warrenboy. When you're confronted with getting your own facts straight, you change the subject. When you're confronted with changing the subject, you claim it's nitpicking. When you're losing a more important argument, you disappear. I'd rate your level of "logic" and objectivity on a par with @Mark94 -- only Mark is less annoying and condescending.
...you're welcome.
Over the years as I found myself drifting away from the democratic party into independent status one of the things that always struck me funny about the call to arms for higher taxes is that the details became less and less definitive. And then I realized why. In the past when an increase was passed to support XYZ did you ever find that it either 1) solved the problem or 2) after the stated time of the needed increase the taxes ever reverted back to the lower level.
As for an direct answer to RA--there is a difference between getting ones facts straight and simply adding a word to Nobel. And how many times to you need for me to acknowledge it? My facts and comments are consistent. I don't recall losing an argument. What I do recall is simply shrugging my shoulders and realizing that everyone with an open mind ( which excludes you when it comes to politics) understood my point. Why waste more time and effort when it's like trying to herd cats?
As for disappearing I do tend to log on and then not come back to the board for hours or even a day at a time. I wouldn't consider it disappearing as much as having a life.
I feel I am pretty level headed, even in dealing with you when your shorts are in wad and causing a rise in your voice to come through on your typed responses.......hopefully I crossed all my "t"s at the correct height....and I don't have any upside periods in my response.
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And if I wanted to be a lazy welfare rat, I would not have stripped to pay for a degree. But I guess if I'm flying in jets here and there and getting cars bought for me, you can call my rich boyfriend my sponsor.
Skibum "lazy welfare rats" Do you use that language with your clients? You know, people suing to drain their spouse's resources that they feel entitled to....
SJG
REP. NANETTE BARRAGÁN (D) CA, questioning Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, calling her a liar.
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/8/lo…
Stones, Gimme Shelter, Atlantic City 1989, early Lisa Fischer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jARNrKiW…
Wicked Lady
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtRccgPd…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDg9ljov…
Title Track, favorite:
https://youtu.be/ZtRccgPd8uU?t=1755